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    Topic:   Music Fading in Movie?

     Marian Schedenig
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    Do you also hate it if in a movie, the music fades to make place for a particular sound effect or something similar? Like in the opening titles of Dragonheart, when that stupid fire sound is played. Also, Pete Postlethwaite's voice-over at the finale ruins the end of the sequence.

    NP: Dragonheart (DVD) just finished

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    posted 05-18-2000 02:16 PM PT (US)     

     TimT
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    Well the thing is, they don't actually expect you to even notice the music.

    NP- Trapped in Paradise (Robert Folk) 5/5

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    posted 05-19-2000 05:39 PM PT (US)     

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    Well the sad truth is you're probably 100% right. I doubt hardly anyone who makes the big decisions in Hollywood care about the music. It's just an way to make even more money. However at the expense of the film if you ask me.

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    Sean Robert Abbey

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    posted 05-19-2000 06:38 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Yeah, but the point is: The two examples I was talking about are sequences where you HAVE to notice the music, even if you don't care. The opening titles to Dragonheart are 90% music.

    I guess they just found it cool to add this sound effect.

    NP: The Edge (Goldsmith)

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    posted 05-20-2000 04:10 AM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    oh well, part "The Map Room" cue in Raiders of the Lost Ark is masked by that sound effect. It ruins the coolest part of track where I believe the brass are reaching that climax.

    The thing I hate most is when the music cuts off suddenly. You could be listening to a nice melody in a film, and the editor switches to another scene so abruptly, rather than let the music reach a cadence, they have to cut off the music.

    NP -- Bringing Out the Dead DVD just stopped. This is one fine movie, if a bit on the SLOW side.

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    posted 05-20-2000 10:09 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    quote:
    Originally posted by JJH:
    The thing I hate most is when the music cuts off suddenly. You could be listening to a nice melody in a film, and the editor switches to another scene so abruptly, rather than let the music reach a cadence, they have to cut off the music.

    I was VERY annoyed at the finale of Lost World. Well, the whole movie was annoying, but during the San Diego sequence, I had the feeling that it couldn't reach an end as fast as the music. And what happened? After the music's climax, they re-played the last 2 minutes or so. If the whole sequence wouldn't have been bad anyway, this would have ruined it.

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    posted 05-21-2000 06:38 AM PT (US)     

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    JJH, usually when that happens it's because a shot may have lasted longer in the cut the composer scored; it's not fair to just blame the editor, its possible that the shot is more effective in abreviated form, and there wasn't enough time to adjust the score.

    NP- "Hook" by John Williams - Concorde expanded ****
    Concorde also did "Se7en," another superior sounding boot.

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    posted 05-21-2000 03:42 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Or it could indicate a cut that was made after the "final cut" of the movie, mostly for television broadcast. If they are not visible, you can often hear them.

    NP: Nothing, just watched Primal Fear, which really impressed be. However, this time the lowbrows from the TV station didn't only cut off the credits, but 3 seconds before the movie's end they displayed a sponsorship commercial, the the remaining 3 seconds, and then the replacement credits with TV preview.

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    posted 05-21-2000 05:50 PM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    TBS doesn't allow anyone to hear the end credits music anymore.

    instead, they show previews to their upcoming "events."

    very annoying.

    NP -- Planet of the Apes, "The Hunt"

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    posted 05-21-2000 05:55 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    In Austria & Germany, you can hear the end credits on special occasions. Mostly for Austrian or German movies (but again, very seldom). Also, if you can see something in the background of the credits text (instead of a simple black screen), they sometimes show them. When the background fades, the credits are killed as well.

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    posted 05-21-2000 06:00 PM PT (US)     
     

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