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    Topic:   If you could compose...

     Scott
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    Probably a silly question, but if you were the wish to be able to compose as any composer that you choose, who would it be?

    For me it would be John Williams.

    Yet, perhaps best of all, I would like to mix it up. Be able to orchestrate and be as melodic as Williams; write action music like Goldsmith and be as versatile and humble as Aaron Collins. Wow, now that would be cool....


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    posted 05-28-2000 01:52 PM PT (US)     

     TimT
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    Well I don't think I'd want to sound like anyone else, but I'd definetly have the modern composer sound.

    Hellraiser II (Christopher Young)

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    posted 05-28-2000 01:59 PM PT (US)     

     dantoris
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    I'd probably have a good career in low-budget horror/sci-fi, seeing as how that's about all I can do with my Yamaha. Perhaps I'd be the next John Carpenter if I had some really good synths.

    But if I could cut loose with an orchestra, I think I'd do pretty well. I've come up with a couple themes I would love to hear conducted by an orchestra, with timpani, strings, brass, and symbals.

    Most of my themes (away from horror/sci-fi) seem to be heroic ones.

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    posted 05-28-2000 02:08 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Hehe, I think I could write some not-so-bad stuff, but my problem is that I can't come up with any themes.

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    posted 05-28-2000 02:55 PM PT (US)     

     Al
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    Marian,

    So are you saying that you would compose like Thomas Newman?

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    posted 05-28-2000 03:42 PM PT (US)     

     Cole
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    lol that was low!!!

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    posted 05-28-2000 04:15 PM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    If I could compose, I would want to be able to have some strange mix of Bernard Herrmann and Carter Burwell to score dark pictures.

    NP -- Carter Burwell compilation, Fear just ended. On to a cut from Being John Malkovich

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    posted 05-28-2000 04:47 PM PT (US)     

     James
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    I'd try to compose like me.

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    posted 05-28-2000 07:24 PM PT (US)     

     Al
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    I'm with James. If any of you guys compose, try to compose like yourselves. That's what I would want to hear. The influences will sneak into the compositions anyway.

    As for JJH, Herrmann and Burwell would make a great mix! What is this Burwell compilation?

    NP: Harvey's "Animal Farm"

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    posted 05-28-2000 08:23 PM PT (US)     

     Richard
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    A combination of Danny Elman, Hans Zimmer, Carter Burwell, Thomas Newman and Bernard Herrmann, and a spot of James Horner every now and again.

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    posted 05-28-2000 11:35 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Hm, I'd probably try to have a bit of Bruckner's religious sound, but not too much, just a bit.

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    posted 05-29-2000 04:25 AM PT (US)     

     Andre Lux
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    Definitly Jerry Goldsmith and Ennio Morricone.

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    posted 05-29-2000 05:41 AM PT (US)     

     sabbey
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    Well in my case, I'd have to say Jerry Goldsmith. However an cross between all my favorite composers would be ideal.

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    posted 05-29-2000 03:11 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Well... I'd definitely not want to compose like Jerry Goldsmith. I feel that might take the pleasure out of listening to his music! Enjoying someone else's talents and those talents not being your own is all part of the enjoyment. It's admiration at its finest.

    I'm with James on this one... I'd compose like *me,* though who knows what that would sound like. Hopefully it would be something people wouldn't criticize too heavily.

    Jeron

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    posted 05-29-2000 05:04 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    Anybody who starts out writing or playing music of ANY kind is going to be influenced by someone else -- same thing with writing prose or poetry. The trick is to write ENOUGH words or notes to start FINDING OUT what your own voice is. There are any number of professional A-list film composers out there right now who haven't really done that (no names, please).

    I've written some things over the years -- piano, percussion ensembles -- and know how thoroughly derivative they are. But I also know that I'm not sufficiently dedicated to composing music to really buckle down and write and write and write until I've found something to say. I may NOT have much to say, musically.

    On the other hand, I WOULD like to try a big orchestral score, just once, maybe twice ... I do have some ideas I'd love to hear played. All extremely Goldsmith-Williams derivative, I'm afraid, but one could do worse than sounding like those two, and I think it's precisely the sound this particular picture wants (no, I'm not going to tell you what it is.)

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    posted 05-29-2000 08:35 PM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    This is an interesting topic. I'm sure that a lot of us listening to film music or watching films fantasizes about having a crack at this job.

