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    Topic:   Composers' Oscar Website??

     joan hue
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    I’ve seen lists of Oscar nominations for various music composers
    in various magazines, but does anyone know of a website that
    may: list composers’ Oscar nominated scores and which scores won,
    and lists which scores were nominated each year for the past 60
    years? (My web search has been futile so far.)

    Chris asked if The Ten Commandments was nominated. Not
    sure. I remember seeing a list of Bernstein nominations and being
    surprised that while To Kill A Mockingbird and Magnificent Seven
    were nominated, neither won; however, he did win for Thoroughly
    Modern Millie. That is hard to believe. I think he has been robbed
    about as often as Goldsmith.

    It would be great to see such lists for comparisons, but my Web search
    hasn’t yielded much. I was hoping some of you Intelligent-Internet-
    Web-Whizzes could help. Thanks, Joan

    NP Rough Riders, Peter Bernstein and Dad

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    posted 04-17-2000 09:29 PM PT (US)     

     PeterD
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    Hi, Joan. Go to this website:
    http://www.oscars.org/awards_db/index.html

    When you get there, click on "Academy Awards Database" over on the left side of the page.
    Select "Music (Scoring)" for the Award Category, pick whatever year or years you're interested in, and it'll bring up all the nominees, and the winners.

    By the way, "Ten Commandments" wasn't even nominated -- hard to believe! The 1956 nominees were "Anastasia" (Newman), "Around the World in 80 Days" (Young, who won); "Between Heaven and Hell" (Friedhofer); "Giant" (Tiomkin), and "The Rainmaker" (North).

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    posted 04-17-2000 10:20 PM PT (US)     

     joan hue
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    Thanks PeterD. It is unimaginable that The Ten Commandments, listened to so often, wasn't nominated, but that was quite a year for outstanding scores. (I'd have still given the Oscar to Ten Commandments with Giant as a close runner up.)

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    posted 04-17-2000 10:47 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    Bernstein's not even being nominated for THE TEN COMMANDMENTS is so bizarre, I can't even speak to it, as he HAD been nominated the year before for MAN WITH THE GOLDEN ARM. However, the year he DID win is instructive in the way Oscar politics tend to work. Such awards are often the Hollywood equivalents of what they call in the military "attaboy medals." They have more to do with celebrating the general body of work than the performance honored. (Does anyone think Al Pacino was better in SCENT OF A WOMAN than, for instance, THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE or even HEAT? I don't. Paul Newman better in THE COLOR OF MONEY than THE VERDICT? And so on.)

    It doesn't always work this way: Bernstein was relatively young to the business (relative to how old he is now! and still working!), but anyway, here's the score he DID take home Oscar for: THOROUGHLY MODERN MILLIE, a movie I've never seen. Among the scores he beat out were PLANET OF THE APES. (Something probably way too esoteric to ever have appealed to the voters.)

    Bernstein was a more established composer than Goldsmith at that time -- I think they'd been working for roughly the same number of years, but Goldsmith hadn't quite yet become JERRY GOLDSMITH -- that he was ever nominated throughout the 1960s was more a vote of confidence than anything else. I dare say more people knew Bernstein at the time, and remembered such works as MAGNIFICENT SEVEN, TEN COMMANDMENTS and TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD. I mean, we still listen to those today, and does ANYONE remember THOROUGHLY MODERN MILLIE? (Okay, for all I know it's the prettiest thing in existence, but I still suspect the voters were voting for the name.)

    This is perhaps a convoluted argument, but one I haven't really tried to express before. Apologies in advance.

    NP: THE THREE MUSKETEERS (Michael Kamen) (I hated this movie, but the album is lovely; if you liked Kamen's ROBIN HOOD or BARON MUNCHAUSEN, you owe it to yourself to get this one)


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    posted 04-17-2000 11:39 PM PT (US)     

     Andy Lindahl
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    I have a complete list at my site at http://www.scorereviews.com/academyawards.shtml

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    posted 04-18-2000 12:17 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    The IMDb's ( http://us.imdb.com/ , as I expect everyone knows ) awardss section has countless lists of tons of different awards world-wide. I guess the Academy Award list should be rather complete. You can browse them by year if you want to know who was nominated in 19xx.

    NP: Scaramouche (Victor Young, suite on Marco Polo's Captain Blood album; wonderful, although CB is of course the highlight of the CD)

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    posted 04-18-2000 07:59 AM PT (US)     

     PeterD
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    H R., a minor correction. "Planet of the Apes" was in contention in 1968, the year after "Millie"; it lost to Barry's "Lion in Winter." "Millie" beat out "Cool Hand Luke" (Schifrin), "Doctor Dolittle" (Bricusse), "Far from the Madding Crowd" (Bennett), and "In Cold Blood" (Jones). But your theory of WHY it won still applies.

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    posted 04-18-2000 08:04 AM PT (US)     

     joan hue
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    Hey, Rocco, your arguments are NOT convoluted; they
    are very accurate. Oscars tend to go to the flavor-of
    the month; then the Academy feels guilty and later on
    awards a continuously outstanding performer for a lesser
    role. I.E. Newman was nominated 7 or 8 times before he
    won for The Color of Money. His previous work was more
    deserving. Same for Elmer Bernstein. Another Academy miss
    was for all of the outstanding performances of Richard Burton.

    This may be heresy, but sometimes I think they should use
    more ties and award several for outstanding performances. It
    is hard to compare apples and oranges. Hepburn/Streisand
    tie is an example. How does one compare Funny Girl to
    A Lion in Winter?

    Andy, what a great site. I didn’t know that during some years
    only 4 scores were nominated and other years had 14 scores.
    Notice l939 for music filmscores. I definitely would have
    awarded three or four Oscars to several music composers.
    How does one compare Newman’s Wuthering Heights to
    Steiner’s Gone With the Wind to the winner, Wizard of Oz?


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    posted 04-18-2000 08:28 AM PT (US)     

     Thor
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    Hey Joan, I'm sure my own site cannot boast the same amount of info and accuracy as the abovementioned, but at least it has it's own section labeled "Oscar-winning composers". Check it out:

    Celluloid Tunes

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    posted 04-26-2000 08:28 AM PT (US)     

     joan hue
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    Wow, Thor, what a SUPER PLACE! Great!

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    posted 04-26-2000 08:46 AM PT (US)     
     

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