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Topic: The Trouble With Templeton, vol. 8

Lou Goldberg

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Howard L--Yes, that was my great grandfather in there with Kelly and Sinatra.Actually my favorite movie Goldbergs are in NIGHT WORLD (that guy is so on the money--I'm just like him) and ONE HOUR WITH YOU, but that's another story altogether.
Ha, Revolution. The British are gonna wipe their butts with you. Go offend the French, they're offensive enough.
Sign me up for Alexander Hamilton, for if I revolt, I want to do it aristocratically, snuff, snuff.
[This message has been edited by Lou Goldberg (edited 28 June 2000).]
posted 06-28-2000 10:42 PM PT (US) 
Howard L
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Attn: LorienQuickly man, where do you stand on the issue of casting Martha?
Attn: Lou Munshin
Hamilton isn't even a member of this Congress!
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[This message has been edited by Howard L (edited 29 June 2000).]
posted 06-29-2000 05:55 AM PT (US) 
Lou Goldberg

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History be damned!
posted 06-30-2000 02:02 AM PT (US) 
MWRuger

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Hey Lou, at least you would get to be Washington's aide and meet Lafayette. That’s kinda cool. But his aristocratic demeanor is pretty much a sham as he was an orphan and self-made man. I have always found him more autocratic than aristocratic.[This message has been edited by MWRuger (edited 30 June 2000).]
posted 06-30-2000 07:20 AM PT (US) 
John Maher

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Howard - Yes, I did change my email address. I needed a new television, and MSN was offering a $400.00 instant rebate on anything in Best Buy. So, I got a 32 inch color TV for $49.00 and a new MSN account. My email is johnm_001@msn.com
By the way, my contract has yet to arrive. I will not perform, without a contract!posted 06-30-2000 07:32 AM PT (US) 
Chris Kinsinger

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quote:
Quickly man, where do you stand on the issue of casting Martha?Jefferson, that's NOT FUNNY!
If you make Joan cry one more time, I shall meet you at dawn with pistols, sir!
...AND I DON'T SHOOT BLANKS, EITHER!
posted 06-30-2000 06:42 PM PT (US) 
Howard L
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Oh good God, Lazlo wants to steal your wife's role and you're worried about Joan's. If you were talking for wives why couldn't you talk for your own?Lorien, the moniker's fine.
(I'll speak to the printer about it later)John, you NEGLECTED to tell me how new email addresses're made!
posted 07-01-2000 07:44 AM PT (US) 
Howard L
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MEMOTO: L Bloom
FROM: M Bialystock
SUBJECT: Rev. Witherspoon, Dr. FranklinRe Lorien--
THAT'S OUR WITHERSPOON! Outstanding entrance into this thread. He keeps talking like that & nobody's role is safe (except for Jefferson & Dickinson).
And serious consideration must be paid to S. Rutherford for a possible upgrade from McNair to Franklin. Received the most marvelous 'gratuity' in the form of a spanking crisp CDR of Obsession with previously unreleased material. Turned the volume all the way up that so that even the denizens of LittleOldLadyLand could hear it minus Beltones.
Please forward unopened package containing The Human Comedy to Mr. Rutherford at your convenience. He has indicated a desire to see this classic with its fine Stothart score per snippet included on (drum roll) "Mr. McKone's 'Cinema Paradiso'".
Which reminds me, the Times theatre critic has received the customary stipend. Have reiterated that if he continues to enjoy the show, "there's plenty more where that came from."
Yours, yours, yours, yours,
Max
posted 07-02-2000 03:46 PM PT (US) 
Howard L
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"History be damned!"Whaddaya think this is, PATRIOT?!
posted 07-02-2000 03:47 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Okay, I don't like musicals, you all know that if you're paying attention, but I'm wondering ... is there a particular part in 1776 that would be good for me? (I AM an inveterate ham, believe it or not. I've sung on stage before. I refer you to my grade-school performance in PETER PAN. I was Tootles! I wanted to be Captain Hook, but I was outdone by a girl with the roughest, gravelliest voice you could possibly imagine. In retrospect, she was perfect.)NP: CANDIDE (Leonard Bernstein and Dorothy Parker) (okay, I'm not REALLY playing it, but there ARE some decent little show tunes out there ... I grew up on CANDIDE, believe it or not ... the Emmy-winning off-Broadway version [there were several, all from the same team] is indelible in my consciousness. The dad of one of my best kindergarten friends designed the thing! I am NOT kidding!)
NP: (really) air conditioner
posted 07-02-2000 03:56 PM PT (US) 
Chris Kinsinger

