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Wedge Oscar® Winner	I'm sure anyone who's seen both versions will agree that last year's superb mini-series "Joan of Arc" outdoes it's disappointing blockbuster doppleganger "The Messenger" in just about every area -- including the music (Eric Serra should be ashamed of himself -- I am SO SICK of 'composers' pulling Carmina Burana out of their hats at the last minute and slapping their names on it! I suppose he could have been bullied into adhering to a temp-track, but until I hear otherwise, SHAME!) So here's my question: Gulliver's Travels, The Odyssee, Alice in Wonderland, Noah's Ark, Animal Farm ... they all got full-fledged score releases. So WHERE'S JOAN OF ARC?!? Over 130 minutes of ABSOLUTELY, FANTASTICALLY GORGEOUS material, and we get NONE OF IT! It's been almost a year with no word! There's something screwy around here ... Varese? Mr. Thaxton? Is anyone out there listening? [This message has been edited by Wedge (edited 20 April 2000).]
posted 04-19-2000 09:43 PM PT (US)

SPOR2 Oscar® Winner	Are you speaking of the Joan mini-series with Leelee Sobieski?
posted 04-19-2000 10:50 PM PT (US)

Chase&August unregistered	quote: Originally posted by Wedge: (Don Davis should be ashamed of himself) If you're talking about the Luc Besson one (and I think you are), I believe Eric Serra scored THE MESSENGER, not Don Davis.
posted 04-19-2000 11:40 PM PT (US)

Chase&August unregistered	And of course, Leelee Sobieski is MUCH more attractive (and a helluva lot more talented) than Milla Jovovich, or whatever her last name is.
posted 04-19-2000 11:41 PM PT (US)

SPOR2 Oscar® Winner	What the hell has that got to do with anything!?!
posted 04-20-2000 12:34 AM PT (US)

Chase&August unregistered	Well, Wedge mentioning how disappointing THE MESSENGER was, I thought I'd mention one of the reason why it was so bad. But back on-topic: Wedge, you're right. The score for the TV mini-series was fabulous. Too bad it's not isolate on the DVD (and too bad the DVD version of the movie is full-screen and was cut up to run about two hours, instead of the full 3hours+). [This message has been edited by Chase&August (edited 20 April 2000).]
posted 04-20-2000 12:37 AM PT (US)

SPOR2 Oscar® Winner	In any case Wedge, if you're speaking of the mini-series with Lelee, I own a sealed promo copy. Regrettably, it makes no reference to the composer or the music, so I haven't the foggiest idea what's contained within. Not having seen the broadcast myself, I have no clue as to the score's merit. I've been tempted to open it but I'd rather make a profitable trade with someone desperate to get their hands on the thing...if, of course, it has any redeeming value whatsoever.
posted 04-20-2000 01:03 AM PT (US)

Wedge Oscar® Winner	D'oh! Naturally, I meant Eric Serra. So a promo exists, eh? Anyone have any more information?
posted 04-20-2000 06:20 AM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Oscar® Winner	I saw the TV one in Texas a couple of years ago. It was superb. Very well done. Acting was good by all in it. I enjoyed it very much. John.
posted 04-20-2000 05:47 PM PT (US)

joan hue Oscar® Winner	Well, I'll rent Joan of Arc because of all the kudos expressed in the above posts. Last week I rented The Messenger, and I still haven't recovered. I kept watching it, hoping to hear some fine music. I liked Milla Jovovich in The 5th Element, but I wanted to inject her with 500 CC's of Valium and wrap her in a straight jacket. I blame Bresson for directing her to behave in such a bizarre manner. Some of the male actors were solid, but that is one movie I'll avoid rewatching.
posted 04-20-2000 10:03 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	WHOA! I'm glad it was someone who can be taken as seriously as Joan Hue (MOM!) who pointed out that Milla Jovovich was JUST FINE in THE FIFTH ELEMENT. I thought she did a remarkable job of making her alien nonsense-talk sound positively conversational. I was tired of seeing her slagged on this Board. Like the movie or hate it, she was quite the professional, and excellent (if bizarrely various) work was done by such talents as Ian Holm, Gary Oldman and Chris Tucker (who I'd never seen before, I found him hilarious at the time, but he doesn't seem to have much range ... ) Luc Besson was living with Milla Jovovich when they started making THE MESSENGER (the very existence of this picture helped foil the Kathryn Bigelow version, which would've been fascinating; never saw the TV movie); perhaps the couple's falling-out during mid-shoot led him to make her look worse than she really was. (I didn't see THE MESSENGER.)
posted 04-20-2000 11:58 PM PT (US)

Wedge Oscar® Winner	H, if you sat through "The Messenger", you OWE IT to yourself to march out and rent the TV-movie! (I've got the DVD, so I hope that you can rent the full 3-hr version.) EVERY ASPECT of the production is fantastic ... not the least of which is LeeLee Sobieski as Joan and the unmatchable Peter O'Toole as Bishop Cauchon. So go rent it! Prokofiev can wait. Oops ... I guess you DIDN'T see "The Messenger." Good for you. Go rent the TV-movie anyway. [This message has been edited by Wedge (edited 21 April 2000).]
posted 04-21-2000 08:58 AM PT (US)

Andre Lux unregistered	"The Fifth Element" is one of the worst movies ever made. It must be really embarrassing for actor such as Ian Holm and Gary Oldman to remember they were part of that. As for Milla Jovovich I think she should start to eat something. The way she looks, it seems she'll die of starvation any day now. Then a good school of acting would be very nice. But food in the first place!!!
posted 04-21-2000 09:36 AM PT (US)

DjC Oscar® Winner	The Joan of Ark Series was horrible, dull, and not worth renting, but the music is mediocre. That Lee lee chick sucked, but the music was o.k.
posted 04-21-2000 12:47 PM PT (US)

Chase&August unregistered	Of course, Peter Strauss was in the excellant mini-series, so that alone instantly makes it worth watching.
posted 04-21-2000 04:09 PM PT (US)

SPOR2 Oscar® Winner	Really folks, The Messanger wasn't all that bad. That Joan of Arc remains an enigma, even until today, more than justifies Ms. Jovovich's pschizoid performance. And, like The Fifth Element, Mr. Besson has a firm grasp of the technical. The fluidity of the camerwork and editing that first introduces us to young Joan as she "jumps for joy" in her faith is a brand of filmmaking that has become irrelevant in an America, where characature and cliche have become guaranteed means of winning an audiences sympathies. I'd also add that Eric Serra's score was suitably understated and, again, characteristically un-Hollywood. I'd recommend it to anyone tired of watching the same-old, same-old that comes out of La-La Land.
posted 04-21-2000 04:44 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Oscar® Winner	I agree with Wedge. The TV film was excellent. Good acting all the way around. Very well made. I have not seen the other version. Best, John.
posted 04-23-2000 03:23 PM PT (US)

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