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    Topic:   Howard Blake's "FLASH GORDON": is it good??

     Andre Lux
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    I really enjoy this cheezy movie. Even the Queen score!

    But I'm really curious about Blake's score. Is it good? It's quite I while I've seem the movie, so I can't remember how many of his score was used...

    Anyone got it? What's the track list??

    Any info would be nice!

    Thanks...!!

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    posted 05-08-2000 07:17 PM PT (US)     

     Chris Kinsinger
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    Wow!
    I adore Mike Hodges' Flash Gordon!
    Andre, I don't think it's "cheezy" at all!
    Well, actually it IS cheezy, but it was DESIGNED to be cheezy, and that's one of the reasons I love it so!
    How can you NOT like a movie that features Max von Sydow as Ming the Merciless, and Brian Blessed as a Hawkman???
    Hodges came as close as anyone ever has to duplicating that European Fellini mystique, while maintaining a sharp satirical edge, with tongue firmly planted in cheek.
    There are so many wonderful comic moments in this film, and it's wonderfully cast: Topol as Dr. Zarkov, Ornella Muti as Princess Aura,
    Peter Wyngarde as Klytus, and Timothy Dalton almost steals the movie as Prince Barin! Melody Anderson is almost a throwback to Shirley Temple with her perfectly innocent appeal as Dale Arden, and this impressive cast props up Sam J. Jones...well, you can't have EVERYTHING. Jones is just there, not really an asset, and not quite a liability, thanks to the ensemble of actors who keep him moving forward.
    Gilbert Taylor's cinematography is stunning, and Queen's rocking music keep the film from ever becoming too serious.

    There.
    That's my review.
    I LIKE THIS MOVIE!

    Is there a CD of the score?

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    posted 05-08-2000 08:59 PM PT (US)     

     Brad Wills
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    I've always loved the orchestral score in the film, what was used of it anyway. I found the CD to be a great surprise. The sound is a tad harsh but nothing offensive. I believe that some of the tracks are mislabeled as containing themes composed by Queen such as Dales' Seduction (which I don't think is) and Football Fight (which obviously contains the Queen piano beat, but isn't labeled as such). Other times a specific theme will be identified as being by Queen, like Bell and Coffin (which uses the background music but not the Freddie Mercury vocal), yet when the same theme appears in other tracks, it isn't. But this is quibbly, picky stuff. There's a wealth of great material in the score, most of which went unused.

    1. The Hero 0:41
    2. Opening Scenes/Killer Storm/Plane Crash 7:15
    3. Rocket Fight 1:30
    4. Arrival/Mongo Greeting/Palace Entry/The Court of Ming 3:59
    5. Barin and the Hawkmen 3:14
    6. The Princess/Dale's Seduction/Football Fight 2:13
    7. Bell and Coffin/Zarkov/Rocket Ship Flight 3:20
    8. Flight To Arboria/Harem 2:06
    9. Telepathy/Dale's Drug 2:07
    10. Arboria 0:51
    11. Dale's Fight 1:32
    12. Zarkov and Dale Escape 1:25
    13. Torture/The Swamp 2:11
    14. The City of the Hawkman 1:01
    15. Tree-Stump Duel/Beast in the Swamp 6:00
    16. Romantic Reunion 0:27
    17. Duel on the Sky Platform 7:48
    18. Firefight/Finale: Death of Ming and Flash's Victory 2:37

    Great cover art, too.

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    posted 05-08-2000 09:04 PM PT (US)     

     Chris Kinsinger
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    HEY BRAD!
    How are ya', bud?

    Is this Flash Gordon CD a brand new release?
    Is is only the Blake score, or does it contain the Queen music as well?


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    posted 05-08-2000 09:22 PM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    This one's a time-piece. I remember seeing the movie when I was 5. If you're not familiar with the movie, I'd say bypass the score. Otherwise, indulge yourself--it's a worthy companion album to Queen's "Flash Gordon" rock-score (which also features orchestrations by Howard Blake.)

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    posted 05-08-2000 09:23 PM PT (US)     

     Chris Kinsinger
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    Lancelot, I'd love to have all of the music from this movie on CD...are you saying that there are two different versions, one Queen and one Blake?

    This is frustrating...


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    posted 05-08-2000 09:26 PM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    There are (now) two albums, yes.
    The Queen version features:

    Two songs (Flash's Theme and The Hero)

    Some rock-n'-roll style instrumentals, including a wordless vocal peformed by Freddy Mercury, and the Wedding March performed by Brian May on electric guitar. (There is more to love, however.)

