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Topic: Jerry Goldsmith

PeterK

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Goldsmithfan,Goldsmith worked on Small Soldiers and Gremlins for only one reason - he has a very fruitful collaboration with director Joe Dante. Together, they've made some pretty funny films, the 'burbs. Personally, I have a feeling Jerry likes to work with Dante - it's a lot of fun to make movies with your friends!
PeterK
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posted 01-14-2000 06:58 PM PT (US) 
Scott

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Dr Evil,
as far as I'm concerned: 30min cds suck but if that's all there is its better than nothing. I don't mind CDR's although I'd prefer the originals, but if nothing else is available it's better than not being able to enjoy the music at all.
Scottposted 01-14-2000 09:05 PM PT (US) 
PeterD

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Hello, fellow Goldsmith fans. . .I'm a newcomer here myself -- one of those FSM people -- with a kind of obscure Goldsmith question I'm hoping someone can answer for me. Actually, two questions, but here's the obscure one first:
I was reading through the IMDb listing on Goldsmith today and was surprised to see the notation that he was "sometimes credited as" Michael Hennagin. Does anyone know what this is all about???
And my second question: Has anyone gotten the new FSM "Rio Conchos" CD yet, and if so, is it worth buying if one already has the Intrada recording (as most of us probably do)? Is the "Drag Race" cue as good as Lukas says it is? Any opinions would be welcome. Thanks! (I'm trying to rationalize buying this, but I've already spent $29 this month on the new, improved "Lonely Are the Brave" bootleg. . .)
posted 01-15-2000 07:43 PM PT (US) 
Scott

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Well, Peter D.
first welcome.Your questions are all good especially the first one. I am completely stomped.
Scott
posted 01-15-2000 09:00 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Peter D,
Odd, I was perusing the Goldsmith section today myself, and for the first time noticed that "Hennigan" thing. It wasn't there before (and I've contributed to that filmography, so I'd remember).
It seems a trifle spurious to me. I've NEVER heard of it, and I ALSO know that when the "Hennigan-scored" BLACK SADDLE was paraphrased on an LP in the early 60s ("Dick Powell Presents"), it was credited to Goldsmith.
But was it really? I've never seen the album up close -- but no prior film/discography has ever specified that Goldsmith is credited as HENNIGAN.
Ditto the alleged Hennigan credit for VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA -- I don't have the "Jonah and the Whale" CD, but if this were the case, shouldn't the liner notes have mentioned Hennigan, and shouldn't there have been a lot more Q&A amongst us internet people before now??
Your guess is as good as mine here.
posted 01-16-2000 02:44 PM PT (US) 
John C Winfrey

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Many composers have recognized his influence and have said so. Chris Young is one of them and even had a cue title Jerry's Gold myth in his Power score. Horner and many others were influenced by him. From 1962-1988 he was the most varied and most interesting active composer. Only Bernstein and John Williams were in same class during those years for overall output. Since 1988, I have noticed that his music doesn't seem to have the punch it did before, but we all change and he's writing to fit the film. He doesn't write it to please us, you know. Take care, John.
posted 01-17-2000 11:59 AM PT (US) 
goldsmithfan

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Ok, He does make those films better, I'll admit it. In Star Trek the Motion Picture, he used a new instrument (new in 1979) called the blaster beam. Does anyone have a picture of it that they could send me?
posted 01-18-2000 08:02 AM PT (US) 
Scott

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Hey,Goldsmithfan,
the blaster beam wasn't new at the time. 'ts been around for awhile.Scott
Sorry, ain't got no picture.
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posted 01-18-2000 11:47 AM PT (US) 
goldsmithfan

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It was new in 1979. He used it for the first time. You will agree that it was a pretty interesting sound.
posted 01-18-2000 01:49 PM PT (US) 
goldsmithfan

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Hey, this is for everyone. I have a cd made in 1997 called FRONTIERS. It's a collection of Jerry Goldsmith's work from several sci-fi films that he has scored. Does anyone else have this cd?
posted 01-18-2000 02:59 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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I think Leonard Rosenman was the first to use the Blaster Beam for a movie, in his 1978 score to LORD OF THE RINGS (you hear it mostly in "Helm's Deep"). He used it again for his 1979 score to PROPHECY, mainly under monster-attack sequences towards the finale.Besides STAR TREK, the Blaster Beam was also used in the 1979 scores to THE BLACK HOLE (John Barry) and especially METEOR (Laurence Rosenthal).
The instrument was created by Craig Hundley, a budding musician who had been a child actor -- had, in fact, played Captain Kirk's nephew on the original STAR TREK series.
Hundley used the Blaster Beam extensively throughout his own score to ALLIGATOR (1980) -- a soundtrack which also extensively interpolated bits from Jerry Goldsmith's TWILIGHT ZONE episode score "The Invaders."
Hundley later changed his name to Craig Huxley and founded the label Sonic Atmospheres, which was devoted primarily to his own music, but also issued a couple of movie soundtracks, most famously DREAMSCAPE (Maurice Jarre, all-electronic) and David Shire's symphonic masterpiece RETURN TO OZ.
I believe he did a whole album of experimental Blaster Beam music, but I've never been fortunate enough to hear it. What became of the Blaster Beam since, I'm afraid I don't know.
posted 01-18-2000 05:09 PM PT (US) 
Scott

