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Topic: Arachnophobia

H Rocco
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Timchanter, I'm well familiar with Wilson's criminally-related nonfiction. He even published one recently that was coauthored with his son. (And the advertising of which promised coverage of certain murderers that did NOT appear in the finished text, which irritated the hell out of me. There is little enough published about the horrifying Pee-Wee Gaskins, perhaps the worst single person that ever lived. His deranged autobiography "Final Truth" is perhaps the most appalling single text ever published. You've been warned.)Joan, I last saw TARANTULA (1955) about six years ago. I found it mostly boring, but the fake spider sequences were diverting. And one of the funniest movies I've ever seen is the remarkable GIANT SPIDER INVASION (1977), which mixes real normal-size tarantulas with crazy leg-props and insanely stupid big-size props, along with the all-time favorite -- something Stephen King called "the Volkswagen Spider," obviously a car with a spider prop on top of it that takes over a street fair towards the end. It makes EARTH VS. THE SPIDER look like real genius.
I'm less bothered by spiders on the big screen than in person -- that's why I could say, as I did above, that I hoped "Big Bob" in ARACHNOPHOBIA should've been even bigger than he was. I REALLY wanted to be scared out of my skin, that's why I went to see it in the first place. No dice. Although I still remember the thing crawling, advancing over the fallen Jeff Daniels. But the sequence is no viler than the similar bit at the end of INCREDIBLE SHRINKING MAN, and I really hoped they'd up the ante. Although NOTHING will ever top the capper of the original FLY. I could bear to watch ARACHNOPHOBIA again, and even most of the original FLY -- but I'd have to shut it off at a certain point.
I actually like the peculiar melancholy of the original FLY (script by James Clavell, nominally based on a story originally published in Playboy). It's such a SAD story, when it comes down to it. The spider sequence is merely punctuation to something much stranger and sadder.
NP: my mother has the movie SPELLBOUND on
posted 05-17-2000 01:35 PM PT (US) 
Timmer

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Marian,
JAR...spider....SHEET of PAPER!...Easy!!
Your H'
Pee-Wee Gaskins?....sounds interesting?!
I wish we could talk properly here?!,I just don't have the typing speed to really get into this as I would like to.To be honest ,This isn't the place to talk about deranged mind's and mass murderers.
...and on that note I think I'll play John Williams JANE EYRE....Ahhhhh,that's better

posted 05-17-2000 06:20 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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This is NOT the place to get into old Pee-Wee ... anyway, we're fortunate, he's dead now. I officially drop that subject. Although it's weirdly appropriate to this thread, as spiders ARE the serial killers of the insect world (I know, they're arachnids, not insects.)I will never forget, one of my first Hollywood jobs, this guy kept a tarantula in his office. I was there haggling over money the office owed me for gas, and in the middle of it, he decided to drop a cricket or two into the spider's lair. Lunchtime! I WILL NEVER FORGET the dying sounds of the cricket as it disappeared into the tarantula's maw, and even worse than that, the CRUNCHING, the audible CRUNCHING as its carapace was shattered within the mighty jaws. Yeah, everybody has to eat, I know what a slaughterhouse is like, and I'm no vegetarian, but really, that one moment felt like my whole Hollywood career in miniature. I should have left the city then. But NOOO, I had to stick around long enough for the riots and the fires and the earthquakes ... This is what you get for living in a city that was bullied into existence out of the peaceful plains of a lovely little desert.
NP: ONE LITTLE INDIAN (sweet little suite downloaded from DECONSTRUCTING GOLDSMITH)
posted 05-17-2000 07:29 PM PT (US) 
charben
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I'm an arachnaphobe also, but if a spider is in a web, I can deal with it. If it's mobile, it's dead if I can possibly kill it. That large bird spider mentioned earlier isn't a spider--it's a Shadow vessel. Those of you who watched Babylon 5 know what I'm talking about: those huge, spider/crab black organic Shadow starships that rippled in and out of hyperspace and screamed as they flew through space. For an arachnaphobe like me, they were more terrifying than the Shadow aliens themselves. The score to the film Arachnaphobia is quite good, IMO.NP: Young Sherlock Holmes (Rami-Tep ritual)
Chris Harben
Atlantic Beach, FLposted 05-17-2000 07:54 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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quote:
Originally posted by Timmer:
JAR...spider....SHEET of PAPER!...Easy!!That would imply that I'm able to approach the jar, lift it and hold the paper against it. I'm no hero!
posted 05-18-2000 11:46 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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quote:
Originally posted by charben:
NP: Young Sherlock Holmes (Rami-Tep ritual)Aaaaah*. Trying to make me jealous, are you?

*) No, I'm not quoting Monty Python.
posted 05-18-2000 11:53 AM PT (US) 
Andre Lux
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quote:
Originally posted by Timmer:
Marian, JAR...spider....SHEET of PAPER!...Easy!!
You mean... me trying to catch a bird spider with a sheet of paper and a jar??
Geez... just to imagine it my hands began to shake!It must be a better way to kill yourself without so much suffering...

posted 05-18-2000 01:08 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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posted 05-18-2000 04:09 PM PT (US) 
JJH

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Well, I can rest easy now.My apartment was sprayed for bugs today, spiders specifically. yea!
How' bout Williams' music for the tarantulas on Indy's back in Raiders ?
Np -- In Too Deep, Christopher Young, better than I thought it would be, but some fairly average action stuff.
posted 05-18-2000 04:39 PM PT (US) 
Lou Goldberg

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Rocco--I've actually seen Earth Vs The Spider! And then I also got to see the MST 3000 episode of it as well.NP: Outland "The Spiders" (Jerry G)
posted 05-18-2000 10:21 PM PT (US) 
Kris Koon

