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Topic: Elia Cmiral interviewed

dantoris

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Finally. Hours of searching on the Internet have finally paid off. Cmiral is quickly becoming one of my favorites composers, based on Ronin and his early Nash Bridges scores, and I think Battlefield Earth will be his best yet, and the film that puts his name on the map.For those interested, here is the interview I happened to come across in my search for more info on this talented man.
NP: Chris Gaines: Greatest Hits - "Digging For Gold" ****/*****
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posted 03-30-2000 01:47 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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This is certainly the best piece about Cmiral that I have read. I mention this in part just to mention it, and to thank Dantoris for alerting us to it, and, by posting a reply, to catapult this one back to the Top of the Board. (I have a suspicion people don't pay too much attention to older messages with no replies attached.)NP: CRIMINAL LAW (Jerry somebody) (not Fielding, someone else -- what's he called?)
posted 03-30-2000 02:49 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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I agree, Rocco. I've seen that before where a good post has no replies and are a couple pages back.It may also be that not many people here are interested in Cmiral. I posted something about him awhile back, and only got one response. And one before that disappeared from the front page by the end of the day and has since been lost in the vast landscape of posts floating around here.
Like I said, I think his score for Battlefield Earth will be his best yet, and put this guy on the map.
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posted 03-30-2000 02:55 PM PT (US) 
dex

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Thanks for the link, dantoris. I, too, an growing to become a huge fan of Elia Cmiral, and can't wait to here what he's done with "Battlefield Earth."
posted 03-30-2000 05:46 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Hmmm, the eternal enemies Dantoris and Dex in agreement again ... what's the world coming to.I agree that BATTLEFIELD EARTH ought to put Cmiral on the map even more solidly than RONIN did, although I must say the movie looks like such a bizarre embarrassment that Cmiral may only benefit from more interest from soundtrack fans. (I'm actually massively looking forward to it because it looks so very WEIRD. I hope they've managed to keep some of the flavor of Hubbard's lunatic prose.)
I read elsewhere that BATTLEFIELD EARTH is being recorded (already is recorded?) in Seattle. That means the album should be nice and long, since there are no re-use rights for Seattle (Washington is a so-called "right-to-work" state, as is Utah -- don't ask me how this works, I've never quite understood it, but that's why, for instance, Varese used to record in Utah a lot).
NP: BASIC INSTINCT (not recorded in Utah)
So now to push "submit reply," and back to the top with this one ... I do so as much as a vote of confidence for Mr. Cmiral as any other reason.
posted 03-31-2000 12:23 AM PT (US) 
dantoris

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Thanks for the info.Too bad U.S. Marshals wasn't recorded in Utah or Seattle.
NP: Soldier - "The Final Battle" ****/*****
posted 03-31-2000 01:03 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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I'm putting this one back to the top. People really should read about Mr. Cmiral.
posted 04-01-2000 01:16 AM PT (US) 
dantoris

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Thanks, Rocco, but like I said above, it would appear we're the only ones interested in Cmiral's work.(Isn't that sad?)

NP: Soldier - "Todd Is Exiled" *****/*****
By the way, Rocco - did you ever see why response to the Soldier/Blade Runner connection?
posted 04-01-2000 01:32 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Yes, I did see your mention of that, Dantoris ... thanks, it (the connection) went right over my head when I saw SOLDIER.I want to keep this one alive, partly out of pure stubbornness, but also because I think Mr. Cmiral really IS important and -- well, perhaps it will take BATTLEFIELD EARTH for people to tune in to him. Then the whole lot of 'em will be begging and pleading to have that link to the interview back. (You might want to refurnish that link to the NASH BRIDGES theme, although it seems people were underwhelmed by it ... no great booming masterpiece, perhaps, but an interesting tidbit from an interesting talent.)
posted 04-01-2000 09:32 AM PT (US) 
dantoris

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Nice to see someone as interested in Cmiral as I am.Here's the link to the Nash Bridges theme. I didn't start watching the series until the third season or so, so I have no idea how his scores for the first twelve episodes were. The series will soon be hitting its 100th episode. Once that happens, the show should go into syndication, then I'll have a chance to see those early, mid-season replacement episodes he scored.
NP:Ronin - "Getaway" ****/***** (coincedence????????)
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posted 04-01-2000 10:25 AM PT (US) 
James

