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    Topic:   Indecision

     Rang
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    "Indecision" - ever suffer from it?

    While surveying my local Tower Records today (they don't sell records anymore as far as I know; why don't they just call themselves Tower Music or something?), I had Elfman's A CIVIL ACTION in mind to purchase, but the first Tower had none, and sadly (ring the bell), the second likewise. At the first Tower, though, DINOSAUR was on sale for a mere $9.99, brand new, unopened, etc. Nice deal. And while Howard's score was OK in the film, it wasn't one that I was salivating at getting my hands on, but for a mere $9.99, I did just that; I had the CD in my hands, contemplating the pro's and con's of getting DINOSAUR. And initially, I was going to get it, but then I hesitated... sure, a mere $9.99 isn't going to bankrupt me, but was it a score I really wanted, even for a mere $9.99? My hesitation turned into traveling to the second Tower without DINOSAUR as company.

    Now, like I said before, A CIVIL ACTION was taking a temporary vacation from the second Tower as well, so that was a potential purchase immediately canceled from consideration. But then INSTINCT, another Elfman score, came to mind. I've been meaning to get it sometime, but have purchased other scores instead. This time, I thought about it, but I decided to look around a little. There was THE STRAIGHT STORY by Badalamenti which was saying pleasant sweet nothings to me, and while that also is one I would like to get sometime, I told it later, later, not now, sorry. Patrick Doyle is one of my favorite composers, and so while I assume his score for LOVE'S LABOUR'S LOST most likely wouldn't have disappointed me, I made a conscious decision to wait on the soundtrack until I've seen the film (yes, the songs made me reconsider, and 99.9% of the time, I like to see the film first). Howard's SNOW FALLING ON CEDARS also fell into this category; a score I'm very interested in, but I'd like to see the film beforehand (or would it be a film I'm very interested in, which in turn, has sparked interest in the score...). Add to this another handful of soundtracks that I thought about, but then decided I'd wait on.

    So, I went back to Elfman's INSTINCT. Held it a little, then put it back hesitantly and looked around again. I knew it was either going to be INSTINCT or nothing, and I wasn't sure I really wanted to get INSTINCT right then, though eventually I'd like too. I was throwing this all around in my head a little, and was about to walk out of Tower with my head lowered (ring the bell, just one more time, please!) when I noticed a card in the soundtrack section that read:

    CONAN THE DESTROYER

    I thought to myself, Basil Poledouris does the music to that. Yes sir, he sure does. I kept saying to myself (in my head, naturally), Basil... Basil... Basil... ah ha!
    CONAN THE BARBARIAN is a great score, surely CONAN THE DESTORYER, while not as great, would be a satisfying compliment? Well, when I see the film, I'll get back to you on that. No, it made me think of Basil, and then his score to THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER, which I have on tape (my brother's, actually), though not on CD. I've been looking for it for sometime now, but haven't stumbled upon a copy. And this second Tower never has it (to my best memory, at least, though they do have a card for it). So I looked in the "H" section, and to my great surprise, IT WAS THERE!!!

    It's been about six hours now since I purchased Basil Poledouris' thrilling score to THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER. Haven't listened to it yet, since I was watching the Pacers - Knicks game, and then I went and rented some videos, but I've heard it before (and I've seen the film), and I know it was an excellent buy.

    Please forward your disgruntled comments if you've read through all this ramblin' and found it a complete waste of your time and patience, or tell everyone if you suffer from a similar problem of indecision when visiting your local music store (or if you order online or through mail order catalogues, or if you buy your music through every single media currently available). The basic problem I see is that with so much music readily available for purchase, how is it even remotely possible to get everything that interests you? I guess how I get around this is by getting those that I REALLY WANT, but even then, there are leftovers! And while I have gotten into the habit of writing-in-stone what I'm planning on getting before I go to a music store, sometimes it doesn't seem to work. And this is where my indecision comes into play.

    PS - I am not obsessed, but this was kind of fun getting it all out of my system.

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    posted 05-31-2000 11:09 PM PT (US)     

     dantoris
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    I've done that before. I'll find two scores I want, but only have enough money for one. One time, I found three scores that I desperately wanted, but I only had enough money for . . . one!! You can probably imagine what I was going through. Eventually, I had to break down and waste a good 35 cents to call my mom and ask her if I could use my credit card to get all three. (I keep an extra card with me, but it's supposed to be used only in emergencies, like if there's something at the college I need last-minute and don't have cash). It took awhile of convincing, but she gave in. In return, I had to keep the card buried deep in my wallet for awhile, so that it would not tempt me into buying too many scores at one time.

    But I know what you're going through, man. I'm sure we've all been there.

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    posted 05-31-2000 11:19 PM PT (US)     

     S Smith
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    That's funny dantoris.