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Afraid of goats now, too?
http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=87148
posted 05-19-2000 08:28 AM PT (US) 
Thor

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Great, Kris, now I'll NEVER be able to drink goat's milk (not that I would do that in the first place).Re: spiders crawling on/inside mouths:
The incident in France was horrible. I was fully awake at the time, but I've always had a fear of spiders entering the mouth cavity at night while I'm asleep. The mouth is so fragile in those cases - the most fragile of all body openings (okay, enough already - I don't wanna elaborate on that)! I am reminded of the scene in THE ABYSS where that spider/crab thing runs out of the mouth of the drowned body inside the nuclear sub. That picture haunts me time and again.
Oh, and another freakish film spider: The one in Stephen King's IT.
posted 05-19-2000 10:39 AM PT (US) 
Pandoras 2nd Box

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Spiders are kinda cute. I keep a few of them in my garden, just in case, you never know.
Actually I've never been bothered by spiders at all. Mosquitos are annoying, but spiders? I'd never hurt them - as long as they don't hurt me.NP: Something by Aaron Copland
posted 05-19-2000 12:34 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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I read that piece just now. God, how do they think of this stuff?NP: "The Widow's Web" from KRULL ...
actually, the crystal spider, as horrifying as it is, reminds me of something the writer Bill Warren (no, he's not me) said about spiders: he's not bothered by big furry spiders, but rather, by the black widow types. Does anybody else have these categories? (I find them all vile, except the tiny types I already mentioned -- there's something weirdly elegant about those, they're like figurines.)
posted 05-19-2000 12:36 PM PT (US) 
JJH

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the sheer sight of a spider makes me cringe.doesn't matter what type really, though I suppose those black widows do put the fear of God into me. I see a red hourglass, you see a dustcloud behind me.
I really don't have much of a problem with God's creation, but spiders do bug me, obviously, even though I know they have a crucial role in the ecosystem. they're like composers: They may be talented, but you don't have to like 'em, dammit.
posted 05-19-2000 03:24 PM PT (US) 
Timmer

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I had a spider on me this afternoon...no joke!Cool!....I feel lucky!!

NP : some rubbishy TV in the background

posted 05-19-2000 06:10 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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quote:
Originally posted by H Rocco:
Does anybody else have these categories?I fear all spiders, from a certain size on, but Daddy Longlegs are by far the most horrifying. Although they aren't even real spiders.
Timmer: Cool, now Rocco and me won't be able to shake your hand ever.

posted 05-21-2000 06:55 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Strange about Daddy Longlegs (daddies longlegses?) ... my mother, who is now a complete and confirmed arachnophobe, still remembers playing with them in the Tennessee forests of her childhood. She wasn't so bothered then. In a similar vein, I used to play with fireflies, ants and ladybugs. I might still, but you don't see fireflies and ladybugs anymore, and if I see ants in the house, it means it's time to set out the traps.
posted 05-21-2000 02:15 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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quote:
Originally posted by H Rocco:
my mother, who is now a complete and confirmed arachnophobe, still remembers playing with them in the Tennessee forests of her childhood. She wasn't so bothered then.*Shiver* That's scary. Could be made into a really horrifying movie.
NP: Donnie Brasco (Doyle)
posted 05-22-2000 10:17 AM PT (US) 
Rang
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I just had to read (and bring) this thread back up again! I remember when JJH originally posted this back in May; I never clicked on this thread because while I've seen ARACNOPHOBIA once, I don't remember any of Trevor Jones' score. But perhaps, somewhere deeper, I didn't bother checking this thread out because I knew from experience where it could lead. So what do I do? I read the whole freakin' thing! Some of the images brought to the surface here will haunt me for quite sometime.Simply put, spiders can be given ecological credit till Wells' "The Time Traveler" decides to journey home, but they remain the epitome of evil. Wicked, PURE EVIL!!!
I've been bitten by I don't how many; some when I've been sleeping, and some when I've been awake. Two incidents which thankfully I have no memory of happened when I was a wee lad, and they both involved the hour glass monster, miss black widow. From what I've drawn from my parents, the most clear picture I have of one of the vile attacks was when my brother and I were playing out by some wood in the backyard. Apparently, I almost died, but I was quickly rushed to the hospital and all was well.
Needless to say, I love animals, but that love just don't extend to spiders. Hence, I'm sure that the various families that pay free rent in my residence congregate on how to best manuver around my daily and nightly activities, AND THEY STAY OUT OF MY WAY. Honestly, I generally have no problem with them. But if they enter my territory, I will kindly ask someone from my family to kill the evil beast while I wait in safe distance (as I did last night - thanks go out to my sister-in-law). Oh sure, if I'm the only one around, I can gather enough courage to thin 'em out, but I'd rather have someone else do my dirty work.
posted 07-15-2000 07:05 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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quote:
Originally posted by Rang:
But if they enter my territory, I will kindly ask someone from my family to kill the evil beast while I wait in safe distance (as I did last night - thanks go out to my sister-in-law).Yeah, that's the only possible thing to do. Problem is, since last December I live in a flat on my own, so when a spider comes out (fortunately there aren't much here), my only friend is the vacuum cleaner.

NP: Psycho (McNeely recording) - You know, I'd rather have Norman Bates in my living room than a simple spider.
posted 07-15-2000 09:46 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Vacuum cleaners won't help you with one particular North American variety of spider known as the "pillow spider." As you might expect, they're large, soft, and white, and very difficult to tell from regular pillows. You put your head down into the middle of one of those and, well, you can guess the rest.
posted 07-15-2000 10:40 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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