    Also, a fair deal of dialogue interspersed among the music.

    I grew up listening to Queen's LP of "Flash Gordon", so I've come to anticipate Brian Blessed shouting "Dive!" in the middle of the battle theme, or General Kala delivering her famous line, "What do you mean Flash Gordon approaching?" Like I advise--it's helpful to be comfortably familiar with the movie.

    The Howard Blake score is, most recently, the "missing piece", which completes the whole listening experience, I feel. Upon seeing the movie, and hearing the Queen album, you *might* wonder what exactly was left out of the CD release, but when you hear Blake's score, you realize that they really left out a lot.

    By itself, Blake's score might be interesting, but I feel that alone, (for those who haven't experienced the movie or the Queen album), it may be a weak listen. For those who enjoy both the film and the Queen album, you realize the symbiosis in which the two music works exist.

    (On a interesting note, it is quite fascinating to realize that Queen is really an integral part of the films in which they've contributed. "Highlander" being the other obvious choice--in order for the *complete* listening experience, you must own both the "Highlander" score album *and* Queen's "A Kind of Magic" album...)

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    posted 05-09-2000 07:53 AM PT (US)     

     Andre Lux
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    Yes!! Thanks fellas!!
    I'll order this CD as soon as possible!!

    GO FLASH, GO!

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    posted 05-09-2000 10:04 AM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    FLASH GORDON is one of the weirdest movies ever made, and I say that with no small amount of admiration. I wonder if it's not a coincidence that director Mike Hodges was recovering from a nervous breakdown at the time (he'd recently cowrote DAMIEN OMEN II, then had to be removed from directing the movie because he was just too erratic.) The film's persistent sense of sadomasochistic dread is so relentless that you have to wonder what was going through Hodges' head. The whole IDEA of a Queen score for this is so bizarre that it makes it completely perfect (and I love that album.)

    The "Attack of the Hawkmen" theme appeared on a video game in the early eighties, but I can't remember which one. This was the arcade kind of video game, not the home-video type.

    FLASH GORDON's costs went up higher and higher for a variety of reasons -- it's probably the most EXPENSIVELY deliberately cheesy movie of all time. De Laurentiis has never been too chary about his budgets -- Melody Anderson, who played Dale, remembered that she wasn't too interested in doing the movie, but Dino snapped "We double you money!" (her recollection). She caved in. Additionally, they engaged Fellini's production designer, Danilo Donati, to do both the sets AND costumes -- he ratcheted up the budget to a ridiculous degree. (I've noticed this happens rather often with Hollywood-financed productions shot in Italy -- CLEOPATRA and ADVENTURES OF BARON MUNCHAUSEN are only the most notorious examples. I will not presently go into why this appears to happen.)

    The novelization of FLASH GORDON is quite well-written and even more fetishy than the movie is, if that's possible. Can't remember who did it, but it was a respected SF author ... Arthur Byron Cover, someone like that, I just can't remember for sure.

    Oh yes, let's not forget to point to the hysterical script by Lorenzo Semple Jr., who had already done the campy TV version of BATMAN, and the KING KONG remake (underrated, I still insist), as well as two more serious projects, PAPILLON and THE PARALLAX VIEW. He won the Original Screenplay Oscar for PRETTY POISON in 1969.

    How do I remember these things? I couldn't even tell you what color my shirt is unless I looked down. (some kind of green)

    NP: "Destroy The Monsters" (rock remixes of various Godzilla themes -- I adore it, but it wouldn't match the tastes of most)

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    posted 05-09-2000 03:32 PM PT (US)     

     Timmer
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    ....Just check My girlfriends not looking....

    ORNELLA MUTI...MMMMMM, MMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!

    uh?,oh yeah?!,The scores worth buying too!

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    posted 05-09-2000 05:25 PM PT (US)     

     Andre Lux
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    I double that HUMMMMMMMMMM...
    She's drop dead gorgeous on that costumes!!!

    And Max Von Sidow kick ass as the falic symbol, Ming - the bald.

    Is so good to be happy!!!!

    Thanks for the memories fellas...

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    posted 05-09-2000 06:32 PM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    The "Attack of the Hawkmen" theme appeared in the video game "Vanguard" (as the "invincible" music.)

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    posted 05-10-2000 02:14 PM PT (US)     

     Andre Lux
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    The cover looks pretty cool!!!

    Check it out:
    http://www.supercollector.com/Super_store/Images/products/h/HBCD01.jpg

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