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    Topic:   Roy Budd cds...which one(s) to get?

     Bel366
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    Okay, the five Roy Budd soundtracks from Castle Music's "Cinephile" imprint came into the store today and at $11.97 each, they seem worth the risk, but which one? The only one of the films I have seen is SINBAD AND THE EYE OF THE TIGER. The other titles are:
    THE BLACK WINDMILL, DIAMONDS, GET CARTER and PAPER TIGER (which is a film I must track down! [Toshiro Mifune, Hardy Kruger AND David Niven in the same film...wow!]).

    Anyway, I have heard good things about Mr. Budd, so I thought I would ask. Thanks.

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    posted 05-16-2000 01:17 PM PT (US)     

     Gae
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    I have the Roy Budd "Cinephile sampler" which I really like and also the"Get Carter" soundtrack. If you like funky/punchy 70's scores in a similar style to Schifrin's action scores from that era, then I think you'll like them. "Get Carter" has got some 70's psychadelic-type songs which I dont know whether I like or not and the rest of the score is fairly "quiet"....( I dont know it that well I must admit). Off the "Cinephile sampler" the "Sinbad" score sounds great....really atmospheric and inventive orchestral writing here ( and a great recording-quality). "Paper Tiger" has got a gorgeous old-fashioned and melodious main theme ( alla Legrand's Hannibal Brooks theme) complete with humming voices. Anyway, I'm very pleased with my first encounter of Roy Budd's music...I've always noticed his name in film credits and thought his scores worked well and sounded really gritty and funky. What a shame he died so young....in his 40's I think. Gae


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    posted 05-16-2000 02:51 PM PT (US)     

     Jack
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    I'd go with Get Carter and Black Windmill first. Another the store doesn't have is Fear is the Key (although the chase music is a little marred by sound effects)

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    posted 05-16-2000 07:37 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    For the record, Budd himself thought PAPER TIGER was his own best score. I was never a big fan of his, but I remember liking the main title to ZEPPELIN.

    He got his first job -- he'd never recorded a score in his life -- by taping bits of Goldsmith, Mancini and so on, and passing on the music to the producer, claiming the stuff was his! (He was clever enough not to use main titles or easily identifiable themes.) But once he had to actually WRITE the score, he realized how little technical knowledge he actually had ... he telephoned a friend in a panic in the middle of one night -- "How do you write a viola clef?" The friend didn't know either.

    All those stories from Budd himself, told to SOUNDTRACK! magazine in 1984 or so. He was a cheerful fellow and didn't take himself too seriously. I was surprised that he died so young.

    Oh yes, his favorite film score was Goldsmith's THE CHALLENGE.

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    posted 05-16-2000 08:24 PM PT (US)     

     THE GREEK
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    Roy Budd is in my opinion one of the most essential composers if you want to explore the cinematic sound of the 70ies.He was very talented and gifted and i like almost everything he made for the movies.I'd suggest you to start with his funky scores for the films GET CARTER, FEAR IS THE KEY, DIAMONDS, BLACK WINDMILL and THE MARSEILES CONTRACT.Also try his PAPER TIGER score and don't ignore KIDDNAPED and WILD GEESE I and II.

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    posted 05-17-2000 03:24 AM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    Rocco & The Greek said it best--Budd's theme from Zepplin is short but wonderful and is on two different Budd albums--Soldier Blue/Catlow/Zepplin and Birth of the Budd. I like Kidnapped and Eye of the Tiger, but the real gem of all the Budd scores is the military sounding The Wild Geese. Its overture starts similarly to Williams' The Cowboys and the two basic themes (not including a third based on Borodin) are just wonderful. The only disappointment is that it's short.

    NP: King Kong (John Barry)

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    posted 05-19-2000 03:29 AM PT (US)     

     Graham Watt
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    They're all great, if you like that kind of music. Be careful with Get Carter, though: there's a lot of dialogue and not much in the way of typical underscore. My favourite is The Stone Killer. Lalo Schifrin with English breakfast!

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    posted 05-19-2000 02:26 PM PT (US)     

     Bel366
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    Well, I did buy GET CARTER and it's cool, in a "70's" sort of way. The dialogue tracks are tolerable. Kudos must also go to the packaging. The liner notes were terrific and the choice of photos was good as well. And all for $11.97.

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    posted 05-20-2000 03:05 AM PT (US)     
     

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