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Topic: "North by Northwest" DVD!

Marian Schedenig

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I just read at http://www.areadvd.de/news/200004/2204200004.shtml (in German, so most of you won't be able to read it, I guess) that my all-time favourite Hitchcock movie, North by Northwest is supposed to come out on August 29 in the USA. Features: 1:85 transfer, Dobly Digital 5.1, Audio Commentary by Ernest Lehman (whoever that is...), several trailers to Hitchcock movies and....an isolated score track! Let's hope that it is true (maybe I'll even already have a video projector when it comes out
).
posted 04-22-2000 06:10 AM PT (US) 
Dan Brecher

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The DVD will have an iso score, that is true. Warner confirmed this in a live chat recently at the Home Theatre Forum.Dan (UK)
posted 04-22-2000 06:31 AM PT (US) 
Mark Olivarez

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YEESSSSS!!!!! That is one of my favorite Hitchcock movies. I never got around to getting the criterion laserdisc of it so I'm glad I waited. I wish they could correct some of the glitches heard in the score on the complete CD version that was released a few years back.
posted 04-22-2000 06:51 AM PT (US) 
PeterD

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Good news, Marian; thanks! I've got the MGM laserdisc, but with a commentary by Ernest Lehman (he wrote the screenplay), I'll have to get the DVD, too.
posted 04-22-2000 07:03 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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I fear they won't be able to significantly improve the sound quality of the passages you mentioned, Mark. As they said in the liner notes to the Turner release, one of the reels was nearly destroyed. It's a shame that it was exactly the reel which conains the best music from the score (the fandango sequences).
posted 04-22-2000 07:32 AM PT (US) 
Chase&August
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YES!! My all-time favorite Hitchcock movie on DVD! WOOHOO!!
posted 04-22-2000 10:07 AM PT (US) 
Swashbuckler

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Excellent, excellent news. My MGM laserdisc of this title, while better by far than any VHS edition, still could be sharper, have better colors and accurate letterboxing. I hope the 5.1 remastering is a better job than the limp "simulated stereo" on the analogue tracks of that disc.Criterion's disc had more extras, but it was an even older transfer and had no color.
I can't wait for this DVD.
Regarding the isolated score track... I don't think this is such a big deal considering that Rhino's release was complete, but I'll consider it an excellent perk.
(Marian, I think and hope you were joking about not knowing who Ernest Lehmann is)
posted 04-23-2000 04:41 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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quote:
Originally posted by Swashbuckler:
Criterion's disc had more extras, but it was an even older transfer and had no color.No color? Oh...
quote:
I can't wait for this DVD.
Neither can I. One of my favourite films, when I got my DVD-ROM drive, this was one of the first DVDs I was looking for - what a disappointment to learn that there isn't one so far. Luckily, not for long!quote:
Regarding the isolated score track... I don't think this is such a big deal considering that Rhino's release was complete, but I'll consider it an excellent perk.Yes, but while the score is amazing in the film, it's a bit too repetitive for me to play the CD often. Seeing the film only with the score playing will be cool. And, as John Morgan said on another thread, the restoring of the bad tapes may even be better than on the Rhino disc.
quote:
(Marian, I think and hope you were joking about not knowing who Ernest Lehmann is)Err...I really didn't know. *g* But after looking him up at the IMDb, of the few works of him that I've seen, the only really impressive one was NBNW (not that the others are bad, though).
Still, I was NOT surprised that he also wrote The Prize.

posted 04-23-2000 05:00 PM PT (US) 
Swashbuckler

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I posted my reactions to this thread before reading the other, in which the fact that the isolated score track may sound better than the CD was mentioned. Too bad it will be wasted in Dolby Digital.I'm surprised you weren't impressed with Lehmann's filmography...
"Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?"
"The Sound of Music"
"Black Sunday"
"West Side Story"
"Sabrina"
"The King and I"
"The Prize"
"Executive Suite"
...and of course "North by Northwest"In many cases, he kept some of these films from turning into embarrassments.
posted 04-24-2000 07:45 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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I've seen The Prize, the remake of Sabrina, Family Plot and of course North by Nortwest, so the only thing to really impress me is NBNW, so far.NP: The Egyptian (Herrmann/Newman)
posted 04-25-2000 09:17 AM PT (US) 
Eric Paddon

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I'll be picking the DVD up solely for the commentary track. I was fortunate to get the Criterion CAV version long ago and I always loved the extras on that one, though the lack of a commentary track was unfortunate.I would note again that those who never could afford to get the old Criterion laser discs with the great supplements should check out e-bay because you'll find a lot of people dumping them at cheap rates!
BTW, there's a book on the making of the movie due out this summer, a joint venture by the different authors (Auilar and Rebello I think) who did respective books on Vertigo and Psycho.
posted 04-25-2000 08:07 PM PT (US) 
PeterD

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Thanks for the tip on the book, Eric; that's as good news as the DVD! I just did a search at amazon.com under Rebello, and the title is "Alfred Hitchcock Goes North by Northwest," by Auilar and Rebello (although according to amazon, it's not due out until December). The list price is $27.95; amazon's price is $19.57.
posted 04-25-2000 10:06 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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I cannot find any more info on the iso score track, looks like there won't be one after all. If you have proof of the opposite, post here to make me happy.
posted 08-21-2000 07:45 AM PT (US) 
A.G

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Marian, DVDFile.com now have a preview of this DVD, it does indeed have an Isolated Score.
posted 08-21-2000 08:30 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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What a relief!
posted 08-21-2000 08:33 AM PT (US) 
Swashbuckler

