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Topic: New "Temple of Doom" Cues
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Wedge
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Hey, all! Head on over to Ricard Befan's awesome site johnwilliams.cjb.net I recently goofed around with my new "Temple of Doom" VHS. I ripped two audio cues, edited out the dialogue, encoded them and sent them to Befan. Now he's posted them -- just check the front page! Everyone should hear these cues. The 40-minute CD release definitely misrepresented this magnificent Williams masterpiece!
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posted 03-31-2000 10:51 AM PT (US) ip
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H Rocco
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I certainly agree about the original CD being a poor representation, but my God, Wedge, "ripped out the dialogue?" What kind of technology do you HAVE over there? It could make you quite dangerous ... are you working on (fill in the blank, any blank) yet????Maybe you wouldn't want to explain in this particular forum ... (remember, we know for certain that MGM is watching ... )
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posted 03-31-2000 12:45 PM PT (US) ip
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dantoris
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Wedge - How about doing the same to get me a complete U.S. Marshals score? For pay/trade, of course.
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posted 03-31-2000 01:22 PM PT (US) ip
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Wedge
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Whoa! Hold the phone, Rocco!  I never said I "ripped out the dialogue." I ripped the AUDIO, then EDITED out the dialogue. It was a cut, paste and splice job! There are still sound effects, just no voices.TRUST me, I do NOT have the capability to separate voices from music ... IF those programs exist (and I'm looking, boy am I looking,) they're probably hundreds and hundreds of dollars. (Not that I couldn't make it back.  )
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posted 03-31-2000 01:43 PM PT (US) ip
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Valere
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Wedge,I have been doing this for years with movies. I would audiotape the whole movie off of TV,and then put the music track together. In other mixes,if I had the LP,I would mix the tracks of the cues together. This is like making a temp track until you can get a hold of the full score! There MUST be a way to run this thru a computer,and pull out the dialog and sound efx,and leave you with just the music. Now,if we could do that,I think a lot of people would be out of business! I still have a mix of Kaper's TOBRUK that I drag out once in a while,because you can't get it anywhere else![This message has been edited by Valere (edited 31 March 2000).]
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posted 03-31-2000 03:43 PM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig
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I doubt that this will be possible (at least at reasonable costs) for the next years. It's at least virtually impossible to safely distinguish between music, sound fx and dialogue. Well, maybe dialogue can be removed, but the difference between a cymbal crash combined with timpani, and a gun shot, is probably hard to define.There ARE programs that can remove the vocals from some songs. They simply invert one of the 2 stereo channels. This has the effect that everything that is played in mono gets deleted (because it's played normally on one channel and exactly inverted on the other). As generally the lead singer is recorded more or less in mono, this is supposed to work. Never tested it, though.
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posted 03-31-2000 04:18 PM PT (US) ip
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