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Topic: Silvestri recommendations anyone?

dantoris

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I own The Back To The Future Trilogy, Eraser, and Predator 2 (the first will soon be in my collection as well). What other good Silvestri scores should I look into? I seem to remember The Long Kiss Goodnight having a pretty good score, but only a song CD is available. Right?And does anyone know the correct pronounciation of his last name?
NP: Eraser - "Kruger Escapes" ***/***** (Not Silvestri's best action score - that honor goes to Predator - but still fairly enjoyable. This is the best track on the whole CD.)
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posted 03-31-2000 11:33 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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Wow! I had no idea. According to http://www.bttf.com/silvestr.htm, in the "Careerography" page, he also composed/conducted the score for Deep Rising.And here I was, thinking the whole time it said Jerry Goldsmith in the credits and on my CD.

NP: Eraser - "When I Have Proof" ***/*****
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posted 03-31-2000 11:41 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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BLOWN AWAY and VOLCANO are great action scores.SOAPDISH is a surprising and likable comedy score, mainly written as a mambo -- my favorite comedy score from that year, as I recall (1991, wasn't it?) Vibrant and interesting music, not the kind of lightweight stuff you expect from the average comedy score.
I don't have much Silvestri, but of those you already mentioned and those I just did, we seem to have covered what I consider to be his best.
posted 03-31-2000 11:42 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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How about The Quick and The Dead. I was watching it on TBS the other day and thought the music was pretty good. (I had seen the film before, but that was in my score-collecting infancy, so I didn't pay much attention to the score).It's certainly Predator-esque, wouldn't you say?
NP: Eraser - "Cyrez Break In" ***/******
posted 03-31-2000 11:47 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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I'd forgotten THE QUICK AND THE DEAD -- don't own it as yet, but I liked it a lot. At the time, that one fell into the category of "if it shows up for cheap enough," and it never did. Today it would fall into the category of "where's the expanded promo?" The original CD is one of those Varese thirty-minute jobbies, isn't it? (Well, that might not stop me, there might never BE an expanded one.)I don't, however, particularly recommend RICOCHET ... that was relatively ordinary, alas. Varese CD does contain his logo music for Silver Pictures, however.
posted 03-31-2000 11:52 PM PT (US) 
JJH

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didn't we just have a long thread abotu this composer?
anyway, I like Forrest Gump and Contact.posted 04-01-2000 12:09 AM PT (US) 
dantoris

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JJH - Sorry. If there was, I didn't know about it. It might've been before I came along here. I've just realized (somehow) that Silvestri is one of my favorite composers, so I wanted to know what else I should get.Any thoughts on a CD I just found out about searching Yahoo! called Voyages, a Silvestri compilation? (Also includes the Silver Pictures logo.)
NP: The Lost World - "The Island Prologue" ****/*****
posted 04-01-2000 12:36 AM PT (US) 
Andre Lux
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These are the ones I have:1) THE ABYSS (his fineste work) ****
2) FERNGULLY (all synths, but interesting) ***
3) FORREST GUMP (cheesy, but nice) ***
4) THE QUICK AND THE DEAD (some bombastic parts run against the good and gentle moments) ***
5) JUDGE DREDD (he probably got inspired by Goldsmith glorious trailer music and did a great action score, different from all the other repetitive stuff he has done) ****
6) CONTACT (again, the bombastic cues run against the good parts) ***
Others I like are: PREDATOR (but won't pay lots of bucks for a boot), BACK TO THE FUTURE (contains some nice cues).
Nothing else, I'm afraid.
posted 04-01-2000 04:02 AM PT (US) 
JJH

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does anyone have Shattered or The Clan of the Cave Bear?NP -- Un Sourire (A Smile), Olivier Messiaen
posted 04-01-2000 06:14 AM PT (US) 
SBD
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I personally like RICOCHET.
I happen to love:THE ABYSS(Sure, the last three tracks are good, but the first ten tracks have merit, particularly "The Crane" & "Sub Battle", which sound as if they were lifted from PREDATOR)
MOUSE HUNT(One of Silvestri's all-time best, it cries out for an expanded boot)
DEATH BECOMES HER(Another great comedy score)
I also like:
SGT. BILKO
SUPER MARIO BROS.
GRUMPY OLD MEN
RICHIE RICH, and
JUDGMENT NIGHT, which has, inexplicably, never been released in any form.As for pronounciations, I thought it was "Sil-ves-TRY", but I think it's "Sil-ves-TREE", but that's just me.
posted 04-01-2000 08:14 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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I have CLAN OF THE CAVE BEAR -- entirely electronic, and weirdly suggestive of CHARIOTS OF FIRE in places, but not bad at all. Another of his all-synth scores, DELTA FORCE, is strong and fun. I haven't listened to either of these in years, but they're lying around someplace ...
posted 04-01-2000 09:26 AM PT (US) 
robin4

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Pretty much anything by him is good!
posted 04-01-2000 09:38 AM PT (US) 
Justin