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Now that the DVD is out, here are my comments...- The picture quality is outstanding. It blows away the previous MGM-UA laserdisc in sharpness, color and detail. This is a great transfer of a VistaVision picture. The colors are spot-on. The film has a very natural appearance now, though not at the expense of some of the glossier moments.
Of particular interest, the new transfer seems to make the special effects in the Mount Rushmore sequence more effective. Although this seems to be counter-intuitive (many people believe that a better transfer make it easier to see the mismatches; this isn't always so), the greater detail and improved color actually smooth out these scenes, causing their flaws to be diminished.
Unfortunately, my laserdisc player is in the shop at the moment, so I was unable to make an A-B comparison of the framing. Since the MGM-UA disc was in the 1.66:1 aspect ratio, and the Criterion disc was at about 1.76:1, it would be interesting to see how the framing changes from transfer to transfer. However, the framing on this disc looks fine.
- The sound is well-done, punching up the score in the mix. A restoration of the original mono track would have been nice, but the original balances haven't been tinkered with the way they were with Jaws. In fact, even though it is more elaborately panned than the bogus stereo version on the analog tracks of the MGM-UA laserdisc, it certainly sounds closer to the original.
Note: I had no problems with the DTS mix of Vertigo, which was done using Hitch's original notes and with the participation of several of the original production's members. This mix was criticized when that film was re-released because it "overpowered the visuals." I saw the film in a 70 millimeter print at the Ziegfield, and failed to find the sound overpowering anything. The original balances were there, only in stereo. Furthermore, as it is mentioned in the documentary on that film's laserdisc and DVD incarnations, great care was taken that the score would be mixed at the proper levels.
- The isolated score track is fantastic, with a good, fatty sound that is perfect for this score. The Rhino disc is still indispensible, but the DVD solves many of the aforementioned deterioration problems heard in the main titles and Mount Rushmore sequence.
- The documentary is okay. It is hosted by Eva Marie Saint (who's sign-off is a wonderfully nostalgic moment), and it is clear that everybody involved with the film is quite happy with it. An interesting tidbit is revealed: Bernard Herrmann introduced Alfred Hitchcock to Ernest Lehmann.
- Lehmann is obviously quite proud of the film, and enjoys reminiscing on the commentary track. His plodding pace and elderly voice may put off some listeners, but people should pay attention to his comments. He did, after all, write one of the most crackerjack movies in history
What this all adds up to is this:
BUY THIS DVD
If you're a fan of the film, you'll want to see it look like this.
If you're a fan of the score, you want to hear it sound like this.
If you've never seen this film, then you're in for a treat. Combining Hitch's mastery of the cinematic medium with awesome star power, razorsharp VistaVision photography by Robert Burks and one of Bernard Herrmann's most fun scores, this film one of the most entertaining ever.
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For those who are wondering what "VistaVision" was...
During the big widescreen race of the 50s (i.e. combating television), VistaVision was in competition with 70 millimeter and anamorphic (squeezed) formats.
The format consisted of using standard 35 millimeter film, which was cheaper than the 70 millimeter stock, which was exposed horizontally instead of vertically (as in a still camera). Since the frame itself was larger, the picture quality of the negative was highly detailed, rivaling in quality 70 millimeter and blowing anamorphic away (which also had optical distortion problems at the time). Prints were made of these for roadshow presentations.
This was usually followed by a wide release, consisting of dupes reduction printed for standard 35 millimeter release. The prints would feature better picture quality than a standard 35 millimeter film.
Recently, Vertigo was restored using the original VistaVision elements onto 70 millimeter, allowing the restored prints a level of clarity and detail previously unseen.
Unfortunately, the format never really took off. There were a few films shot this way (including the aforementioned titles and Cecil B. Demille's The Ten Commandments), but VistaVision eventually became extinct, only to be resurrected in 1976 by enterprising special effects artists for the visual effects for a small film nobody ever heard of called Star Wars.
posted 08-31-2000 08:41 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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I don't seem to be lucky with ordering online recently. CDNow still haven't shipped my order, and my NbNW DVD is still at DVDBoxOffice. Can't wait!
posted 09-01-2000 04:13 AM PT (US) 
John Maher

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Marian, I'm confused by your post about Ernie Lehman films. Are you saying that you've never seen West Side Story, Whose Afraid of Virginia Woolf, The King and I or The Sound of Music???
posted 09-02-2000 09:01 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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John, I usually don't like musicals. I do intend to see West Side Story some day, but so far I've always missed it. I like the music, but only the suites, not the singing. I know how special Sound of Music is to you, but I really doubt I could enjoy it. I haven't seen the other two, either.But that reminds me of your offer regarding the De Palma movies, I had nearly forgotten I'm afraid. Anyway, I realized that I actually have no way to find out if my recorder can play NTSC cassettes. But I'm happy to say that I've seen Carrie in the meantime (although in pan & scan
), and I intend to borrow Snake Eyes from a friend when he's back from his hollidays. But of course, thank you very much for the offer!
And thinking of it, it's high time for me to order the Carlito's Way DVD!NP: The Lion in Winter (John Barry)
posted 09-02-2000 12:15 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
- The picture quality is outstanding. It blows away the previous MGM-UA laserdisc in sharpness, color and detail. This is a great transfer of a VistaVision picture. The colors are spot-on. The film has a very natural appearance now, though not at the expense of some of the glossier moments.