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Goldsmithfan,
I got the cd also. Pretty tight release.scott
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posted 01-19-2000 11:44 AM PT (US) 
goldsmithfan

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Scott,
What's your favorite track on that?
posted 01-19-2000 02:12 PM PT (US) 
goldsmithfan

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Also, Scott, or anyone,
On the STAR TREK: INSURRECTION soundtrack, it sounds like the same orchestra as the FRONTIERS collection. Did he use the Scottish Royal Orchestra for both?
posted 01-19-2000 02:17 PM PT (US) 
Scott

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Goldsmithfan,
wow, that's a tough one. Which track is my favorite. Without having the cd in front of me it has to be one of the tracks for which I do not own a cd yet. Let me get back to you on that one.As far as the Royal Scottish Orchestra is concerned, I doubt it very seriously that he used the same orchestra. In fact I am almost sure he used freelance musicians. In other words musicians from different orchestras. Gotta check the cd.
Scott
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posted 01-20-2000 07:39 AM PT (US) 
goldsmithfan

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Ok, Scott. Thanks
Another Star Trek music question. I have a cd called STAR TREK: THE FIRST 30 YEARS. It was recorded by the London Pops. On the STAR TREK SUIT arranged by Jerry Goldsmith, and all of the music that the London Pops recorded on that cd, are at a slower tempo than the actual track from the actual soundtrack. They also use synthesizers as the orchestra, basically, except on the STAR TREK SUIT. Do you know why they do it slower?
posted 01-20-2000 08:31 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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I was pretty sure that INSURRECTION was recorded with a pick-up orchestra (musicians from all over the city) in Los Angeles. All union, of course.
posted 01-20-2000 01:19 PM PT (US) 
goldsmithfan

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Well, It must have been the size of the recording studio on both cd's that made the sound.
posted 01-21-2000 09:05 AM PT (US) 
goldsmithfan

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Come on, people, post messages!
posted 01-25-2000 06:02 AM PT (US) 
Scott

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Sorry Goldsmithfan,
I was kinda tight up with other business, anyway.My favorite track on the Frontier cd is porbably the Logan's Run one (simply because I don't have the original one).
Why is the tempo slower on the special cd you have. It probably has to do with the conductor. Very rarely do I detect re-recordings in the same tempo as in the original recordings. Even on the Frontier album you can detect minor changes. And gosh, go to a concert and things usually really change.
Hope this helped.
Scottposted 01-25-2000 07:50 PM PT (US) 
goldsmithfan

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That makes sense. I don't know why I didn't think of it before! Thanks
posted 01-26-2000 09:37 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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Fav. track on the Frontiers would probably be the Twilight Zone overture. The first theme for the Spielberg bit is wonderful, & I just love the Terror at 20000 feet (or whatever) section - kind of a precursor to Gremlins - which is particularly noticable in this recording, I think.np Stargate
posted 01-26-2000 09:46 AM PT (US) 
goldsmithfan

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Hey, I like that one too. Come on, people, POST MESSEGES.
posted 02-03-2000 01:56 PM PT (US) 
goldsmithfan

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Has anyone seen Jerry Goldsmith perform live, like, at a benefit, or a tribute to him?
posted 02-09-2000 09:40 AM PT (US) 
Scott

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goldsmithfan,yes, I have. I saw him last year at the Hollywood Bowl. It was awsome. Even got to meet him in person and get his John Hankock.
Scott
posted 02-09-2000 12:29 PM PT (US) 
Pete M

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I saw him do a concert here in Edinburgh last February with the RSNO. It was wonderful. He's also doing two concerts later this year in London with the LSO. I certainly hope to attend.np The Mummy
posted 02-11-2000 08:01 AM PT (US) 
goldsmithfan

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Does anyone know if he'll be in Texas anytime soon?
posted 02-11-2000 08:28 AM PT (US) 
Scott

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Texas?
Where is Texas?Scott
posted 02-14-2000 08:53 AM PT (US) 
goldsmithfan

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The state of Texas in the United States.
posted 02-15-2000 06:12 AM PT (US) 
Scott

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Texas is part of the US?
Wow, would have never guessed.
ScottNP: Phantasie Es-Dur/ Phantasy E flat major
posted 02-15-2000 10:45 AM PT (US) 
Tom Scofield
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Goldsmith often comes here to Kansas City where he works with the student orchestra at UMKC (University of Missouri, Kansas City). Maybe he comes here as a tribute to his old friend, the late, great Leith Stevens, who went to UMKC, where the Music Library is named for Stevens.Anyway, he comes here about twice a year, usually giving a lecture or speech while he is here. I've met him several times, albeit briefly, and while he is occasionally tempramental, usually he is a very pleasant and friendly guy. He once made some comments to me about James Horner that were priceless.
posted 02-15-2000 11:38 AM PT (US) 
PeterD

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Come on, come on, give us some anecdotes!! (Including the temperamental stuff, and what he said about Horner . . .)
posted 02-15-2000 10:59 PM PT (US) 
goldsmithfan

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Hey,
I'm sure you all knew this, but James Horner actually dated one of Goldsmith's daughters at one time.
posted 02-16-2000 06:10 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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[This message has been edited by Pete M (edited 02 March 2000).]
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