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    Topic:   Your favorite lesser known scores

     Lee
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    Everyone has a favorite piece of music which stands out amongst our collections. Within the last year, I've just started listening to smaller scores such as Brian Lock's soundtrack to "The Land Girls" and it has certainly become one of my favorite cds. How about you? Does anyone have a particular cd or cds that grabs your attention but might be completely unknown to the rest of us?

    NP Durango ****/****

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    posted 06-02-2000 07:44 PM PT (US)     

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    Well, of my entire collection, I have probably one CD that nobody else does: George S. Clinton's score to the Michael Dudikoff film Platoon Leader. (Thank you Brad Wills for getting it for me!) I really enjoy it. It's probably his best work, and I play it at least twice a week. It perfectly captures the heroism, mystery, danger, and the exotic locations of the Vietnam War. (A helluva good movie, too!)

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    posted 06-02-2000 07:57 PM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    Golden Gate by Elliot Goldenthal stands out to me.

    a small little gem of a score. And completely different than Alien3, etc.

    and the same for JNH's The Saint of Fort Washington.

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    posted 06-02-2000 08:39 PM PT (US)     

     Rang
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    Bill Conti's great scores for THE KARATE KID films, in particular PART II. Terrific music (although not much - if any - of Conti's scores have been released; too bad).

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    posted 06-03-2000 12:18 AM PT (US)     

     Rang
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    Let me add Frank Skinner's excellent score to Hitchcock's SABOTEUR.

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    posted 06-03-2000 12:24 AM PT (US)     

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    Well, there are probably quite a few. However just to choose one. I'd have to say The Transformers: The Movie by Vince Dicola.

    I just love this score. However since it is from an cartoon I doubt many know of it.

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    posted 06-03-2000 12:31 AM PT (US)     

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    Ditto that....I love those old 1980's animated film scores, like "Transformers", and also "The Last Unicorn", which has some enjoyable songs and a terrific fantasy score.
    Now if they'd only release Bernstein's "Black Cauldron"...

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    posted 06-03-2000 04:55 AM PT (US)     

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    Mountains of the Moon by Michael Small

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    posted 06-03-2000 06:21 AM PT (US)     

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    Land´s End by Marco Beltrami. Like a mixture of the guitar bits out of Under Fire and Young´s Bright Angel

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    posted 06-03-2000 06:35 AM PT (US)     

     SBD
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    Y'know, I liked this thread a few weeks ago...when it was called "Forgotten Scores!".
    But I won't hold a grudge. Julian Nott is a fine composer; I really enjoy his scores for the Wallace and Gromit shorts. If you haven't seen them yet, do it. They're very good. My kingdom for a CD release!

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    posted 06-03-2000 08:48 AM PT (US)     

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    Yes, another vote for Mountains Of The Moon!
    Epic, richly varied and beautiful.

    A few more:
    The Old Man And The Sea (Bruce Broughton)
    Anne OF Green Gables (Hagood Hardy)
    Pelle The Conqueror: (Stefan Nilsson)

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    posted 06-03-2000 09:19 AM PT (US)     

     Nicolai P. Zwar
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    Wojchiech Kilar's PORTRAIT OF A LADY... one of Kilar's best scores ever, certainly one of my 1990s favorites, yet hardly ever mentioned (except by a handful of people).

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    posted 06-03-2000 09:51 AM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    another one I just got in the mail today:

    Frankie Starlight by Elmer Bernstein.

    another ondes martenot score, but I don't mind. It's an intriguing sound, and I don't have much Bernstein anyway!

    good score!


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    posted 06-03-2000 02:49 PM PT (US)     

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    Killar's "Portrait of a Lady" is indeed a great score!! Specially if you consider how bad the movie is...

    Others:

    - Elmer Bernstein's "Spacehunter"
    - Basil Poledouris' "Farewell to the King"
    - Morricone's "Rampage"
    - Goldsmith's "Powder" - great underrated score!
    - Chris Young's "The Vagrant" - bizarre!
    - James Horner's "A Far Off Place" - his last real good score
    - Howard Shore's "Ed Wood" - best score for a Tim Burton movie
    - Randy Newman's "Awakenings"
    - Robert Folk's "Beastmaster 2"
    - Yamashiro Shoji's "Akira"
    - Danny Elfman's "Midnight Run" - his best effort to date
    - Patrick Doyle's "Needful Things"
    - James Newton Howard's "The Prince of Tides"
    - Zibgnew Preisner's "Trois Colors: Bleu"

    etc...