    I don't know who I'd sound like--I'd just hope my love themes were as pretty as Barry's and Delerue's, that my dramatic cues had the guts of Rozsa, Herrmann, or Tiomkin. I'd also hope I had a dramatic sense, an inner knowing of just what music would best enhance an image or story. I'd think of the two audiences--the one watching the film in the theater and the other at home listening to CDs and try to find a music that worked in both locations (sure the film would come first but to compose a nothingness that couldn't be played elsewhere seems as much an insult to the film as it does to music). I'd hope for real talent to move people--I'd want to be good at it.

    Actually, I CAN compose. There's a performance of my music every day for 15 minutes while I'm in the shower, but I wouldn't advise anyone with a weak stomach or sense of taste to listen to this stuff. Unfortunately, we sometimes have to listen to the works of people who can't compose either (Horner, MV) but haven't the same humility to bow out and leave the work to those who can.

    What's with me today? I can't post anything without slamming these people. Both Horner and Zimmer have written scores I like quite a bit. Think Star Trek II and Beyond Rangoon. There, I'm on the road back to niceness. But wait, up ahead, there's MI2 and Deep Impact. Oh no! I'm not gonna make it, my land rover meets an impasse....

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    posted 05-30-2000 01:11 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Andre Lux:
    Definitly Jerry Goldsmith and Ennio Morricone.

    Getting off-topic... The Special Effects IMAX film recently premiered in Vienna, coupled with an exhibition about films and special fx, and I went to see both yesterday. While the exhibition wasn't too overwhelming, I was positively surprised to see a part about film music. Several parts of the exhibition were interactive, and in the case of film music, you could watch 4 different movie scenes (from Vertigo, ID4, Romeo & Juliet and...err...forgot the last one). For every one of these, you had 4 different choices of music, one being the original score and the other 3 being other music. Playing Carmen's famous Aria over the museum sequence from Vertigo or "Gabriel's Oboe" during the arrival of the alien spaceship in ID4 was really funny.

    NP: Man in the Iron Mask (it was a present)
    Ok, if I were a composer, I would NOT compose like Nick Glennie-Smith. Simply because so far, I haven't found anything original in this score, just MANY familiar melodies.

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    posted 05-30-2000 04:32 AM PT (US)     

     mlw
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    Well, if some new composer came up to me with something that sounded like Goldsmith/Williams he'd probably get fired.

    Definitely get canned if he tried to be the next Kid Rock like in this one vacuous big event sequel flic this last weekend.

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    posted 05-30-2000 02:06 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    what COULD you be talking about, Mr. Ware ...

    NP: WAR OF THE GARGANTUAS (Akira Ifukube) (I wouldn't even dare to try to sound like him -- he'd catch it in an instant, assuming I could even get him to listen to whatever I did, he's got better stuff to do)

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    posted 05-30-2000 10:31 PM PT (US)     

     Thor
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    Actually, I think I've been closer to a manifestation of this than some of you. About a month ago, I had a dream. It was one of my musical dreams (like I'm sure some of you have as well), in which I heard (and saw) an orchestra perform my music as it was composed in my head (now that would save time in post-production, wouldn't it?).

    The music that came out was part oompah Danny Elfman, part subdued Williams - with an occasional Goldsmith ostinato - and tagged on to the end was a massive choral conclusion in the SHADOWS OF THE EMPIRE-mode. Interspersed with this was small band Mancini-pop that segued in and out of orchestral outbursts.

    These are the times you wish you'd learned how to write music...

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    posted 05-31-2000 06:56 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    You mean you could remember MELODIES after waking up? Wow!

    NP: The Omen: The Essential Jerry Goldsmith Film Music Collection (The Shadow)

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    posted 05-31-2000 09:53 AM PT (US)     

     Marcelo Ferreyra
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    I, as James, try to compose like me.
    But I have influences as everybody else.
    Just to name a few...
    Herrmann, Rosenmann, Rugolo, Johnson etc.

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    posted 05-31-2000 10:29 AM PT (US)     

     Thor
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    Marian: Yeah, the main body of the music (or theme), but not the entire piece, of course. Haven't you had one of these dreams?

    BTW, whatever happened to the "dream" thread? I just loved that....

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    posted 06-02-2000 10:26 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Sure, I know that I composed one of the best orchestral works I've ever heard in a dream, but I couldn't remember a single note.

    NP: Nothing, but my burner just ruined another CD-R. Damn.

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    posted 06-02-2000 03:16 PM PT (US)     

     Hector J. Guzman
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    John Williams/Jerry Goldsmith/and me

    NP. The Lost World(Johnny boy)

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    posted 06-02-2000 04:43 PM PT (US)     

     Sean Bires
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    I'd steal Nivek Ogre's or Trent Reznor's synthesizer skills, and use it for film music, hehe

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    posted 06-03-2000 07:07 AM PT (US)     
     

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