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Topic: WHY IS IT....(PART TWO!)
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Lonely Guy
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Okay, here is part two of "Why is IT!"
Again, while I was reading the Lost in Space thread, It made me wonder why just about EVERYONE hates the Lost in Space movie? I grew up watching the series, and though I loved it when I was a kid, I look at it today and think that IT sucks!!
I personally absolutely LOVED the film!! It took a very intriguing premise and made the situations real, such as how WOULD a family feel about going into space, leaving everything behind with the knowledge that they could all die, amongst other things!
The special effects were awesome, the acting (I thought) was terrific, the sets were fantastic, and the SCORE was INCREDIBLE!!
So, tell me, honestly, what WASN'T there to like about this movie??
(Okay, Jim; stand back for the withering blasts that are sure to come!!  )
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posted 06-27-2000 05:38 PM PT (US) ip
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dantoris
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For me, it was all because of the characters. I mean, how many times can we make a movie where the father "is never there for the son?" The romance (if you can call it that) between Heather Graham and Matt LeBlanc was laughable, and Gary Oldman (quite surprisingly) underplayed his role. Where was his usual over-the-top/campy approach. And the half-human/half-spider Smith was pretty lame. The score was servicable at best, even if there was no theme. Most of the characters were mis-cast. I think it would've been better (and several critics had suggested this as well at the time of the film's release) if the script had the family ending up on a planet where they had to make a home for themselves, a sort of "Swiss Family Robinson in space."In fact, the only thing I liked about the movie was Jupitar 2 (was it 2?) ship. That was the only cool effect in the entire film. It was soooo cool. Definitely a contender for the "what would you remake" thread over in JUST MOVIES. NP: StarGate - "Kasuf Returns" *****/***** [This message has been edited by dantoris (edited 27 June 2000).]
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posted 06-27-2000 05:47 PM PT (US) ip
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Tim_P
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Two words, Lonely Guy:Akiva Goldsman That man ruins every single movie he's ever written... NP: The Fury
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posted 06-27-2000 06:15 PM PT (US) ip
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Jeron
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Dantoris! How can you say that the LIS score has no theme??? Are you deaf, bro? The score has several VERY wonderful themes (or motifs, perhaps) that, considering the length of time Broughton has to compose, are quite awesome! Very powerful.Jeron
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posted 06-27-2000 06:29 PM PT (US) ip
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Chris Kinsinger
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I agree with Tim. Poor scripting ruins most films, and Lost In Space was done in by bad writing.
The film does have some fine qualities, and good moments, and I agree that the overall production design, sets and music were very good.But not good enough to overcome a lame script. The movie itself got "lost" after about 20 minutes.
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posted 06-27-2000 06:46 PM PT (US) ip
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dantoris
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Jeron - When I saw it, the sound was cranked up real, so I heard the music load and clear. Not once did I hear a theme. I didn't even the Lost In Space theme except for the hilarious version played during the song over the end credits.
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posted 06-27-2000 07:01 PM PT (US) ip
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logied
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Once they found that other space ship, it was all down hill. They are right, story line
s..... big time. With all of space to work
with you mean that all they could find was
themselves lost in time? The kid was TO smart
and the sister to smart ass. This movie
had great voltage and no amps.
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posted 06-27-2000 07:44 PM PT (US) ip
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JJH
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I stick by my opinion that if Heather Graham had just taken it off, it would have been a masterpiece no matter the story content.  NP -- The Patriot
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posted 06-27-2000 08:46 PM PT (US) ip
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Al
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There's most definitely a theme for Lost In Space. Being your basic memorable Broughton theme (as all of his are), it was the best part of the standard score. Most of the other themes, besides Smith's cartoonish motif, were basically modeled off of the main one. It may have not been memorable, but there is a main theme in the score. It's even more noticeable than the motif used throughout Elfman's Sleepy Hollow.
Dantoris, think real hard!
NP: Beltrami's "Crow: Salvation"
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posted 06-27-2000 09:04 PM PT (US) ip
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meegle
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I enjoyed the hell out of the movie but I appear to be in the minority. I saw it a second time once on a flight from St. Louis to San Francisco...some people thought it was so bad they were walking out (rim-shot).But really... The movie was quite like that joke...cliched. On the flip-side though it is INCREDIBLY charming. Its "cheese" factor goes way off the scale at times but hey!!! You know, in retrospect I think I walked out of LIS feeling more "fulfilled" than with Phantom Menace. Oh well....what do I know?
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posted 06-27-2000 09:47 PM PT (US) ip
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Bel366
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This was one of those movies that made me wonder: "Where's MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000 when you need it?" The biggest problem was the script. The effects ranged from impressive to mediocre (I'll not belabor that point because I know the production ended up racing the clock to get done). Of the actors, the only one who seemed to have the right take on the material was Gary Oldman, and everytime he threatened to make the film interesting, they would lock him up. On a personal note, if I live to never hear an actor utter the lines "Let's rock!" or "Let's rock and roll!" in another science fiction film, I will die a happy man.
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posted 06-28-2000 06:15 AM PT (US) ip
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