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Topic: Another Trivia Question!

Graham Watt

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Here's a good one. What is actor David McCallum's connection to film music? I'll wait a while and if nobody is getting close I'll start posting hints. But knowing you guys and gals, somebody will probably give the right answer in about two minutes!
posted 07-02-2000 09:09 AM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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Yes...I believe he wrote a song for movie. Do I get partial credit, even though I forget the title?Shaun
NP---In The Garden Under The Tree
posted 07-02-2000 10:44 AM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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Shaun, I'll give you a half mark for telling me that, because I didn't know it. So that's obviously not the connection I was thinking about.Here's a clue. It has to do with David McCallum's FATHER.
posted 07-02-2000 02:30 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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David McCallum's father performed the violin solos on Goldsmith's THE BLUE MAX, when Goldsmith's MAN FROM UNCLE theme was gaining worldwide popularity. The elder McCallum said to Goldsmith, "Tell him the auld man's got some fire left in him!" (Depending on which version of the story one subscribes to.)
posted 07-02-2000 04:13 PM PT (US) 
Chris Kinsinger

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NOBODY BEATS THE ROCCO!
posted 07-02-2000 05:26 PM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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Dangit! I was so proud of myself there for a second! Thanks, Rocco, for proving once again that you are superior in knowledge to me.Shaun
posted 07-02-2000 07:50 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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I thought EVERYBODY knew that story. Oh well, now we all do.Shaun, you've MET me ... as it is fully obvious just by looking at me, I am superior to each single human being in any and all respects, whoever they may be. I thought you had already absorbed that simple fact. God knows I could not be bothered to explain it to you. Perhaps you are not as bright as I hoped. Will you be running off some more CDRs for me before you have become irrelevant? (I have said too much already ...) (and now I have posted it) (perhaps I'm not quite as smart as I think) (oh now I've done it)
Hmm, we haven't played the trivia game in a while ... let me see ... How many pianos did Maurice Jarre use on IS PARIS BURNING? (I know that's a ridiculous question, but I really can't think of anything better. I've pretty much played out my pockets of trivia on other, identical threads. Come on, I've even given this answer away before! Richard Rodney Bennett told us the answer! Well, not personally, but I quoted him!)
In case that's too esoteric, I'll reprise a much older question that many of you will remember, and probably many will not: On what movie did Maurice Jarre replace Jerry Goldsmith? (Yes, we know Goldsmith replaced Jarre on FIRST KNIGHT; don't mix-and-match.)
NP: QB VII (Goldsmith via Intrada) (actually this disc came from Amazon, but it IS official, as is the PATCH OF BLUE disc that came in the same shipment, though not the same package ... why? who cares, here they are.) (I haven't heard QB VII in a million years -- well, more than ten -- it's just as beautiful as I ever remembered.)
posted 07-02-2000 08:11 PM PT (US) 
Lonely Guy
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Hey HR!!
I KNOW,I KNOW!!!
Goldsmith replaced Jarre on The River Wild!!
YIPPEEEEEEE!
posted 07-02-2000 09:17 PM PT (US) 
Lonely Guy
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WHOOPS!!!
I just reread what the question is!! I thought it read What movie did Goldsmith replace JARRE? I WAS right, though about The River Wild. I'm not TOTALLY worthless
!
posted 07-02-2000 09:19 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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You're not even a little bit worthless, Jim. I am editing the message.That might sound backhanded, mightn't it? I mean you're a good fellow, not someone so worthless that you're not even worth "a little bit" of whatever consideration. (Hence I came back to edit a second time. I wonder if it will go through.)
[This message has been edited by H Rocco (edited 02 July 2000).]
posted 07-02-2000 09:20 PM PT (US) 
Lou Goldberg