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Thanks for the links, Dantoris! I have not heard a single note of Cmiral's music (I'm about to check out that link to the Nash Bridges theme) but I am definitely interested now.James
NP - Peer Gynt (Ingrid's Lament)posted 04-01-2000 07:58 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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Glad to see someone else is interested. Let me know what you think of the theme.
posted 04-01-2000 08:06 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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James, RONIN is a terrific movie as well as sporting a fine score by Elia Cmiral. You should not be disappointed. (Dialogue, and, I suspect, much of the plot, is by the estimable David Mamet using the pseudonym Richard Weisz.)
posted 04-01-2000 08:34 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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I saw Ronin three times in the theater and five since buying the DVD, so it HAS to be good.I give it:
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posted 04-01-2000 08:51 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Listen to the man ...
posted 04-01-2000 08:55 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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*bowing at the waist*Thank you.
posted 04-01-2000 11:11 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Back atcha, pal. (James, you didn't say if you saw RONIN yet. We're watching. We're waiting. You HAVE to see it. We won't just let it go ... chuckle chuckle ... )
posted 04-02-2000 05:33 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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Rocco - This is amazing. This is the only post I've ever seen that was kept alive by two people.
posted 04-02-2000 07:41 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Heh, I said I was stubborn ...
posted 04-02-2000 09:54 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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Rocco - We may have to create an Elia Cmiral worship webpage.(Dantoris leans back in his chair, chin resting on his fist, lost in thought . . .)
posted 04-02-2000 10:03 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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In fact, I may even start tonight.Hmmmm . . .
posted 04-02-2000 10:28 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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Excellant news from the same site the interview came from:---------------------------------------------
2000-03-31: Elia Cmiral's large scale score for Roger Christian's science fiction epic Battlefield Earth (based on the post-Apocalyptic novel by L. Ron Hubbard and starring John Travolta), is going to be released by Varèse Sarabande. According to the label, the score "looks to STAR WARS, BLADE RUNNER and THE MATRIX and then goes off and creates an entire world of its own."
---------------------------------------------This is great news indeed, though I'm worried about it being released on Varese. Let's pray (guess you and I will be the only ones doing so, Rocco) that they give us as generous a dose of this score as they did for Ronin.
NP: Predator 2 *****/*****
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posted 04-02-2000 10:50 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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dantoris, if this score is as good as I suspect it will be, then it will transpire just as I said above: the whole bloody ungrateful lot of them (they call themselves FANS????) will be begging for any and every ounce of information about this character (remember, you guys, his name is ELIA CMIRAL, with a hard C) -- as is remotely possible.And we'll have been there first!
(Website? WEBSITE? I can think of other composers I'd RATHER start with, but a website for Mr. Cmiral would be welcome and intriguing ... I don't know much more about him than is conventionally availabe. Didja see APARTMENT ZERO yet?)
P.S. if it's true that BATTLEFIELD EARTH was recorded in Seattle, then the Varese album should really be, as I said above, nice and long. They don't put out those thirty-minute jobbies just to be mean, y'know ... as you know, it's just a question of budgets and business.
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posted 04-02-2000 10:56 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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I only just saw this in the post below about "upcoming soundtrack releases" -- perhaps you all already digested this one, but I hadn't: Intrada is releasing something by Cmiral called THE LAST EXPRESS. Cool ...
posted 04-02-2000 11:38 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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The Last Express is his score for a video game. I've never heard of the game before, but am now searching for it to find out if the score is worth buying. (Probably is).
And my sites already started. Check it out here . The information was compiled from both IMDB.com and the site the interview came from. I hope to be adding a review of Ronin (his only score I've heard so far) within a couple days, but the Nash Bridges theme will be up within the hour.(Haha!! I LOVE making websites!!)
NP: The Last of the Mohicans - "Pieces of A Story" *****/***** (Beautiful, excellant score, for a beautiful, excellant film)
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posted 04-03-2000 12:01 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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History in the making! I hope I was your first visitor (yes I just went there.)NP: THE WIND AND THE LION (by the fellow who was supposed to do RONIN, but I think it worked out well all around, since he did the wonderful 13TH WARRIOR instead and we had such a lavish and memorable introduction to a NEW guy who deserves MORE ATTENTION THAN JUST FROM DANTORIS AND MYSELF ["excuse me, was I raving?" Kudos to whoever gets that quote.])
(anyone who doesn't have THE WIND AND THE LION is REALLY missing out ... I don't know why I don't play this one twelve times a day. My God, it's SO beautiful.)
posted 04-03-2000 12:26 AM PT (US) 
dantoris

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Thank you. Yes, I believe you are the very first vistor.(Course, you're aslo the only member on the board who's obviously interested in Mr. Cmiral, so you'll probably be the only visitor.)
NP: Mars Attacks! - "End Credits" ***/***** (Not great, but certainly a fun listen. If only they had left out "Indian Love Call." ARGH!!)
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posted 04-03-2000 12:52 AM PT (US) 
dantoris

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Apparently, we're the only insomniac Elia Cmiral fans on the board.NP: The Peacemaker - "Trains" *****/*****
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posted 04-03-2000 12:55 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Give it time, bud ... BATTLEFIELD EARTH ought to make 'em wake up ...NP: nothing, it's really time for bed (YOU'VE got an excuse, you live in a whole other time zone ... )
posted 04-03-2000 02:18 AM PT (US) 
sabbey

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quote:
Originally posted by H Rocco:I want to keep this one alive, partly out of pure stubbornness, but also because I think Mr. Cmiral really IS important and -- well, perhaps it will take BATTLEFIELD EARTH for people to tune in to him.
Actually I have never thought that much of this particular composer, since I have not heard an single piece of his work.