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    posted 06-03-2000 03:17 PM PT (US)     

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    Those are great choices fellas. especially JJ's take on Saint of Fort Washington that is JNH's most compelling and heartfelt score he's written. Here are my faves:

    Glengarry Glen Ross (JNH)
    Last of the Dogmen (David Arnold)
    Carlito's Way (Patrick Doyle)
    French Kiss (JNH)
    Afterglow (Mark Isham)
    Primal Fear (JNH)
    Malice (Jerry Goldsmith)
    Cinderella Liberty (John Williams)
    The Chamber (Carter Burwell)
    The Man Who Knew Too Little (Christopher Young)
    The Paper Chase (John Williams)
    Blood In Blood Out (Bill Conti)
    Sunchaser (Maurice Jarre)
    Article 99 (Danny Elfman)
    The Astronaut's Wife (George S.Clinton)
    Mulholland Falls (Dave Grusin)
    Teaching Miss Tingle (John Frizzell)
    The Net (Mark Isham)
    Devil In A Blue Dress (Elmer Bernstein)
    The Crucible (George Fenton)
    The Last Seduction (Joseph Viterelli)
    Pacific Heights (Hans Zimmer)
    M.Butterfly (Howard Shore)
    A Walk In The Clouds (Maurice Jarre)
    The River Wild (Jerry Goldsmith)
    The Three Musketeers (Michael Kamen)
    Cool World (Mark Isham)
    The Manhattan Project (Philippe Sarde)
    Extreme Prejuidce (Jerry Goldsmith)
    Most Wanted (Paul Buckmaster)
    Romancing the Stone (Alan Silvestri)
    The Man Without A Face (James Horner)


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    posted 06-03-2000 06:59 PM PT (US)     

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    No one EVER mentions Angela Morley's absolutely gorgeous score to Watership Down ... 'cept me, of course.

    Trevor Jones' The Dark Crystal is also one I think a lot more people would be familiar with if it were more readily available. It's a magnificent piece of music!

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    posted 06-03-2000 08:41 PM PT (US)     

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    Poor, poor Wedge, adrift in the solitude of politics, bunnies, and pretty music. Alright, I'll back you up on this one: WATERSHIP DOWN is absolutely stunning. Unfortunately it's out of print and I got the last copy at Footlight about three months ago. It's also one of the best animated films ever, IMHO.

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    posted 06-03-2000 09:07 PM PT (US)     

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    The Assisi Underground by Dov Seltzer. I have never seen or heard anybody mention this score besides me. It´s a great Jewish-type score, quite similar to QBVII in its themes. Definitely worth seeking out.

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    posted 06-04-2000 04:45 AM PT (US)     

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    Hm, I hadn't thought of some of those as "lesser known scores", otherwise I would have mentioned them myself. But if they really are lesser known, I guess I could add Doyle's Dead Again - film and score introduced me to Branagh and Doyle, which are both favourites of mine.

    NP: Poltergeist (Mr. Detroit)

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    posted 06-04-2000 06:17 AM PT (US)     

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    Wedgie m'man, I'm sure I told you before that Watership down was one of my fave scores?!, I was even playing it this afternoon!
    As for my fave little known scores...

    Dr.Jeckyl and Sister Hyde - David Whitaker...never released

    Into Thin Air - Lee Holdridge

    Pan Tadeusz - Wojciech Kilar....no one bar me seem's to have this recent excellent release.

    Haunted Summer - Chris Young

    The Killing Fields - Mike Oldfield/David Bedford

    A Far Off Place - Horner....nice one for noting this Andre!

    Conan The Barbarian - Poledouris....wha's wrong wit you people, TONE DEAF OR SUMMINK!! .....am I d'only one who ever heard dis?....gowan out n'buy it

    NP : Goldfinger - doubt y'ever heard of im.

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    posted 06-04-2000 05:34 PM PT (US)     

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    John Du Prez' A Fish Called Wanda is fun, especially those mock-romantic fanfares (e.g. "Humping").

