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    Topic:   LP's to CD's......Is it possible???

     meegle
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    Ok, so I finally got myself a cd burner and I'd like to transfer my albums and long-play (lp's) to disc. Does anyone know how I could go about doing this?
    I think I'd have to save my LP audio to wav format but I don't know how to do that?

    Also does anyon know of a program out there that gets rid of the pops and hiss and scratches that accompany "records". I'm pretty sure they exist cuz I'e got a cd that boasts having used one.

    Help!

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    posted 06-23-2000 07:08 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    You need to plug the output of your LP player to the input of your soundcard. The problem: Most of the LP players don't have a built-in amplifier, so their output is much to low for your soundcard. Solution: Plug the LP player to your amplifier, and the amplifier's output to your soundcard.

    The quality depends on your soundcard, as I keep saying, standard soundblaster cards don't have a good A/D converter and produce much hissing noises when recording from external sources. Of course, an amplifier with digital out and a newer soundcard with digital in would solve this problem, or you could get a souncard with a good converter, but those are expensive. Just try it with your card to hear if the quality is good enough for you.

    As for software, CoolEdit Pro and Steinberg Wave Lab are very good audio editing programs. Plug-ins for noise removal exist for both, but as the programs, I think they are commercial. I once found a link to CoolEdit for those who don't mind to use pirate copies, but it doesn't seem to work anymore.

    There are also several less expensive programs written particularly for transfering LP's to CD's, so you may want to check out one of those.

    Good luck.

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    posted 06-23-2000 07:20 AM PT (US)     

     meegle
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    Hey there,

    I'm not sure I have a soundcard cuz I gots a laptop. Hmmmm.......

    Thanks for the program info!

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    posted 06-23-2000 07:35 AM PT (US)     

     logied
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    We need more information such as:
    Did your Burner come with software and what
    kind?
    What Burner did you buy?
    Is it now in your system as an added drive
    to your regular CD drive.
    How close is your stereo system to your computer and can you run a direct line from
    your amp to your soundcard.
    What are you willing to pay for recording
    software. Less than 50., Less than 100.
    or less than 300.
    And most important, how fussy are you on your recordings?
    Most everyone does it different so you will
    get alot of, "I do it this way"
    Welcome to another frustrating use of your
    computer and software.

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    posted 06-23-2000 07:40 AM PT (US)     

     meegle
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    I have a Gateway 2500 laptop with just 2 gigs. Like I said I'm not sure I have a soundcard (I thought soundcards are only on desktops pc's).

    Here's the burner I purchased...
    http://www.micro-solutions.com/product_info/cdrw/m190130.html

    As far as my fussiness...I'd like my cd copies from LP to sound JUST as good if not better than from the record. Just as good is fine with me.

    In the back of the burner there is a slot that says "remove to install sound option".
    There's also a little female end that looks like a headphone jack that says "cd audio".
    I tried using the SOUND RECORDER that comes with Windows but it sounded horrible. I figured i was doing something wrong.

    Thanks in advance for your help.



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    posted 06-23-2000 08:21 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    If your notebook can play sound, it has a soundcard. I'm only not sure if notebook soundcards generally have an input connector.

    If you want your CDs to sound as good as the LPs, you will have to use either a digital connection or a good soundcard. My AWE64 produces easily noticeable hiss noises - the reason why I haven't yet made a CDR from the isolated Matrix DVD score. Ripping doesn't work well with this one, and my soundcard is too bad.

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    posted 06-24-2000 07:49 AM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    Yes, you're gonna have to have a tower to be able to do this without headaches.

    I have a computer with a line-in, adjust the PC's playback to record, set up a folder on my desktop into which I record all tracks, adjust the balance and line-in volume, and start recording. Almost always sounds good.


    sabbey,
    was I supposed to send you my CD transfer of John Barry's Petulia ? Or did I do that already? It's been awhile, and this thread got me to thinking.

    Man, I'm so ethical sometimes, I could kill myself.

    NP -- Copycat Main Titles; from my private Chris Young compilation


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    posted 06-24-2000 02:27 PM PT (US)     

     jonathan_little
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    My Sony F180 notebook has a "mic in" and a headphone jack... it also has (crappy) built-in speakers. From the headphones it has great sound quality (it plays DVD movies wonderfully ) My uncle had a laptop (I'm not sure of the brand, though), and he said that the sound was awful on it, even when listening with a decent pair of headphones. I guess it depends on the laptop.

    Window's Sound Recorder is probably going to record at 8 bit, 11025Hz. These files are going to sound horible. Download Goldwave and record a 16 bit, 44100Hz file. This should create a CD-quality recording.

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    posted 06-24-2000 02:53 PM PT (US)     

     Sean Bires
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    CoolEdit Pro, the program Marian Schedenig mentioned earlier, is the best WAV editor I've ran into. I have a "pirate" ("warez") copy (8 megs) if you want it.

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    posted 06-24-2000 05:39 PM PT (US)     

     logied
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    If you want LPs recorded I would be glad to
    record some for you. I have done that with
    all of my collection and have direct setup.
    Your cost would be mailing and material only.(Approx 2.50 per CD plus mailing) If I already have the Lp on CD your saved on the
    mailing of the LP. They come out better on
    CDR.

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    posted 06-24-2000 06:42 PM PT (US)     

     Onelegger
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    Spin Doctor is a program made especially for taking out the pops and noise from tapes and LP's before you put them on CD. It is availiable with Adaptec's Easy CD Creator Deluxe. I've tried it out from a tape and it took the pops and noise very nicely.