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Isn't the piano # for 'Is Paris Burning?' 12? You've got me stumpted on the Jarre replaces Goldsmith question.
posted 07-02-2000 11:59 PM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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H. Rocco, you amaze me! But here's something you DIDN'T KNOW!-My dad was born and brought up next door to the McCallums. My gran always told me that no one could get much sleep with all that screechimg coming through the walls.
posted 07-03-2000 04:49 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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No way I COULDA known that, I guess ...Here's something I don't know: Was the elder McCallum a regular with the National Philharmonic? (I'm not certain whether THE BLUE MAX was done with the National, or whether the National even existed as such at the time. It's been Goldsmith's traditional favorite for so long, though.)
The Maurice Jarre piano question: I thought it was TEN pianos, but this is second or even third-hand knowledge, through an extremely acerbic late-1970s interview with Richard Rodney Bennett published in SOUNDTRACK! magazine.
Come on now, the Jarre-replacing-Goldsmith question is pretty easy. A further hint: Goldsmith did THE SAND PEBBLES instead.
Or would you rather answer the question of who Goldsmith replaced on THE SAND PEBBLES? (Nobody's score got thrown out in these cases, it was just a case of shifting assignments.)
posted 07-03-2000 09:50 AM PT (US) 
Hard Target
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Rocco I think I have the answer. Would it be Grand Prix for John Frankenheimer.
posted 07-03-2000 11:41 AM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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H. Rocco,David McCallum Sr. Concertmaster violinist with The Royal Philharmonic, The London Philharmonic, Sir Thomas Beecham's Symphony Orchestra, and The Scottish National Orchestra.
Also appeared on screen as "the blind fiddler" in the 1950 Alec Guinness film of the J.B. Priestley story "Last Holiday."
But I am not clever at all. I had to look up that information, instead of just "knowing" it.
Has anyone got the CD which pairs Goldsmith's The Chairman with Ransom (I think it's these)? Apparently there's something in the liner notes about Sidney Sax gathering together the cream of Britain's session musicians for the recordings, including David McCallum. Sidney's with the National, no?
posted 07-03-2000 12:37 PM PT (US) 
Hard Target
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Graham you are clearly right because in the CD liner notes it says and I quote "As Pinewood has no scoring stage, it was decided to record teh music at the Westrex Recording Studios within the Sheperton Studio complex, and so Goldsmith returned to the scene of one of his greatest triumphs, where some years earlier he had recorded his score for The Blue Max. The cream of London's sessions musicians were brought together by Sidney Sax for these sessions, spread over at three day period in March 1969. They included David McCallum, who played for Jerry on The Blue Max (the mock Strauss waltz which everyone remembers) and John Leach one of the world's experts on ethinic instruments and it is Mr.Leach you hear playing the Yang Chin, a Chinese dulcimer over the opening credits."Well Rocco, I am right bout Goldsmith leaving Grand Prix?
posted 07-03-2000 02:42 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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You're right, Mr. Target. GRAND PRIX indeed.And thank you very much, Mr. Watt, for your additional info.
Sydney Sax is/was the "leader" of the National. I don't know for certain what that comprises.
Sax was credited with conducting WILD ROVERS, but in fact Goldsmith had done that job ... it was considered contractually prudent to say that Sax had done it. (Not that Sax COULDN'T have done it, it was just a money thing.)
I have the CHAIRMAN/RANSOM disc. CHAIRMAN is one of my least favorite Goldsmith scores -- I don't mean it sucks, it just doesn't have anything that really grabs me -- but the sound is decent. RANSOM is terrific, but the sound is wretched. You can't always get what you want, I suppose.
NP: A PATCH OF BLUE (Goldsmith via Intrada)
posted 07-03-2000 06:24 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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'ey, nobody said who Goldsmith replaced on THE SAND PEBBLES. (Too easy to bother with, perhaps. It wasn't a replacement score, if you're wondering.)
posted 07-03-2000 11:08 PM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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I'm just guessing, Rocco, so be gentle. Was it David Amram?Shaun
posted 07-04-2000 04:30 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Not a bad guess, but, no, not David Amram.
posted 07-05-2000 01:37 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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I can't believe nobody remembers this. This was posted on at least one other trivia thread!Hint: he never won an Oscar. (Perhaps this isn't a fair clue, but TECHNICALLy he never "WON" an Oscar.) (That MUST give it away.)
NP: they're remodeling the house next door.
posted 07-05-2000 11:26 AM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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ALEX NORTH! Or maybe not.
posted 07-05-2000 02:06 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Alex North indeed! North also got Goldsmith one other job right before that. What was it?
posted 07-05-2000 02:49 PM PT (US) 
Hard Target
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I'm guessing it would be A Patch of Blue
posted 07-05-2000 10:43 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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(mmm) perhaps so, but that's not the one I was thinking about ...
posted 07-05-2000 11:03 PM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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Was it to do "The Artist Who Did Not Want To Paint", used in the prologue documentary to The Agony And The Ecstasy? Now I really AM guessing!And if I'm not right, let me just take the opportunity to say that the Goldsmith score, all twelve and a half minutes of it, is absolutely sublime. As is North's score for the main movie.
The Sand Pebbles with an Alex North score? I can imagine that, and it would have been great, but what Goldsmith did was incredible, one of his greatest (along with The Artist Who Did Not Want To Paint).
Time to go and listen to some more Goldsmith!
posted 07-06-2000 02:27 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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"The Artist," indeed. Good one, Mr. Watt. Were you a contributor to the old Goldsmith fanzine in England? I seem to remember your name. (It later turned into more of an all-purpose film music zine, but I was there at the very beginning, and read it for years, although I wrote nothing for it. That's where I read the McCallum anecdote above, in fact.)NP: CHINATOWN
posted 07-06-2000 02:31 PM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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H Rocco,Wow, right again? That makes twice in ten years! Anyway, to answer your question, I've been a member of "Legend" (The Goldsmith Film Music Society) since about 95. I don't know if that's when it was still a fanzine, because it still looks a bit like one (no offence to those who run it, because they've got day jobs, etc). I've contributed a few CD reviews over the last few years, plus an ill-informed piece on Gil Melle ("researched" before I had a computer), but I've been generally low-key.
Anyway, enough of me: Goldsmith's the man! (and North, and Williams, and Rozsa, and Herrmann, and Waxman, and Newman, and Friedhofer, and Duning, and...and Shire, and Mancini, and Grusin, and Melle, and Schifrin, and...God, aren't lists boring?)
posted 07-06-2000 02:55 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