    If I ever run across multiple scores I wanna buy, I just whip out the plastic. Not something I'm proud of, but I don't do it all the time either. And sometimes discretion wins out, and I just get one.

    What about this one? You go into a store, not really looking to buy anything, and you run across one, two, or more CDs you want. I walked into Tower once just for the fun of it, and walked out $70 poorer.

    But I can quit anytime I want.

    NP: Carter Burwell: "Conspiracy Theory"

    [This message has been edited by S Smith (edited 31 May 2000).]

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    posted 05-31-2000 11:24 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    I always kick myself when I buy the WRONG score. I can't believe some of the garbage I've picked up just because it was there and it was cheap, and the same money could have gone towards something better -- this reminds me that I STILL don't have that supercheap copy of Brian May's MAD MAX. (I hope it'll be there when I get back. I never walk into used CD stores anymore unless I have a lot of money to spend, it's just too damned painful to have to turn my back on one gem or another ...)

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    posted 06-01-2000 12:29 AM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    Rocco is right once again. I'll go for some cheap stuff at the used shop and get it home, find it's pretty bland, and wish I'd saved the money for other stuff. But those are the breaks---and you've got to take some chances now and again---I found Portrait of a Lady in the used bin and that turned me on to Kilar.

    The real regret is turning down stuff that never showed up again as I'm sure we've all had experience with. So maybe it's best to just buy, buy, buy. But I have to be a bit more judicious with my pocketbook unfortunately.

    NP: Escape Me Never (Erich Wolfgang Korngold) from the Rhino EWK-The Warner Yrs.

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    posted 06-01-2000 02:45 AM PT (US)     

     Hard Target
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    Indecision is the most common thing amongst us in our community lol. And also a very bad thing at times since we buy scores that we thought were good and then you bring them home and they turn out to be crap. I've made that mistake many a time. But when I go splurging here in Greenwich Village, I find really good stuff. Some days I find a ton of truely excellent scores that I wouldn't expect to find on any other day. And there were times that I've put back scores that I regret not getting. Like one time I saw a brand new copy of Carter Burwell's Assassin(s) for 12.99 and it was an import. So I decided to go back the next day to get it and it was gone. Stupid, Stupid. I should've bought it that day I saw it and regret it now since it's outtaprint. That sucks!!

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    posted 06-01-2000 08:46 PM PT (US)     

     Lonely Guy
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    Hey S Smith!
    You wouldn't, by any chance, be STEPHEN C. SMITH, author of the Herrmann biography?

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    posted 06-01-2000 10:07 PM PT (US)     

     S Smith
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    Oh that I were. Sorry to disappoint you. I'm just one of the other Steven Smiths in the world. There's only a few of us you know.

    NP: "Fits of Passion" (A Starbucks compilation of Celtic music)

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    posted 06-01-2000 10:15 PM PT (US)     

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    lol - you should see me in tower records (they do still sell vynil records. and cds are records to - just in a different format)
    anyway. what i do is i go through evey CD in the entire scoundtrack section - flipping past each case with my nimble little fingers - and pick up any CD that i might possibly fathom getting. so by the time i reach the end i usually have a stck of about 10 CDs. then i sift through all the ones i have picked up and choos only enough i have the money for - which i usually pay with a check card or cash so when i say i will only buy 2 CDs i usually end up gettin 4. then i put the discarded ones back in their spot and purchase. scary huh
    MP - running free

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    posted 06-02-2000 02:44 AM PT (US)     

     Camillu
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    On Tuesday I went to my local store because Virgin was sold out of Gladiator.

    Sure enough I found it. I usually try to minimise on spending, since I'm a student. But I had seen the film on Monday and decided it would be my Full Price June buy (I get quite a few second hand scores).

    I found gladiator and was walking out when I saw Stargate (Arnold) for Lm4.75 (around $11.00)

    Now the range of scores available in malta is very limited, and in fact this was the only record shop on the island having a decent range, AND THIS WAS THE LAST COPY. So naturally, this was the only Stargate on the island, and it's now in my D: drive.


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    posted 06-02-2000 04:08 AM PT (US)     

     Rang
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    Cole, when I have enough time, I do the same thing when going to music stores - just flip through practically everything in the soundtrack section. Sometimes I do this for the same reason you gave, especially when I have no idea what I really want (which is rare, generally, since I usually have an idea), but mainly because you can often find scores out of order, especially in the compilation section. Sometimes some real gems appear as apparitions that have been misplaced, such as Waxman's THE BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN, which I found in the compilation section (and which of cource, I decided against, went back later to get, and was sadly disappointed to see it gone).

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    posted 06-02-2000 11:36 AM PT (US)     

     Thor
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    First, I'm a student as camillu, living off of student loans only (which isn't much, I can tell ya). So I'm basically poor.

