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Topic: "Godzilla vs. Space Godzilla" score

dantoris

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I caught the end of this film on AMC last night, and I couldn't believe how good the score was. I'm not a huge Godzilla fan, so I don't know if the scores were re-done for the American-version of the film(s), but it anybody knows if this score is available, please tell me.It was very good.
posted 05-27-2000 03:05 PM PT (US) 
joan hue

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I don't know if it is available. H'ness would know. I, like you, caught the last half of it and was very impressed with the music and orchestations. I looked it up on IMDb and noted Takayuki Hattori wrote the music.NP More Leonard Bernstein
posted 05-27-2000 04:05 PM PT (US) 
Mark Olivarez

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It was available at one time. Footlight Records show it available in their cataloge. There was a single disc and a two disc set. The score has a few cues that sound very similar to John Barry's YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE.
If you want my opinion buy GNP Godzilla vol 2. It has the highlites from the score. I'm not too found of this particular score. I guess I'm to used to Ifukube's style. I'm just not used to anyone other than him providing the music for the big G.
posted 05-27-2000 04:46 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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Mark - Could this be what you're talking about, The Best Of Godzilla 1984-1995? I found this over at Amazon, and it has 30 tracks.Or is this a completely different album from the one you mentioned?
posted 05-27-2000 05:58 PM PT (US) 
Mark Olivarez

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That should be the one. I think it is taken directly from the Japanese version released on their Futureland label. It has the main themes from SpaceGodzilla, including one that sounds like YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE. If you don't have any of the Godzilla cds, I would recommend both volumes. Vol 1 is 1954 to 1975. Like I said they are on the GNP Crescendo label so that should help.[This message has been edited by Mark Olivarez (edited 27 May 2000).]
posted 05-27-2000 06:03 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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dantoris, if you liked the score that much, I recommend buying the SINGLE disc -- not merely because it's cheaper, but because the DOUBLE-disc will include a whole second disc devoted to the music "as heard in the film" -- i.e. with drop-outs, jump cuts, abrupt edits of all kinds. It'll be a waste of time and money. The single disc will have everything you need.Derivative as it is, and as much as I hate the SPACE GODZILLA movie (the worst in the whole Japanese series -- the only worse movie with the Godzilla name on it is the 1998 American version), the score is decent outside the film. Composed by Takayuki Hattori, who also did GODZILLA MILLENNIUM (in theaters this summer as GODZILLA 2000). SPACE GODZILLA struck me as being too Hornerish and Barryish within the movie, but those very qualities make it a decent listen outside it.
Akira Ifukube's "Enter Godzilla" theme is heard once in the film and on the disc, for, what else, Godzilla's entrance (it seems to take him half an hour to get from the water to the beach, though, and is succeeded by that faintly silly bongo music.)
Indeed, as stated above, last time I was at Footlights, they still carried the single disc. Knock yourself out.
NP: BEN-HUR (on PBS) (letterboxed!)
posted 05-27-2000 06:36 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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Thanks, Rocco. I didn't know you were a Godzilla afficianado until I read Joan's comment, "H'ness would know." But thanks for the info.By the way, Rocco: What did you think of Elia Cmiral's score for Battlefield Earth? We were about the only ones talking about it before it's release. I wrote a review for it here on MovieMusic, but it has yet to come up. Just wondering what you thought of it.
posted 05-27-2000 06:50 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Easily the best thing about the movie ... which isn't saying much, I know. (You can see MY longer review at the BATTLEFIELD EARTH thread under "Just Movies.") It was a good score, though; I'd rate it above most David Arnold scores, for instance. (The only Arnold score I really like is STARGATE, actually.)I liked the vastness and loudness of Cmiral's music, and thought it was well mixed into the final picture. I kindof wished it had had more of a tune, but it's still an ownable score. There are other albums more important for me to have right now, though. Well, if I find it for cheap enough ... finances are looking up a bit lately, actually.
posted 05-27-2000 06:58 PM PT (US) 
mlw
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Hattori's a bore. No identity. Spacegodzilla reeks of soundtrackyness. At least someone like Hisashi seems to make things personal. People are actually giving it up to watch Cornfield Earth?
posted 05-27-2000 08:15 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Not too MANY are. Come on, it's the funniest movie of the year so far.Hattori's Godzilla stuff is disturbingly Hollywoodish, but competently crafted. I think my reaction to the SPACE GODZILLA disc was more a question of "hey, I didn't hate this as much as I remembered." I would never have heard it if it hadn't been given to me. I think a better example of what his real voice is might be heard in THE RADIO HOUR. His grandfather, Tadashi Hattori, was another competent pasticheur -- the best of the earlier composers Kurosawa worked with, even though what Kurosawa wanted from him was dramatically a bit doubtful (Kurosawa didn't learn to trust music until he hooked up with Fumio Hayasaka -- his one interim experiment with the great Ifukube, THE QUIET DUEL, was mutually disastrous, and he went straight back to Hayasaka and, later, Sato.) Anyway, as far as Takayuki Hattori, I consider the jury to be out for now. THE RADIO HOUR showed some promise.
Yesterday I saw KIKUJIRO'S SUMMER, the new Takeshi Kitano picture. (Released here simply as KIKUJIRO, who knows why.) Surprisingly sweet and sentimental by his standards. Also interesting to see him write himself a role where he has so much dialogue, and hey, only TWO scenes where he beats up complete strangers. I'll write a longer piece about this over at "Just Movies" tomorrow or the next day (or maybe never, I'm peculiar that way.)
Anyway, I thought of it because you mentioned Jo Hisaishi (or Joe, as he spells it in English, although if you tried to write Joe literally in Japanese it would sound like "Jo-ay.") Hisaishi has scored most of Takeshi's pictures, and he approaches this one with sympathy and restraint -- I shudder to think what kind of syrupy mess your average Japanese soundtrack hack would have done with it (the Japanese scoring situation is probably worse than it's been since the forties, with Hisaishi probably at the top of a very small heap of competents. I leave Ifukube out of this estimation because he's done barely a dozen pictures in the last quarter-century.)
It bothers me that more and more Japanese film scores are sounding more and more Hollywoodish ... the tyranny of the temp track is overtaking Tokyo as well, perhaps. Ko Otani's vibrant music for GAMERA, GUARDIAN OF THE UNIVERSE serves the picture ideally, yet reminded me a bit too much of STARGATE, though the references are subtler than any of those Arnold made to earlier scores in STARGATE itself. (Never mind Otani's finale, which is right out of JURASSIC PARK.) And the three recent MOTHRA pictures sport music that highlights EVERYTHING that's characteristically wrong with Japanese film music across the board ... oh never mind, none of you know what I'm talking about.
posted 05-27-2000 09:57 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