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Rocco knows a participle from a predicate...
He should play the simple cobbler from Connecticut!Bialystock, WHEN was my wife EVER cast as Abigail?
I thought we already cast Lazlo as Abby!
And I have such a nice bosom ready for him...
posted 07-02-2000 07:20 PM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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Rocco,
You have reminded me of a childhood memory that I had forgotten long ago. Thank you. I guess I should tell the story. When I was in 5th grade, our school (Pleasant Valley Elementary) put on their version of Peter Pan, starring the most "flexible" male in our class, who went by the name of Danny. Long story short-- during the number "I'm Flying", Danny was flapping his arms about while suspended by wires, when suddenly, one of the wires snapped, causing ol' Danny to go into something of a spin and then have his OTHER arm slip out of the wire. 100 people watched Danny plummet to the stage that night.Man, that was hard to write out!
Shaun
posted 07-02-2000 08:02 PM PT (US) 
Chris Kinsinger

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WAS DANNY HURT???Good God, man!
WE NEED TO KNOW!During the 20th performance of the York Little Theatre production of Dracula, the bat-on-a-wire, which had battery-powered flapping wings, suddenly became caught in mid-stage, hovering and flapping for about 30 seconds, and then dropping to the floor.
This was not a comedy production, but it took about ten minutes for the audience to quiet down.
posted 07-02-2000 08:36 PM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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You know what? I don't remember! I know he wore a cast at one time, but that could have been for something else. Odd how people remember things, isn't it?Shaun
posted 07-02-2000 10:31 PM PT (US) 
Lou Goldberg

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MWR--at last I must say you are right sir. In any case, my falsetto is rusty as is my planter's wart--I will be forced to sit and not sing so I must play one of the fly-bitten Congress members or a cafe extra (about the same thing).As per The Patriot & Historie be damned---Why should real facts get in the way of a goode storie? Historie itself is a fiction written by the winners to make themselves look goode. HL Menckin said that not me. Actually, I think I'd make a goode Teddy Roosevelt, can I add him to the 1776 cast even if he wasn't born yet? He could just sit around in the cafe and say Bully once in a while.
posted 07-03-2000 02:38 AM PT (US) 
Howard L
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MT. GRETNA PLAYHOUSE presents a BIALYSTOCK/BLOOM PRODUCTION of 1776, directed by ROGER DEBRIS with orchestra conducted by MARCELO FERREYRA assisted by AARON COLLINS, and original costumes designed by CARMEN GIYA.A partial listing of THE CAST, in order of appearance:
John ADAMS..................PETERK
Abigail ADAMS...............Bonita KINSINGER
Benjamin FRANKLIN...........John MAHER
Richard Henry LEE...........H ROCCO
Lyman HALL..................BULLDOG
Andrew MCNAIR...............Shaun RUTHERFORD
Stephen HOPKINS.............SPOR
Edward RUTLEDGE.............MWRUGER
Caesar RODNEY...............logieD
Thomas MCKEAN...............Lou GOLDBERG
John HANCOCK................Eric PADDON
John DICKINSON..............Chris KINSINGER
James WILSON................Luscious LAZLO
a COURIER...................JoeInSANDIEGO
Rev. Jonathan WITHERSPOON...LORIEN
Thomas JEFFERSON............Howard L
Martha JEFFERSON............joan HUEunderstudy for Ms. hue: DEX
posted 07-03-2000 04:40 PM PT (US) 
Howard L
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MEMOTO: L Bloom
FROM: M BialystockH Rocco requested ham, you don't get 'em any hammier than RHLee. Goldberg perfect for Col. McKean, likes to whitewash history. Nix on Abigail/Lazlo, this isn't La Cage Aux Patriot.
Max
PS
Have sold 25,000%...posted 07-03-2000 04:49 PM PT (US) 
Howard L
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ALL RIGHT GENTLEMEN (and ladies), LET'S GET ON WITH IT!
posted 07-03-2000 05:00 PM PT (US) 
Timmer