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You know I didn't stop to think about that Robin. Basically everything he does is good, good point.
posted 04-01-2000 10:05 AM PT (US) 
Ford A. Thaxton

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My best suggestion on Alan Silvestri..Buy the VARESE SARABANDE compilation "Voyages: Film Music of Alan Silvestri".
It contains a great cross-section of his scores and is a wonderful overview of his career.
It's the single best place to start your Silvestri collection with.
IMHO of course.Regards
Ford A. Thaxtonposted 04-01-2000 02:58 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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At 07:13 PM 4/1/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Just thought you might want to fix your Silvestri filmography... Jerry
>Goldsmith composed the score for Deep Rising, not Alan Silvestri.
>
>Thanks,
>Jeron MooreThanks for the correction. Silvestri was originally slated to score the
film, and we've just neglected to remove the reference after Goldsmith got
the job.
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Timmer

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There's one that doesn't get mentioned often!
(Your H'ness) QUEST FOR FIRE by Philip Sarde, Is it available on C.D.??I still have the old L.P. fold out!!
NP : Mission to Mars - by Anyold Maccaroni 5/5
posted 04-01-2000 05:39 PM PT (US) 
Andre Lux
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QUEST FOR FIRE is available on CD.Milan CD FMC 1
But I have to say it's the most discusting CD release I've ever seem! The sound is ok, but the CD cover is just horrible... specially if you have the original fold out LP... But the music is great anyway...
posted 04-02-2000 09:14 AM PT (US) 
pietari

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Most of Silvestri`s best work doesn`t get commercially released which is quite annoying. Sure, some of the albums are alright, but scores like Volcano, Mousehunt, Quick and the Dead and Blown away (available on a short and bad-sounding boot) are crying out for expanded releases.
How`s his score to Reindeer Games? I`d imagine it having similarities with Long Kiss Goodnight.NP- Under Siege 2 complete *****/*****
(any one have the track listing for this one?)posted 04-02-2000 10:37 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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I only have his "Demolition Man", but that's very good. Recommended even though the CDs contains a bunch of songs that I never listen to; still, Silvestri's score runs for 30 or 40 minutes.I also remember being impressed by the "Abyss" score, but I never bought it because it's rather expensive, and it's been a long time since I've heard it in the movie.
I'd pick up "Roger Rabbit" if I found it anywhere, but it's out of print, right?
posted 04-02-2000 03:26 PM PT (US) 
sabbey

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quote:
Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
I only have his "Demolition Man", but that's very good. Recommended even though the CDs contains a bunch of songs that I never listen to; still, Silvestri's score runs for 30 or 40 minutes.I also remember being impressed by the "Abyss" score, but I never bought it because it's rather expensive, and it's been a long time since I've heard it in the movie.
I'd pick up "Roger Rabbit" if I found it anywhere, but it's out of print, right?
Isn't Demolition Man from Elliot Goldenthal? Either way, I am planning on getting it. How is the score?
Thanks.
Regards,
Sean Robert Abbeyposted 04-02-2000 04:24 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Yeah... Demolition Man is by Elliot Goldenthal. I think Marian might be thinking of Judge Dredd. In that case, yes! Get Dredd - it's a splendid score.Jeron
posted 04-02-2000 04:30 PM PT (US) 
sabbey

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Judge Dredd? Okay, yes that is an great score. personally I like the songs as well, but that might just be me.
I wonder how much additional score is within the film, would it be enough for an expanded soundtrack?
Regards,
Sean Robert Abbeyposted 04-02-2000 04:53 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Rounding off any further questions about JUDGE DREDD before they get filed: Yes, Jerry Goldsmith was originally slated to score this, and yes he wrote music for the trailer, and you can quickly and easily download both recorded versions (that I know of -- Goldsmith's version AND the rerecording) at the DECONSTRUCTING GOLDSMITH website:
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/9059/goldsmith.htmIt's not my own website, in fact I don't even run a website, in fact I don't even know the guys who do run it. But it's a good one, the best Goldsmith site I've ever seen, and there are other wonderful tidbits available there that I absolutely recommend (start with HOLLISTER at least!) Not just MP3s, but great links to great articles. If you really care about Mr. Goldsmith, then you owe it to yourself to go there. (This is probably the tenth recommendation I've ever made for this site ... they should be forwarding me royalties at this point ... )
Seriously,
H.
posted 04-02-2000 05:14 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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Course, the music's in RealAudio, which leaves me out of the enjoyment.
posted 04-02-2000 05:25 PM PT (US) 
joan hue