    NP: Essential Goldsmith. Too tired to write the complete title.

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    posted 06-04-2000 06:14 PM PT (US)     

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    Seeing Andre mention Spacehunter (which I finally acquired after four years of longing for) reminded of another 80s sci-fi Bernstein, Slipstream, a film with Mark Hamill and Bill Paxton that was never theatrically-released in the U.S. It's got a really fun and adventurous score. It's unreleased, but I recorded the End Titles from my crappy EP-copy of the film on a compilation CD I made awhile back. The score's kind of a mixture of Spacehunter and The Magnificent Seven. I wish there was a full CD release, or at least a good-sounding boot.

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    posted 06-04-2000 06:23 PM PT (US)     

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    Thanks for mentioning THE LAST UNICORN, Lancelot. That sure woke up dormant memories - a lovely, animated flick with a heart. The score was by Jimmy Webb. Any relation to Roy?

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    posted 06-05-2000 06:52 AM PT (US)     

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    Andre mentioned the Polish composer Preisner: his AT PLAY IN THE FIELDS OF THE LORD is absolutely fantastic, a superb achievement! Thanks for reminding me of that one! It was a good movie, too!

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    posted 06-05-2000 09:21 AM PT (US)     

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    Is At Play... available anywhere? Never thought of looking for it.

    Don't forget The Secret Garden, too

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    posted 06-05-2000 09:24 AM PT (US)     

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    While not really lesser-known scores, the Halloween scores, I think, are underrated by most. Sure, the first is actually a little repetitive, and II has some very good tracks, most noteably "The Shape Enters Laurie's Room" and "Flats In The Parking Lot" (a very strange track that sounds almost like air leaking from a tire). The Season of the Witch features several standout tracks, especially the throbbing "Main Title" and "The Rock."

    But Alan Howarth's scores for Halloween 4, 5 and 6 are the best of the series. He's developed additional themes and cues, and his scores are actually more listenable than Carpenter's because (though his scores are just fine). In fact, most of Howarth's music sounds almost acoustical. Too bad he didn't score H20. Ottman had some good stuff, but Howarth (in my opinion) is the only person who can correctly score a Halloween film

    (P.S.: As if you couldn't tell, I'm a huge Halloween fanatic.)

    NP: Halloween II - "The Shape Stalks Again" ****/***** (A more intense version of the original's "The Shape Stalks," as Michael Myers persues Donald Pleasance and Jamie Lee through the hospital.)

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    posted 06-05-2000 12:18 PM PT (US)     

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    Off the top of my head:

    MEMPHIS BELLE (George Fenton)
    FRANK & JESSE (Mark McKenzie)
    WHERE ANGELS FEAR TO TREAD (Rachel Portman, first time I noticed her)
    PUMPKINHEAD (Richard Stone)
    THE TRAVELING EXECUTIONER (Jerry Goldsmith -- perhaps unwise to mention a Goldsmith score at all, but it's like nobody ever heard of this one, although the decent-sounding bootleg, coupled with Goldsmith's excellent STRIPPER, has been out forever)
    NORMA JEAN & MARILYN (Christopher Young)
    BOSS OF THE UNDERWORLD (Akira Ifukube)
    LATE FOR DINNER (David Mansfield, short but wonderful score)
    DEAD CALM (Graeme Revell, still possibly the best work he's done in films)
    CHILDREN OF THE CORN 2 (Daniel Licht)
    THE HITMAN (Joel Derouin)

    and,

    Anything by the grossly underrated Terry Plumeri.

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    posted 06-05-2000 11:15 PM PT (US)     

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    I agree with you sabbey, I definitely LOVE The Transformers The Movie score! Two more scores to go with that are The Fabulous Baker Boys by Dave Grusin and Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman by Jay Gruska.

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    posted 06-06-2000 06:20 AM PT (US)     

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    SPACEBALLS by John Morris. A great score for an excellent comedy.