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There I go, too late at the auditions as usual!
posted 07-03-2000 05:10 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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I GET TO BE ROBERT H. LEE? Oh MAN! Sometimes it pays to ask!!!! (I can't even remember who he is, to be honest, but I am flattered, it sounds like a big part. He's not to be confused with Robert E. Lee Prewitt, I assume.)Hey, Mr. L, the 'chanter needs a role. How'sabout you give HIM Thomas Jefferson? It's not that easy to direct and act at the same time, as I see you're hoping to do. (I know, it's not my business to dictate whatever your capabilities may be.)
NP: A PATCH OF BLUE (the OST, not the ballet) (see, some things I'm GOOD at remembering)
posted 07-03-2000 06:39 PM PT (US) 
Chris Kinsinger

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RICHARD HENRY LEE! RICHARD HENRY LEE!Rocco...you gotta see this show!
posted 07-03-2000 08:03 PM PT (US) 
Lou Goldberg

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I don't like to whitewash history, I just realize that it is a whitewash. Who the phuck is T. McK.?
posted 07-03-2000 08:29 PM PT (US) 
Al

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Am I too late to audition for the part of Scott Bakula??
Oh wait. I think I was supposed to go to a post titled "The Trouble With TRIBBLES, pt.8"
Whoops. My mistake. You're doing a history play, eh? Hmm. I'm trying out for a musical stage version of "Major League 3: Back To The Minors." Well, I'm sure your production will be good too.
NP: Kamen's "Event Horizon"posted 07-03-2000 08:56 PM PT (US) 
Chris Kinsinger

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Cool yer jets, Lou.Thomas McKean was one of the three Congressmen from the fair state of Maryland.
A very good part, too!
posted 07-03-2000 09:05 PM PT (US) 
Chris Kinsinger

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What a GREAT show this was!
The best YET!I think PeterK outshines Lukas in every way in his debut as Adams, although I wasn't too pleased with the way he kept looking at Abigail...as if undressing her with his eyes!
Maher, your Franklin was perfection!
And Rocco! Your leap onto the chair was exquisitely done!Joan! Your smooching scenes with Howard were positively toe-curling! There's real chemistry there!
Now, Howard...about that one line during "The Egg", when Ben sang "And just as Tom here has written..." and you & PeterK joined in, "We say to hell with Great Britain!" ...I could have sworn that you sang I SAY TO HELL WITH THAT BRITON!
WHOM did you have in mind, good sir?
posted 07-04-2000 01:49 PM PT (US) 
Boris

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The show-stopper was definiteLEE H Rocco dancing on that chair! I was in stitches! Joan, you looked so alluring in that bosom-hugging outfit. Was Howard putting any moves on you? He certainLEE seemed to be enjoying that extended kiss...Can't say as I blame him!
posted 07-04-2000 02:13 PM PT (US) 
Eric Paddon

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Whew! I'm glad to see that my lack of participation in this thread hasn't led to my being replaced as Hancock.
NP: "1776", expanded laser disc! (what else on this day?)
posted 07-04-2000 02:25 PM PT (US) 
joan hue