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H Rocco is right. Deconstructing Goldsmith is a wonderful site. Glad he recommended Hollister; I love the little bit I hear of it, so yesterday I searched and searched for some information on this video. I figured it would be a cheap video that I'd buy just to tape the main theme from the TV. ZERO luck. IMDb had nada, even on Joel Goldsmith's composition. A web search and a video on line search equaled zero. Anybody ever seen (heard) this movie?
posted 04-02-2000 06:18 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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The DECONSTRUCTING site seems absolutely proud of the fact that the IMDb doesn't know about HOLLISTER (why haven't they tried to add it to the IMDb's files? If they don't, I will). My suspicion is that HOLLISTER was an hour-long pilot that didn't get sold, as with Goldsmith's DUSTY (which doesn't appear on the site at all, at least last time I looked.)I've already mentioned the site's heartbreaking minute-and-a-half OST clip from THE AGONY & THE ECSTASY. I ought to listen to the Intrada rerecording of the whole thing and see how it compares. Again. (My memory is that the Intrada recording doesn't rub the nerves quite as raw. Could just be me.)
dantoris, it doesn't cost anything to load a RealAudio player, doesn't cost anything except a little bit of time. Look into it, you're cheating yourself and missing a lot (not just from that one site).
NP: ALIEN NATION (clip downloaded from the aforementioned place)
posted 04-02-2000 10:16 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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I downloaded it once before, but it played hell with something else I had on the computer, so I had to get rid of it. But I'm considering ordering John Beal's trailer CD for the Judge Dredd. (Not just for that cue. There's some other trailer scores on there that I want as well.)
posted 04-02-2000 10:37 PM PT (US) 
Thor

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I am a huge Silvestri fan. The first soundtrack CD I ever bought (though not the first SOUNDTRACK as such) was THE ABYSS in 1989. It still stands as his magnum opus and one of my absolute favourites. You MUST get this, and it's widely available.Silvestri is, IMO, the best action writer there is, next to Goldsmith. His long sustained notes (particularly brass and strings) and rhythmic, semi-militaristic percussion is first class. He is also fully capable of subdued drama, although it sometimes tend to be a bit mushy (FORREST GUMP, CONTACT).
I'm happy that you've discovered Alan's talent, dantoris.
posted 04-03-2000 08:48 AM PT (US) 
JoeInSanDiego

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One of my favorites of Silvestri is Young Guns II and not just because I helped in getting him hired for the job...I just think he did a GREAT job with it. Clan of the Cave Bear has incredible moments of absolute beauty...followed by horrid moments of grunting and snare drums...hehehe. The good far outweighs the bad though. His score for Fandango is also a fun romp through several styles of music. Judge Dredd is perhaps his darkest score to date.NP - THE MUMMY COMPLETE (Disc 1) - Silvestri....ooops....Goldsmith

posted 04-03-2000 09:24 AM PT (US) 
Audacity

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Silvestri has been one of my favorite composers ever since I started collecting. I don't think anyone, even Goldsmith, can write action music, or fast paced themes as well as Silvestri. Some great scores have already been mentioned, here are some more.Bodyguard, this one is a little hard to come by, but definitely worth looking for. It is a bit repetitive but the action cues are very good. And it has some great jazzy slow themes as well.
I have to second Joe's recommendation of Young Guns II. Despite the fact that it has a lot of electronics, I think it is one of the best "post-western genre" western scores there is. What I mean by "post-western genre" is out of the more recent western's like Dances with Wolves and Tombstone...etc, I think it's one of the best.
I just received Richie Rich in the mail and was surprised how good it is, great main theme that Silvestri's gives many variations throughout the whole score.
Audacity
NP Hellraiser (Christopher Young)*Rating Pending*posted 04-04-2000 01:11 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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Jeron/sabbey: Of course, I was talking about "Judge Dredd". I always confuse the titles of those two movies/scores.Still, both are really good. Silvestri's work is a true "kick-ass" action score, and "Demolition Man" is a good, typical Goldenthal score. Has one of the most interesting synthesizer tracks I've heard ("Museum Dis Duel"). I was happy to get the score in a sale recently.
posted 04-05-2000 01:01 PM PT (US) 
Kris

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A couple of things:1) It's just funny how almost every thread ends up with Jerry Goldmsith being mentioned in it.

2) The problem with threads like 'Composer X recommendations' is that almost every score comosed by that composers ends up being listed. How the hell does the creator of the topic know what he has to buy?

3) There's one score by Silvestri I'd really like to be released (commercial or boot, I don't care): PRACTICAL MAGIC. One day I'll just buy the song album for those two cues.
np Days of Thunder ****
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posted 04-06-2000 01:37 AM PT (US) 
Audacity

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Ha Ha,Kris just touch on an important subject that I was thinking about last night.
Kris said,
"The problem with threads like 'Composer X recommendations' is that almost every score comosed by that composers ends up being listed. How the hell does the creator of the topic know what he has to buy?"
This is where I believe the NP idea comes into play. By reading everyones NP and seeing how many stars they give 'score X', I know which board members have realatively the same taste in music as me.
That and the fact that I have talked to a lot of the board members, makes it easy for me to tell what kind of scores that person likes. Me and Dan have somewhat different interests in the kind of scores we like, but I have gotten to know him so well that I know he likes slower themes more than hard action themes, even though I am the opposite.
So I think the key is to find someone that has pretty much the same taste in music as you and listen to their recommendations. You can also visit the soundtrack reviews section to get an idea of this.
Audacity
NP Mac & Me (Alan Silvestri)****[This message has been edited by Audacity (edited 07 April 2000).]
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