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Mark Olivarez

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I'm curious if you could help me with this. I have AKIRA IFUKUBE #10 (Godzilla v.s. Mecha-Godzilla) and AKIRA IFUKUBE #11 (G v.s. DESTOYER). I've located a copy of AKIRA IFUKUBE #9 (G v.s. MOTHRA) and I'm currently trying to get it. What are the other double disc sets in the series? I have all the single Godzilla cds in the Futureland series, but would like to get some of the doubles. Boy do the Japanese know how to release a soundtrack. Any info you could provide I would appreciate.Thanks,
Mark
NP: THE MUMMY *****/*****
posted 04-08-2000 10:37 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Sorry if I took a while to respond: I wasn't ignoring you, just logged on a little while ago. So here we go -- I'll use US video release titles, for clarity's sake:Vol. 1: GODZILLA, RODAN, MYSTERIANS
Vol. 2: KING KONG VS. GODZILLA (mono tracks), VARAN THE UNBELIEVABLE (including alternate tracks recorded for US version, some of which pop up in Japanese version, NONE of which finally show up in US version! Maybe twelve seconds of Ifukube's score finally does. A shame, I think it's one of his VERY best.)
Vol. 3: GODZILLA VS. MOTHRA (1964), TERROR OF MECHAGODZILLA, DOGORA THE SPACE MONSTER
Vol. 4: ATRAGON, KING KONG ESCAPES, LATITUDE ZERO
Vol. 5: GHIDRAH THE 3-HEADED MONSTER, GODZILLA VS. MONSTER ZERO, DESTROY ALL MONSTERS
Vol. 6: FRANKENSTEIN CONQUERS THE WORLD, WAR OF THE GARGANTUAS
Vol. 7: BATTLE IN OUTER SPACE, YOG: MONSTER FROM SPACE
Vol. 8: THE BIRTH OF JAPAN (not released on US video, but known here variously as THE THREE TREASURES and AGE OF THE GODS -- one of his biggest, most epic films and scores, HIGHLY recommended)
Unnumbered releases (packaged the same way, but not part of the other "numbered" series):
A double with KING KONG VS. GODZILLA (in stereo! a whole other experience!), WHALE GOD, ADVENTURE IN KIGAN CASTLE (aka DAREDEVIL IN THE CASTLE)
A double of the MAJIN trilogy (all 1966)
A double of LITTLE PRINCE & THE 8-HEADED DRAGON (animated film) (one CD is the complete recording, the other is the music as heard and edited throughout the film ... a maddening tic of the later Futureland releases, including GODZILLA VS. MOTHRA and GODZILLA VS. DESTROYER, of which I do not approve at all)
A couple of the numbered series include alternate takes of various main titles and marches. Not quite as interesting as it might sound, it's often just a question of a piano punctuating HERE rather than THERE.
Good luck finding the old doubles, they're long out of print, except for volume 1, which is a perennial. Single CDs of most of the above were also subsequently issued, most with a handful of bonus tracks. All those dropped out of print almost as soon as they were issued -- the company overextended itself badly. (The only ones listed above that were NOT issued as singles were WHALE GOD, ADVENTURE IN KIGAN CASTLE, LITTLE PRINCE AND THE 8-HEADED DRAGON, and THE BIRTH OF JAPAN -- it wouldn't be POSSIBLE to issue that one as a single unless you cut it way down, that score is nearly three hours long.)
Hope that helps.
NP: you have inspired me to pop in Volume 5 (the brass playing on GHIDRAH is some of the absolute craziest Ifukube ever wrote)
posted 04-08-2000 09:51 PM PT (US) 
Mark Olivarez

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Thanks for the info. Hopefully if I'm lucky I may find a few of those double cds. I would love to hear KING KONG vs GODZILLA in stereo. Actually now I'm inspired to play one of mine as well. I was able to get all of the singles issued for the non GODZILLA movies, with the exception of Masaru Sato's HALF HUMAN. You're right VARAN is an oustanding score. I've begun to appreciate Ifukube's work more than I ever thought I would. He has moved up my list to number 3 of my favorite composers. The first two being John Williams and Jerry Goldsmith.NP: KING KONG vs GODZILLA *****/*****
[This message has been edited by Mark Olivarez (edited 08 April 2000).]
posted 04-08-2000 10:27 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Mr. Ifukube is always tied with Mr. Goldsmith for me, quickly followed by Mr. Williams.Y'know, I just might have an extra copy of Masaru Sato's HALF HUMAN ... fell into my lap as if a gift from the sky ... and there it is ...
NP: DESTROY ALL MONSTERS (by Mr. I)
P.S. Do you like other Japanese composers? I know so few who are into this at all.
posted 04-08-2000 11:36 PM PT (US) 
Mark Olivarez

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Actually the only other non Ifukube scores I have are : RETURN OF GODZILLA, GODZILLA (1984), and GODZILLA vs BIOLLANTE. That's pretty much it for me. I used to try on other message boards to get these kinds of threads going, but no one would respond.
NP: THE RIVER WILD ****/*****posted 04-09-2000 12:11 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Well, here we go.But above, you DID write: "I was able to get all of the singles issued for the non GODZILLA movies, with the exception of Masaru Sato's HALF HUMAN."
I wondered if that included a few I *didn't* have, e.g. MATANGO, THE H-MAN and THE HUMAN VAPOR ... I waited WAY too long to buy 'em. (Ironic that I ran into an extra copy of HALF HUMAN, considering.) it's okay if you DON'T have 'em, perhaps I misunderstood ...
NP: DANTE'S PEAK main title (OST as heard on Varese's pastiche "Towering Inferno and Other Disaster Themes")
posted 04-09-2000 12:18 AM PT (US) 
PeterD

