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PeterD Oscar® Winner	Over on the IMDb message board, someone has posted a question asking what was the "first original motion picture soundtrack recorded on a HiFi 33-1/3 LP record"? Anyone know?
posted 04-28-2000 06:40 AM PT (US)

JEC Oscar® Winner	I believe it was CAPTAIN FROM CASTILLE on Decca -- this is a guess, though.
posted 04-28-2000 06:52 AM PT (US)

Big Dave Oscar® Nominee	I believe the first LP was "The Song Of Bernadette"(sp?) by Alfred Newman.
posted 04-28-2000 07:03 AM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	There was some kind of pressing of the OST for Max Steiner's KING KONG -- that's where some of the tracks on the recent Rhino release came from. As that was one of the first film scores (as we think of them today), that would probably be the first soundtrack.
posted 04-28-2000 12:20 PM PT (US)

Graham Watt Oscar® Winner	I don't know, but it's Friday night and I feel like writing! I thought it was something like Rozsa's Thief Of Baghdad.
posted 04-28-2000 01:03 PM PT (US)

JEC Oscar® Winner	The question was what was the first soundtrack issued on a 33 1/3 LP. I am almost certain it was a 1949 DECCA release of CAPTAIN FROM CASTILLE.
posted 04-28-2000 02:21 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Oscar® Winner	JEC is on the ball. The other responses are on different formats-78s, etc. Jungle Book and Enchanted Cottage, very early releases-1942 or thereabouts. Song of Bernadette a little later. Also the 78s and 45s on Duel in Sun around 1947. Captain of Castile was not the version in the film but re-recordings. The later Facet CD is closer to the film's music. It was on an Delos LP in the 70s. The King Kong movie either came from the original acetates that Steiner did or the SRI 10" of it recorded in the 30's. All the other recordings were done in '70s and later and all were re-recordings or different versions. John Morgan's version on Marco Polo is the closest to the film of all the later releases. Thanks to John and Bill. Best, John.
posted 04-28-2000 03:47 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Oscar® Winner	Also throw in the many recordings of Spellbound and Paradine Case in mid-late '40s. JW.
posted 04-28-2000 03:49 PM PT (US)

PeterD Oscar® Winner	Thanks for your answers, everyone. Of course, now I'm really confused as to what answer to give to this person on the other message board. The question specified "original motion picture soundtrack" and 33-1/3 LP, so John, if "Captain from Castile" was a re-recording, I guess that rules that out? So do we know what the answer would be???
posted 04-28-2000 05:35 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Oscar® Winner	That's correct, Peter. I would think that the first 331/3 LP that was an original soundtrack would have to be in the 1950's. JW.
posted 04-28-2000 06:10 PM PT (US)

JEC Oscar® Winner	I would still have to say that CAPTAIN FROM CASTILE is the correct answer, even if it was a re-recording. We are employing modern jargon when we start talking about re-rcordings versus original soundtrack recordings, by which we usually mean original tracks. These distinctions were probably unknown in the early days of soundtrack LPs, most of the early ones probably being re-recordings.
posted 04-28-2000 06:40 PM PT (US)

PeterD Oscar® Winner	Thank you again, John and JEC; that all makes sense. I will tell this person that the consensus here at the moviemusic.com message board seems to be CAPTAIN FROM CASTILE, but that technically speaking, the LP is a re-recording of the music from the original soundtrack.
posted 04-28-2000 07:39 PM PT (US)

Timmer Oscar® Winner	I thought it was The jungle Book by Rosza! NP : Rautavaara - Flute Concerto
posted 04-28-2000 08:04 PM PT (US)

Chris Kinsinger Oscar® Winner	This is all very interesting information. I had thought for years that the very first Soundtrack LP was Sonrisal Colesterol's score for El Guapo, De Gato, Et Fortuano. It was released in 1937.
posted 04-28-2000 08:11 PM PT (US)

Wedge Oscar® Winner	I heard that the OST for Disney's "Snow White" was the first time the songs on the LP were not rerecorded for the soundtrack, but rather, they used the film recordings.
posted 04-28-2000 08:31 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	Christopher, is EL GUAPO available on CD, whether normal or boot? It's one of those things you'd expect Rhino to have gotten to by now ... People forget that this is the movie from which THREE AMIGOS got the line, "Every man once in his life must face his own personal El Guapo." [This message has been edited by H Rocco (edited 28 April 2000).]
posted 04-28-2000 08:41 PM PT (US)

Chris Kinsinger Oscar® Winner	Rocco, you never fail to amaze me! The Three Amigos isn't exactly one of those movies that sticks in anyone's memory, but they did indeed make reference to Colesterol's El Guapo, De Gato, Et Fortuano, at several points in the film. Perhaps Steve Martin or John Landis is a Colesterol fan. I especially loved Randy Newman's parody of Colesterol's La Busche des La Operetta score in that scene with "The Singing Bush"! Also, didn't "The Invisible Warrior" idea originate in Colesterol's opera De Lights Dey Ara Outa!? This is a fascinating topic.
posted 04-28-2000 08:57 PM PT (US)

Chris Kinsinger Oscar® Winner	Sorry, Rocco...I failed to answer your question. My great-grandmother had the original LP of Colesterol's El Guapo in her record collection, which was tragically destroyed by fire. I have no idea if anyone has recorded this music on CD or CD-R.
posted 04-28-2000 09:03 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Oscar® Winner	As I stated above, Jungle Book in 1942 was the first commercial U.S. release. It was on 78. JW.
posted 04-28-2000 09:24 PM PT (US)

Andre Lux unregistered	It amazes me to see how popular Sonrisal Colesterol still is all over the world, even without writing a new score since "A Zabumba Assassina" ("The Killer Zabumba") from 1975. The record mr. Kissinger mentioned, El Guapo, De Gato, Et Fortuano is in fact the mexican version of "O Bonitão, O Baiano e o Nervoso" ("The Handsome, The Bahian and the Nervous") movie that, by the way, inspired Sergio Leone's "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly". It is true that several parts of "O Bonitão, O Baiano e o Nervoso" were used in "The Tree Amigos", because Steve Martin is a huge fan of Colesterol. I read once that he has about 1.340 LPs from Colesterol's works, among originals and re-recordings. Aparently, he owns inclusive the extremely rare mini-disc with the main theme Colesterol wrote for the 1924 masterpiece "O Bamba do Samba". Greetings to my friend of fine taste!
posted 04-29-2000 05:49 AM PT (US)

Valere Oscar® Winner	1947-2 78's-Majestic/ & Mercury-1 EP from Mercury-Yellowcover"Special Edition"which also had track selections on side 2 fromAlfred Newman:I Only have Eyes For You/Long Ago And Far Away/They didn't Believe Me/Lovely to Look At/Someone to Watch Over Me/A Foggy Day. Side 1 Is CAPTIAN FROM CASTILE.I know this,because I have the album! NP:Victory@Sea:Rings Around Rabaul ***/*** [This message has been edited by Valere (edited 29 April 2000).]
posted 04-29-2000 06:12 PM PT (US)

THE GREEK Oscar® Winner	I believe, friends, that we have to define that 331/3 records are completelly different than 10''LPs and 78s or 45s.So reffering to all those recordings above is not the proper answer for this question.Unfortuatelly i'm not aware of the correct answer of the first 331/3 recording but i guess that we all have to search between 1954 and 1956 and the first recordings by DECCA and CORAL. Does anybody know??
posted 05-01-2000 08:30 AM PT (US)

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