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    Topic:   "Lost in Space" Composed by: Jerry Goldsmith...

     Crono/Kyp
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    SO, I was digging through my memory the other day and rememebr that Jerry Goldsmith was originally going to composed the music for this movie. Does anyone know why he was removed from the project? ALso has anyone heard his score for the film? What's it like?

    --Kyp

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    posted 06-26-2000 05:49 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Kyp, Goldsmith never got an opportunity to write anything for the film... he was forced to turn down the project when his schedule (once again) conflicted with the film and it's schedule.

    I remember feeling utterly HEART BROKEN the day I found out! But hey, looking back, I wouldn't have it any other way... Broughton's score is a treasure in itself, and I'm glad he was chosen to score the film.

    Jeron

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    posted 06-26-2000 05:52 PM PT (US)     

     Chris Kinsinger
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    Didn't Jerry score the preview trailer for the film?

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    posted 06-26-2000 06:53 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    I think Goldsmith did NOT write a trailer for LOST IN SPACE -- or else we'd be hearing about it on this board all the time, wouldn't we? He did write and record one for JUDGE DREDD, another film he did not finally score, but I don't think that's happened another time.

    LOST IN SPACE marked at least the second time Goldsmith passed on an assignment for scheduling reasons, and recommended Broughton in his stead -- the previous example is TOMBSTONE. (Hence the "special thanks to Jerry Goldsmith" credit on the splendid TOMBSTONE disc.)

    I doubt that Goldsmith even came up with as much as a demo theme for LOST IN SPACE, and frankly I'm just as glad; the picture was so rancid that ANY good score (like Broughton's) is pretty well wasted.

    I've heard that John Williams was approached first for LOST IN SPACE, but can't absolutely confirm it; Goldsmith was probably first or second in line because he had just worked with the picture's director Stephen Hopkins on THE GHOST AND THE DARKNESS. (And Hopkins' previous favorite had been Alan Silvestri; interesting that he listened to Goldsmith and hired Broughton instead. Though I guess it's possible Silvestri just passed up on it, for whatever reason.)

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    posted 06-26-2000 07:16 PM PT (US)     

     Shaun Rutherford
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    You're correct, your H'ness. Goldsmith did not record a trailer score for the Lost In Space. Its trailer music was culled from Goldsmith's Judge Dredd trailer.

    Shaun

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    posted 06-26-2000 07:19 PM PT (US)     

     Chris Kinsinger
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    I KNEW that was Goldsmith music in the Lost In Space trailer! (Even though it was taken from another source.)

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    posted 06-26-2000 07:34 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Chris.... the sarcasm is much appreciated.

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    posted 06-26-2000 08:03 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    Huh. I didn't know that. (Honestly, I'm not sure I ever SAW the LOST IN SPACE trailer. Poor excuse though, if I did; I should have spotted the Goldsmith stuff in that event. However, in my own defense, I certainly had never heard a note of the JUDGE DREDD trailer until then. This putative event, I mean.)

    (hell, they put out so many different versions of the trailers these days, the version I MIGHT have seen was probably John Beal, David Newman and Gavin Greenaway) (oh, bad excuse, Beal did a version of JUDGE DREDD as well ... awright, even the H'ness might be fallible ...)

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    posted 06-26-2000 08:09 PM PT (US)     

     Chris Kinsinger
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    Jeron, I wasn't being sarcastic!
    I saw the Lost In Space trailer probably a dozen times before the film was released, and the music sounded like Goldsmith to me!

    Shaun just noted that this was the same music that Goldsmith composed for the Judge Dredd trailer.

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    posted 06-26-2000 08:15 PM PT (US)     

     Al
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    Don't get me wrong here. I absolutely love Broughton's music. He's one of my favorites, but whenever I see the Lost In Space trailer with that intense, rousing Goldsmith composition, I can't help but think how much better the film would have been with Goldsmith aboard. (even though Broughton's work was great, the only thing that he offered beside standard underscore was a great theme in the Broughton style- the rest was effective but just "standard")


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    posted 06-26-2000 08:47 PM PT (US)     

     Shaun Rutherford
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    Hey Al,
    I am in complete agreement with you, man. Just think about the Judge Dredd score had it been scored by Goldsmith! Wowzers!

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    posted 06-26-2000 09:00 PM PT (US)     

     Al
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    Wowzers, indeed!

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    posted 06-26-2000 09:35 PM PT (US)     

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    Well, if you listen carefully enough, Broughton DID model a couple of his LIS compositions after Goldsmith's Judge Dredd trailer. You can find these references in tracks 4 and 17. The pace should sound familiar to those of u well versed in Goldsmith's Dredd cue.

    Jeron

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    posted 06-26-2000 10:04 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    Let me qualify something I said above: I am aware of Goldsmith's having written ANOTHER unused trailer, but he wound up scoring the final film, too: EXTREME PREJUDICE (1987). (The cue in question appears as "Extreme Prejudice" on the Intrada album.)

    The producers of EXTREME PREJUDICE had also backed the RAMBO movies, and for whatever reason decided to substitute Goldsmith's powerhouse PREJUDICE trailer for some jumbled-together cues from the original FIRST BLOOD (a wonderful score, but they already had such a great ORIGINAL trailer score as it was!) (I know I've told this story a million times already, but maybe not ALL of you SAW it! I'm going on the "did you bring enough Twinkies for EVERYBODY??" principle.)

    I saw the EXTREME PREJUDICE trailer in the theaters -- the same one is the only one I've ever seen attached to home videos -- just moments before the original LETHAL WEAPON started playing. I remember thinking before it started that LETHAL WEAPON was probably REALLY going to suck ...

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    posted 06-27-2000 01:16 AM PT (US)     

     Howard L
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    Al--neither Goldsmith, Herrmann, Korngold nor Williams could have saved that piece of trash. Rocco's "rancid" description was far too complimentary.

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    posted 06-27-2000 05:30 AM PT (US)     

     Al
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    What piece of trash are we talking about? Prejudice or Lost In Space? Because Lost In Space at least looked decent.

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    posted 06-27-2000 09:27 AM PT (US)     

     Howard L
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    LIS

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    posted 06-27-2000 09:54 AM PT (US)     

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    Wasn't Alan Silvestri also in line to score the film? That's what I read, anyway.

    Man, I get excited just thinking about a Silvestri Lost In Space score!

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    posted 06-27-2000 10:16 AM PT (US)     

     Al
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    Once Goldsmith dropped the project, (for Mulan wasn't it? if so, it was for the better) many demos were sent for consideration. Silvestri's was seriously being considered, but eventually they went with Broughton's. This was the information given on the internet during the whole ordeal, so I'm just saying what was told.

    Oh c'mon, Howard. Any movie that has Heather Graham doesn't look that bad on the big screen. Anyway, I enjoy Gary Oldman in all of his features, even if his character is 2-d and given the worst lines. "oh trust me, evil knows evil" *gack*


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