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    posted 06-06-2000 12:25 PM PT (US)     

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    For that matter, John Morris' Oscar-nominated dramatic score for ELEPHANT MAN is relatively well known -- relatively compared to his superb, sadly textured work on THE DOCTOR AND THE DEVILS, which, if I remember correctly, includes a nicely wistful little song performed by Twiggy (she plays a barmaid). An LP release was announced at the time by Filmtrax, but nothing ever came of it (as often seems to have happened with that label in the middle 1980s). Or if something DID come of it, I've never seen nor heard of a copy. (I THINK it was Filmtrax ... not sure.) Morris probably got the ELEPHANT MAN and DEVILS jobs because both were produced by (Mel) Brooksfilms -- he wasn't the obvious choice for either, although he did superb jobs on each.

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    posted 06-06-2000 12:55 PM PT (US)     

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    Let's see.

    Obsession
    Taxi Driver
    Under The Volcano
    Cross Creek
    King Kong Lives
    Iceman
    Return to Oz
    Dragonslayer
    Swing Kids
    Old Gringo
    Quest for Fire
    Chaplin
    Enemy Mine
    The Adventures of Baron Munchausen
    The Boy Who Could Fly
    Blade Runner
    Magdelena
    We're no Angels

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    posted 06-06-2000 02:20 PM PT (US)     

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    Hmm...

    "Rob Roy" (Burwell)
    "Mimic" (Beltrami)
    "The Stars Fell on Henrietta" (Benoit)
    "Mrs. Winterbourne" (Doyle)
    "The River Wild" (Goldsmith)
    "The Phantom" (D. Newman)
    "How to Steal a Million" (Williams)

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    posted 06-06-2000 02:43 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by SBD:
    SPACEBALLS by John Morris. A great score for an excellent comedy.

    Yeah. Unfortunately, there's only about 10 minutes of score on the album.

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    posted 06-06-2000 03:13 PM PT (US)     

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    Hey Dantoris, there's a boot of Bernstein's score to Slipstream. I personally have it and it's great.

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    posted 06-06-2000 04:21 PM PT (US)     

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    JJH, AT PLAY IN THE FIELDS OF THE LORD was available at one time on CD, but I have not seen it in ages.

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    posted 06-07-2000 08:52 AM PT (US)     

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    Really Hard Target? Could you burn me a copy? I'd be willing to trade? Send me your e-mail, I'll send you a list of what I have, and maybe we can work something out.

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    posted 06-07-2000 10:09 AM PT (US)     

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    And here's another one I always loved, though I have not heard it in ages. I don't think it has ever been released, but it was also one of those "seminal" stepping stone scores for my career as a film score collector. It should qualify as a truly less known score (I've never seen it discussed in film score forums at all) and it certainly is a favorite of mine:
    William Lava's THE GOOD GUYS AND THE BAD GUYS

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    posted 06-23-2000 12:28 PM PT (US)     

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    Nicolai!

    "Marshall Flagg, Marshall Flagg
    He does something and his footsteps drag
    Younger folks keep makin' jokes
    They'll be laughin' at Marshall Flagg"

    I remember that from a TV screening of twenty years ago, so the lyrics are far from accurate ("He does something"...?), but I remember it like that.

    I also seem to remember a badly composed (photographically) shot, in which someone stood behind Robert Mitchum with a burning torch and it looked like his head was on fire. Or maybe Robert Mitchum wasn't in it. I can't be bothered to check.

    William Lava! Tell us something about him, John Winfrey! I think he contributed some library music to old Columbia films...


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    posted 06-23-2000 01:55 PM PT (US)     

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    I wouldn't say half the scores above are "lesser known scores" would you?
    Anyway, one of my faves that springs to mind is "The Swimmer" by Marvin Hamlisch...a movie from 1968 starring Burt Lancaster with great theme and score...anyone have that one? Gae NP Spirit of St. Louis (Waxman)

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    posted 06-23-2000 03:01 PM PT (US)     

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    As mentioned above:

    The Dark Crystal
    Mountains of the Moon
    DragonSlayer

    All three of these are favorites of mine in the "lesser known" category. A few others:

    SpaceCamp
    The Final Countdown
    Time After Time
    Young Sherlock Holmes

    SpaceCamp especially is a fave of mine. It's a Williams score. Every time I listen to it I keep thinking of what he could do with a Star Trek score.

    Chris Harben
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    posted 06-23-2000 09:18 PM PT (US)     
     

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