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Thank you Boris. Ah, the anonymity of this Board. Hubby
and I are still laughing over “alluring and bosom hugging.”
(He loves me anyway.)
If that is what my costume looks like and if I haven’t any
“support or make up” from Chris, you may mistake me
for Howard.
Of course, Howard is an A+ smoocher as
he is a writer.
NP A Bridge Too Farposted 07-04-2000 02:38 PM PT (US) 
Brad Wills

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I can speak from expreience that flying on stage is an incredibly uncomfortable affair. My first professional job was playing the Tinman in a tour of THE WIZARD OF OZ. Since the film and story is ingrained in the collective subconscious I probably don't have to remind you that the Tinman is at one point lifted up in the air by unseen spirits in the Haunted Forest. I was pretty excited to fly until I saw the torture device...I mean HARNESS!!!...that I had to wear. I was only on one wire for my type of flying so my harness had one latch for the wire, on a large, flat leather support on my back. Extending from the leather were four heavily padded straps, two that went over my shoulders, and two that went under my crotch!!! OWWW!!! These were then buckled into a belt that also extended from the support. (By contrast, those on two wires had much more comfortable harnesses which attached at the shoulders.) The harness was built specifically for me and was brand new. It was a stiff as plywood. Those straps around my crotch...too...painful...can't...think...about it. It had to buckled very tightly, too, to prohibit any splippage. Anyway the only way that the tech who "flew" me could get the proper velocity for the effect of me being lifted up quickly was to climb a ladder to the top, grab onto his rope, and JUMP from ladder. It hurt. The worst was during a photo call when I suspended in mid-air for about 10 minutes with this thing cutting off the circulation in my unmentionables. Anyway, after I fell to Earth the other characters would gather around me, unhook the wire and I would quickly dash offstage to pass the wire back to the crew. Then we'd dance The Jitterbug, which was replaced for the stage version. One time the techie missed the flying cue and I stood there like an idiot. Since I couldn't do the jitterbug in the wire the only solution was run offstage and have the crew unhook me. Well...just as I started to go offstage the guy realized his mistake. Unfortunately my movement and his lift caused me to FLY offstage at which point I slammed right into the lighting tower. LOL
Only in theater....
posted 07-04-2000 03:26 PM PT (US) 
Timmer

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'I SAY TO HELL WITH THAT BRITON', Chris, if thats the line (arms in an open gesture...Burt Lancaster grin) I'm the man!!p.s. I don't have a Burt Lancaster grin!

posted 07-04-2000 04:43 PM PT (US) 
Chris Kinsinger

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WELL HOWARD...TIMMER'S WAITING FOR YOUR RESPONSE! TO WHICH "BRITON" WERE YOU REFERRING???
posted 07-04-2000 06:54 PM PT (US) 
Boris

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The suspense is KILLING me...I hope it will last!
posted 07-04-2000 08:25 PM PT (US) 
Howard L
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Great. There's always gotta be one Rabbit Ears in the audience--er, uh, standing in the wings. I couldn't help it, it just came out. Spoken inadvertent-LEE, God help us! Timmer, like 'dem Bum fans in RoccoLand used to say, "wait'll next year!" No, it wasn't you. And everybody TAKE ONE GUESS whom "that (Circumlocutionary Manipulative Sycophant) Briton" could be. ONE GUESS.All in all it was a triumph, I tell you a triumph. Mr. Dickinson, please tell your wife (she is your wife, isn't she?) that never have I heard singing so on-pitch, never have I heard singing so resolute, never have I heard...oh good God: Lazlo, we all realize Wilson was a bit of a wuss but did you have to give him a limp wrist? And joan, I'm not Welsh and this is not the Taylor/Burton hour. Logied, your casting was perfect; just like poor old Caesar you show up & then disappear. Stick around and maybe next year you can work your way up to...let's see...how about John Dickinson! They tell me that judging from Mr. K's profile photo he'd be the perfect Bacon Face from Maryland!
posted 07-05-2000 12:42 PM PT (US) 
JoeInSanDiego