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    posted 06-24-2000 07:25 PM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    my DART CD-Recorder program also records at the standard 16-bit level.

    It also allopws me to record in mono! I almost did that with my Alex North A Dream of Kings LP. The sound is pretty bad on that LP. I don't know if that's from age of the LP, or from misuse by a previous handler. But I elected to keep the stereo as heard on the LP. Mayeb I should hagve done a 100 Rifles-like stereo/ mono CD presentation...

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    posted 06-24-2000 09:46 PM PT (US)     

     meegle
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    Hey logied,

    Here are the LP's that I have that I'd like to transfer to CD...do u have any of these?

    The Amityville Horror
    The Black Hole
    The Black Stallion
    Buck Rogers in the 25th Century
    Creepshow
    The Final Countdown
    Invasion of the Body Snatchers (remake)
    Popeye the Movie
    Psycho 2
    Return to Oz
    Twilight Zone the Movie

    Thanks in advance!

    [This message has been edited by meegle (edited 25 June 2000).]

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    posted 06-25-2000 08:18 AM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    Hey, isn't Final Countdown going to released and expanded by JOS Records pretty soon?

    Hey, I'd like Return to Oz myself, I've heard so many good things about it.
    Was there a CD release? anyone? anyone?

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    posted 06-25-2000 09:20 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    quote:
    Originally posted by jonathan_little:
    Window's Sound Recorder is probably going to record at 8 bit, 11025Hz. These files are going to sound horible.

    Windows (since version 95) uses Audio Codecs for playback and recording. The Sound Recorder depends on them, too, so it can record with any quality your soundcard is capable of. Recording with 16 bit @ 44 KHz should be no problem, I think. But, of course - the program is crap

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    posted 06-25-2000 01:42 PM PT (US)     

     meegle
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    "But of course...the program is crap."


    Thanks Marian, I couldnt stop laughing!!!!

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    posted 06-25-2000 03:02 PM PT (US)     

     DjC
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    We have copied all of our LPs to CD a la burner, and they sound great!:d

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    posted 06-25-2000 07:51 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    quote:
    Originally posted by meegle:
    "But of course...the program is crap."

    Thanks Marian, I couldnt stop laughing!!!!


    Feel free to expand that comment to more or less anything Microsoft ever made, except for my mousepad and the Age of Empires games. Although they didn't write those, of course, only bought them.

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    posted 06-26-2000 09:45 AM PT (US)     

     meegle
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    Hey Marian and everyone...

    In the "sound-recorder" that comes with Windows98, how do u change the length/duration of a new track/folder? If I press record it defaults at a minute I think. I have to press record again for it to be longer. The longer the track gets the longer it takes to make the track longer i.e. my computer "thinks" for about 2 minutes and then only adds about 15 seconds.

    ???

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    posted 06-26-2000 01:24 PM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    I have Windows98, but I just open up the Volume Control, on the lower right of the screen, and change the option to recording, and use a software program to record to any length.

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    posted 06-26-2000 02:17 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    meegle, I haven't used the "standard" sound recorder in years, and I see no reason why you should have to mess around with it. Check out the above mentioned Goldwave or some other good recording tool. Will save you a lot of trouble

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    posted 06-26-2000 05:23 PM PT (US)     

     meegle
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    Yeah I've started working with Goldwave. It's kind of daunting and easy at the same time.

    Thanks all!!

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    posted 06-26-2000 06:20 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by JJH:

    sabbey,
    was I supposed to send you my CD transfer of John Barry's Petulia? Or did I do that already? It's been awhile, and this thread got me to thinking.


    I don't think so! You might have me confused with someone else, since all you needed to do was Supergirl, which you sent several months back.

    Regards,
    Sean Robert Abbey

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    posted 06-26-2000 06:39 PM PT (US)     

     meegle
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    Who needed to do Supergirl?

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    posted 06-26-2000 06:41 PM PT (US)     

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    LOL, if anyone, that would have to be me!

    Regards,
    Sean Robert Abbey

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    posted 06-26-2000 07:02 PM PT (US)     

     meegle
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    I was finally able to get Goldwave to like me and......it worked!!!! I just transfered "The Final Countdown" to cd....woohoo. Yes, yes I know one was available but there are just some prices I refuse to pay for a score.

    I just want thank everyone that posted on this board for helping me. I owe ya'll!!!

    Laterz!

    PS. On that Goldwave...what's up with that "toll" thingy? Am I gonna get some kinda bill in the mail after I use it 50 times???


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    posted 06-27-2000 09:38 PM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    Using Goldwave, don't you have to tell it how long the tracks is that you want to record, rather thsn just recording as you go along?

    I found this rather annoying about Goldwave. That, and I couldn't read the damn thing anyway if I wanted to make edits.

    but congrats on your first LP conversion.
    Mine was Jerry Goldsmith's The Prize.

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    posted 06-27-2000 09:50 PM PT (US)     

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    I haven't used Goldwave in quite a while, but it is what I started using quite a while ago. The "toll" thing must be a counter showing you how many times you've run the program. Perhaps after a certain number of executions the software is disabled. After all, it is shareware and the author wants to make money from the software

    There are plenty of other programs out there that do the same thing, so be sure to look here and there for one that you like.

    My first transfer is going to be "Breakheart Pass."

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    posted 06-28-2000 08:18 AM PT (US)     
     

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