However from what I have seen of the movie in previews and other info about the score in particular, I will definitely pre-order the Varese CD of it, when it is listed at the online stores. Than again, I probably would have done so if he was composing it or not.

Though hopefully as you said, hearing this score, would make me want to hear the others of his. Has he done many scores? I know of Ronin and Stigmata, what else has he done?
Thanks very much, since you all are at least part of the reason, I want to get to know this composer.

Regards,
Sean Robert Abbeyposted 04-03-2000 03:58 AM PT (US) 
dantoris

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sabbey - Visit my link a couple posts above for a list of what he's scored. Mostly foreign films, but you can find his opening season theme for Nash Bridges. I hope to be adding more throughout the week.[This message has been edited by dantoris (edited 03 April 2000).]
posted 04-03-2000 10:19 AM PT (US) 
dantoris

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Hahahaha!! I beat you, Rocco, I beat you!! Now it's MY turn to return this post to the top of the board! Mwhahahah!!NP: Nash Bridges - "Theme" *****/***** (Can't wait for the syndication showings to begin so I can hear his scores for the first twelve episodes. Course, I'll probably want them like hell after hearing them!)
posted 04-03-2000 09:51 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Heh ... you're more'n welcome to have done so, chum. (Wait till BATTLEFIELD EARTH takes off and this thread balloons well past a hundred.)NP: TAKE A HARD RIDE (FSM version)
posted 04-03-2000 09:54 PM PT (US) 
James

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I can't play the theme!! NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! I was really looking forward to it, too. I've tried downloading the file five times and it never works. Either it downloads nothing but static or an error message comes up.James
posted 04-04-2000 01:44 PM PT (US) 
James

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By the way, I have not seen nor heard RONIN. Guess I should.
posted 04-04-2000 01:46 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Well ... yes!
posted 04-04-2000 01:56 PM PT (US) 
MWRuger

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Well, I finally read this thread and the interview. But I also have to admit that I am like a lot of other folk here, in that I have never heard any of his music. But maybe its time to take a listen.BTW, I have a sneaking suspicion that Battlefield Earth is going to bite hard. Why? Have you ever read that behemoth of a book? I don't think you can film it in a couple of hours and capture the story properly. (Besides, it wasn't that good anyway.)
Hopefully, the score will be good!
posted 04-04-2000 02:32 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Oh, the movie looks like an utter disaster to me, but that's halfway why I'm interested in it. Probably the biggest vanity production since Costner's THE POSTMAN (which I didn't see, for all I know it's a classic in disguise -- parts of the trailer looked spectacular -- but I don't get that vibe off BATTLEFIELD EARTH). This doesn't mean that Cmiral can't write a great score for it, though -- every composer has done that, the better of them MANY times.
posted 04-04-2000 03:23 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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James - The theme should work find. I'll give it another look ASAP and post back here if it I had to fix it and if it's working.Ruger - Actually, Battlefield Earth covers the first half of the book. Part 2, which the studio has already green-lighted and is already in pre-production, will cover the rest of the book. Travolta confirmed this in an interview.
Rocco - You have to see The Postman. It was the most Oscar-worthy film of 1997, and a masterpiece of filmmaking. Highly underrated. HIGHLY!! Hopefully, like Blade Runner and other films that were panned upon it's initial release, The Postman will become a classic and much very-respected film with age.
posted 04-04-2000 05:09 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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I did think I should give THE POSTMAN a shot, because one of the few film critics I respect, Matt Zoller Seitz of the NYPress, gave it a decent notice (while also singling out the very moments that the disastrous Warners trailer chose to highlight, and which made every single audience I saw it with roar with derisive laughter.) Among Seitz's observations were that Costner is a director who has a genuine sense of SCALE, something we already knew from the overrated but still decent DANCES WITH WOLVES; and this is something I suspected of THE POSTMAN already, based on certain shots seen even in the otherwise disastrous trailer (I already used the word "spectacular," didn't I? I do hope that the incompetents in Warners' ad dept. have been canned by now. Even Clint Eastwood, who PREFERS to work at Warners, has recently blasted their handling of his last picture or two.)Keeping an eye out.
I'll tell you when I get to it.
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