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Hey, H Roc --Off-topic here, but as long as you're on the subject of Japanese cinema, and knowing your relationship with Mr. Kurosawa . . . I'd like very much to hear any opinions, background, etc., you might want to share about Kurosawa's HIGH AND LOW. I saw this movie on television a LONG time ago (I'm talking maybe 25 years or so), and remember thinking even in pan-and-scan, it was a pretty terrific movie (I especially remember there was a knockout sequence on a train). Now I'm tempted to buy the widescreen DVD, but that would mean delaying even further my purchase of Lukas's FLIM FLAM MAN and TAKE A HARD RIDE. Ah, decisions, decisions . . .
posted 04-09-2000 07:57 AM PT (US) 
Mark Olivarez

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I'm sorry I should have worded my response a little better. I meant the series that was released to include RODAN, VARAN, DAGORA etc. Only one in the series was by Masaru Satoh, the rest were by Ifukube. I believe there were 12 cds in all. For more info check this site out for a listing of Akira Ifukube and Godzilla related cds.http://www.idsi.net/larryt/Godzilla/godzilla.htm
[This message has been edited by Mark Olivarez (edited 09 April 2000).]
posted 04-09-2000 09:45 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Mr. D,To correct one thing: I never even met Mr. Kurosawa, I only wish I did, and God knows I tried, but everyone around him kept up an Iron Curtain. Not because I was such a bad guy (I hope), but because he had a "no visitors" policy in his last years. No "relationship" there at all, alas alas alas alas.
HIGH AND LOW: Japanese title is HEAVEN AND HELL, and I'll tell you frankly, it's a decent picture, but his previous THE BAD SLEEP WELL (1960) is a WAY better exploration of much of the same material. I find HIGH & LOW to be somewhat digressive, although certain sequences are (as is inevitable with Mr. K) completely amazing. Based on an Evan Hunter novel (one of his Precinct novels written under the name Ed McBain.) Masaru Sato's score is sparse but interesting. During the climactic Yokohama sequences, we hear one of his songs from THE H-MAN, either "The Magic Begins" or "So Deep Is My Love" (haven't seen it in a while). Later in the score, the female solo voice as the crazed Tsutomu Yamazaki stalks the heroin-addicted woman through the alleys is absolutely hair-raising, and a direct echo of the climax of Sato's earlier ABOMINABLE SNOWMAN (1955).
HIGH & LOW isn't unique in Kurosawa's ouevre either for its length or its depression ... but it's a fairly clear preview of what he was going to make in what turned out to be the thirty years to follow. (If anything, I think Mr. K lightened up a bit in his final ten years.)
You want to own HIGH & LOW? I wouldn't say not to, but I myself intend to own every Kurosawa before I'm done, so I'm not the one to ask. Just yesterday, over the telephone no less, someone was asking me about the DVD of one of Mr. K's earliest pictures, SANSHIRO SUGATA PART II. All I can do is think about how much I'd love to have every one of them, even the ones I don't like (THE MOST BEAUTIFUL, anyone? Try "THE MOST BORING. A wartime propaganda piece, at heart, but Kurosawa remembered it fondly because he married one of the film's actresses.)
Don't know what to tell you, PeterD, but these are my initial thoughts. Write again if you need more info. The FSM discs are pretty sweet, I will say ...
posted 04-09-2000 08:09 PM PT (US) 
PeterD

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Thanks very much for the info and opinions, H Rocco. I'll keep an eye out for THE BAD SLEEP WELL. (I remember -- at least I think I remember -- you mentioning in one of your postings that you had given Kurosawa something -- a book? a tape? -- and I somehow jumped from that to an image of you sitting down with him for long chats in his twilight years . . .)
posted 04-09-2000 10:12 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Oh man, if only I had. No, you're thinking of one of the other Akiras, in this case Mr. Ifukube (I also know the actor Akira Kubo ... it's one of the more common first names over there. At least, I figured that was what you were thinking about.)In the case of Mr. Ifukube, you're probably thinking of the tape of Herrmann chamber music I gave him (almost TWELVE YEARS AGO!) that he really responded to.
In the case of Mr. Kurosawa, I did EVERYTHING I could to meet him ... short of the one thing that might finally have worked: just go to his home in Yokohama and STAND OUT THERE FOR AS LONG AS IT TOOK UNTIL HE AT LEAST SAID HI TO ME. (I know it sounds like stalker behavior, but in Japan, it often works. At the recordings sessions for GODZILLA VS. KING GHIDRAH in 1991, I met a friendly Japanese fellow who told me he'd done that very thing; Ifukube noticed him after about half an hour, and they hit it off; today Mr. Ifukube is that fellow's child's godfather. How bout that! You wouldn't get away with that if you tried standing in front of Jim Cameron's mansion, I betcha.)
The Japanese directors I know/have known personally include the late Ishiro Honda; his buddy Senkichi Taniguchi; Koji Hashimoto; Jun Fukuda; Toru Hirayama (he's mainly a producer though); Teruyoshi Nakano; Shinji Higuchi; Minoru Nakano ... mostly people nobody here knows or cares about, but a great bunch of guys nonetheless. I'd have been SO proud to add Mr. Kurosawa to the list, but even his closest friend, Mr. Honda, who introduced me to anyone and everyone else, kept the curtains closed around him ... not because of me (I hope), but because Mr. Kurosawa in his twilight years simply did not want to be bothered. At all. By anyone. I don't mean this was a sad and lonely end ... I mean he just didn't want to be bothered with anything but his own art. I came along a good ten years too late, I think.
posted 04-09-2000 10:29 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