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A courier?I'M...a COURIER????
how the mighty have fallen...
NP - Cape Fear - Herrmann
posted 07-05-2000 01:24 PM PT (US) 
Mark Hatfield
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I cannot BELIEVE that the role of Richard Henry Lee has been given out....in enthusiasm and general demeanor, I OWN that part!
'Course, I AM tall enough to assay Mr. Jefferson. Next time?

posted 07-05-2000 01:30 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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you can have it, pal. You'll do a better job, I'm sure. (I don't even care about this show! I'm just being a ham!)
posted 07-05-2000 01:47 PM PT (US) 
Chris Kinsinger

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quote:
They tell me that judging from Mr. K's profile photo he'd be the perfect Bacon Face from Maryland!One word: NEVUHHH!
A few additional words: There's only ONE reason why Leo Bloom puts up half the cash to DO this show every year, and that's because it's the ONLY way he'll ever get to play John Dickinson, and sing his favorite song in front of a captive audience!
AND there's only ONE reason why Max Bialystock puts up the other half: it's the one day every year when he gets to suck face with a lovely actress! So you can take your Bacon Face idea and stick it where the sun don't shine! Oh, and Howard...cut out the "They tell me" crap, because EVERYBODY KNOWS you've been all over that Member Profile section, drooling over our pictures!
Now get your face in there right away!
"Bacon Face", Grrrrrrrrr...[This message has been edited by Chris Kinsinger (edited 05 July 2000).]
posted 07-05-2000 05:19 PM PT (US) 
Howard L
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SEZ YOU. Ya think I want to turn to stone? And BTW, how am I supposed to pick on Lou for playing fast and footloose with history without nailing YOU for saying McKean was a delegate from Maryland. Whitewash, indeed!Joe, certainly your experience riding horseback as the "Sheriff" made you an eminent natural to play the courier. Of course, the Ian Holm look had to go but then again it was 'Momma', not you that was meant to look sharp.
Monsieur Goldberg, take five. The early response about "whitewashing history" was an intentional fun-filled 1776 reference not aimed at you for the purpose of personal rancor. I would have called you a fribble at best or at worst, a LAWYER if the latter was involved. No, and speaking frank-LEE this entire thread is LACED with 1776isms per that last remark to Joe. Perhaps we can arrange that a video of the laserdisc be shipped to your farm up at Braintree so's that you's can brush up on this thoroughly FASCINATING production which made history (okay...minimal literary licenses included) come ALIVE.
My humble & obedient Senator Hatfield:
With a moniker like that how could we have missed your presence in this year's revival?! And double this gross, oh GROSS omission, considering that you are a proven patriot AND a lover! (Lou, there's another 'ism) However, per Mr. K's response above, the roles of Jefferson & Dickinson are of the lifetime variety, my shortness in stature notwithstanding. Perhaps after a short buffo dip in the Raritan River and a few flourishes with the Witherspoon ladies we can consider an alternative resolution.Mr. K: Our Judge Wilson is wondering why Ms. Danner & not Ms. Buckley found her way into the film. In truth I can't recall fully, but was not Mr. Hunt rather evasive on this issue? Perhaps you can elaborate?? Virginia respectfully yields to Pennsylvania (Lou!!).
posted 07-06-2000 07:11 AM PT (US) 
Chris Kinsinger

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Jefferson...I'M NOT EVEN SPEAKING TO YOU!
posted 07-06-2000 07:28 AM PT (US) 
John Maher

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I've been meaning to congratulate everyone on a wonderful show! However, after the performance on the 4th, I was surrounded by such lovely fans, that I spent the next couple of days "whoring and drinking". I know it's shocking, but I was just overwhelmed by it all. I've portrayed Jefferson so often, and nothing ever happend. It seems that Franklin is a great sex symbol. I couldn't keep the babes off me!
posted 07-06-2000 07:58 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