    Second, CD prices in Norway are among (or THE) highest in the world, going at about $25 for a regular, new commercial soundtrack release.

    Third, the selection is usually extremely poor. There's no respect for the art form in this country, and "song compilations" usually fill up 90% of the soundtrack section.

    Because of these three reasons (and more), indecision is never really a problem for me. It is so offputting to walk into CD stores as soon as I see those prices and poor selection, that these qualms escape me somewhat.

    However, I have of course experienced what you're talking about - especially at times when it is a sale in a chain store or in a used record store and when a potential store purchase is a possibility (you see, most of the time I do business online since that is cheaper - even including shipping).

    I think us soundtrack afficionados are in a tougher position than other music buffs here - basically because new scores are coming out all the time - even reissues of old ones. And if you have a wide a taste as me (I like everything from the golden era to the present - including atonality, jazz, synth/orchestral blends, romantic etc.), well, then indecision is always present...

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    posted 06-05-2000 05:35 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Ah! Indecision! My greatest trouble when entering a CD store, but a blessing for the store (read on to find out why).

    Firstly, I'm a student, but I have a job, too. In fact, I now have even two jobs. But I've always been buying CDs, even if I nearly didn't have the money (when the Star Wars special edition CDs came out, I had my mother give me my pocket money for the next month in advance - at the beginning of the previous month). Now that I'm earning not so little money, I'm fortunately (?) still as reluctant to spend more money on CDs as I've always been.

    So, in Vienna, the CD stores' soundtrack sections are probably comparable to what Thor described. But that's exactly the problem. Once I enter a CD store, it's nearly impossible to leave without a new CD. Often, when a new CD comes out in America, I regularely check the stores if it's already arrived in Vienna. Of course, it hasn't. So, what else do they have? And I'll find 2 or 3 CDs that MIGHT interest me, but I have never picked up because I wasn't sure about them. So, most of the time I'll end up getting a CD and hoping that it'll turn out to be the right decision. Often, I'll be disappointed, but nearly always, everything turns out to be allright after repeated listenings. I remember getting Planet of the Apes and Alien on the same day (along with 2 other scores), and being shocked. I kept playing them over and over again to accomodate to the music, and I still think that my getting ill at that time was supported by the strange music. But I soon started to like Alien. POTA was tougher, I wasn't really fascinated by it until I was the film.

    And then there are CDs which I always find, pick them up, look at them, and put them back because I want to have them, but don't want to pay the full price. Of course, I will never find them cheaper, so some months later I'll pick them up anyway (when I find nothing else at the store to get, see above). This happened, among others, with Total Recall and Basic Instinct.

    And of course there are those CDs where I'm not sure, so I don't buy them. And when I decide that I should get them after all, they're gone. I once saw Small Soldiers very cheap, but didn't get it because I already had Fierce Creatures and Wrath of Khan - and after leaving the store, I went to the other store where I bought the above mentioned Alien and POTA. The next day I decided to get Small Soldiers too, but it was gone.

    Sorry for writing so much.

    NP: Essential Goldsmith

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    posted 06-05-2000 06:08 AM PT (US)     

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    Indecision! I think it is a problem for most if not all of us at one point or another. My motto is, too many scores, too little time. Not to mention too little money.

    Anyway, I buy from online stores most of the time. So I usually have an idea what I want. But the times I am not sure, I can take as long as other have mentioned. When I do shop at a retail store, I will start with the A's then flip through all the discs to the Z's.
    However I don't pick any discs up, I just remember the ones I think I might want, or I'll stick them in the front of the rack. That way when I go through to pick what I might want, It is easier if there were several choices.

    My main way to make choosing easier is to listen to samples first and to listen to what the rest of you have to say. Hearing what you all think has helped me incredibly with my choices.

    So Thanks!

    Regards,
    Sean Robert Abbey

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    posted 06-06-2000 12:39 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    quote:
    Originally posted by sabbey:
    My main way to make choosing easier is to listen to samples first and to listen to what the rest of you have to say.

    Somehow I'm reluctant to listen to samples if I don't know a score that was recommended to me. I like to be surprised, although it's risky.

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    posted 06-06-2000 04:59 AM PT (US)     

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    Well you have a point. Although IMO, listening to a few 30 second samples does not hurt. Sure you'll be less surprised as to what type of music it is when you get it, though seeing as it is such an small part of the score. There is plenty left to be surprised at.

    Not to say I'll buy a score that I have not heard any of the music, just that in some cases it can help to get an small sample before spending your money.

    I also listen to the suites at Soundtracks - The Epic Sound. That has cost me a lot of money right there. Since most all great and have wanted to get the CD.

    Regards,
    Sean Robert Abbey

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    posted 06-06-2000 07:21 PM PT (US)     
     

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