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dantoris Oscar® Winner	James - I just checked it, and it downloaded fine. I'm listening to it right now, actually. So try again. If you still have problem, go here and try it. It's the official Nash Bridges website, where it originally came from. It's near the bottom of the page. Good luck! [This message has been edited by dantoris (edited 04 April 2000).]
posted 04-04-2000 05:59 PM PT (US)

dantoris Oscar® Winner	YEAH!! We hit the big 40, Rocco. YEAH!! (Well, actually, it's 41 now). Someone (I think it was you) mentioned Cmiral's Nash Bridges theme sounded like Goldsmith's Under Fire. If that's true, is that a score I should seek out and buy? I've never seen the more nor have I heard any parts of the score. But I love anything that has a pan flute.
posted 04-04-2000 06:06 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	I don't remember if it was me who compared NASH BRIDGES to UNDER FIRE -- there really is no comparison except for the pan flutes -- but WITHOUT A DOUBT you MUST pick up UNDER FIRE, one of Goldsmith's VERY BEST ALBUMS EVER and easily one of the best and -- this is vital -- most ACCESSIBLE soundtrack albums of the 1980s. I don't know anyone, whether they like film scores or not, who fails to respond to UNDER FIRE. (Remember when I said THAT in an earlier thread? Even Mr. 2 agreed with me. Although he's being a good boy on this particular thread; it seems increasingly falling to me to be the ogre. Well, somebody's gotta.) If you're wondering about what to look for or wait for, I think there will not be an expanded UNDER FIRE, since the original soundtrack itself was kind of expanded -- the movie didn't seem to HAVE much music, at least to my ear, and certainly the gorgeous opening "Bajo Fuego" isn't to be heard, as such, in the film -- and as well the UNDER FIRE album was a rerecording of the original soundtrack version (Goldsmith conducted the National Philharmonic for the Warners LP, I believe, which was reissued in Japan on CD ... pretty rare now, but [I know, evil evil evil] there are bound to be CDRs.) At most there might conceivably be an OST version of UNDER FIRE, as there has been with CAPRICORN ONE and THE SWARM. But the existing album conducted and produced by Goldsmith is one of his best and brightest. NP: "THEMES" by Vangelis (now end title, THE BOUNTY)
posted 04-04-2000 08:41 PM PT (US)

MWRuger Oscar® Winner	Hier Rocco: I would also recommend the Postman. I liked it well enough to see it twice on cable. I wish I had seen it the theater. Nice visuals. It could be that I was so ready for it to be bad that it couldn’t help but be better than my expectations. Being born in the 60’s, I was always a sucker for an end of the world story. After all, they kept telling us it was right around the corner Dantoris, I still have my doubts about Battlefield. I mean it just wasn’t that good to me. It totally blew my suspension of disbelief in the first 100 or so pages. (That is only the 1st tenth of the thing). But the score could be great! Still, I ‘ll probably give it a look as I do like SF.
posted 04-04-2000 08:49 PM PT (US)

dantoris Oscar® Winner	I, too, wish I had seen The Postman in the theaters. I love epics, as long as the story is worthy of a three-hour treatment, and it certainly is in this film. The DVD is breathtaking. Everything is crisp and clean, but it is lacking a Costner commentary, which I would absolutely love to hear. And hey - I've seen it eight times since buying the DVD, so it HAS to be good. Check it out, Rocco. You shouldn't be disappointed.
posted 04-04-2000 09:54 PM PT (US)

starblade Oscar® Winner	Hi dantoris and H Rocco! I've been meaning to respond to this thread for a couple of days, but something else always came up before I did. Yes, I really liked Ronin (score and movie) The movie reminded me a lot of The French Connection (duh, wasn't that also frankenfurt--I mean Frankenbea--doh! you know who I'm talking about). The only thing that left a bad taste in my mouth in the end was------WHAT WAS IN THE FRICKIN' CASE?!?!?! I think BE will establish Cmiral firmly into the film music mindset of fans and professionals because it will show his wide range of scoring; Stigmata was the techno-y thingie, Ronin was the semi-subdued suspense thingie, Nash is the 'nice TV -quasi action/comedy thingie, BE will be his big, thick orchestral thingie (I think). Not many (relatively) composers span a wide range of styles of film music. (Not always their fault, but it still happens that way). About the Postman: I enjoyed the movie a lot. I was almost crying at the end. I wouldn't say it's the best movie ever made, but as far as scope and competentcy (as mentioned earlier) in storytelling, it's all good. NP-Under Fire (yes, I was influenced by previous posts) One of Goldsmith's best
posted 04-04-2000 10:01 PM PT (US)

dantoris Oscar® Winner	Where ya at tonight, Rocco? I feel all alone in this thread. Well, at least I got some Jerry to keep my company. NP: Mulan - "The Burned Out Village" ***/*** (Whoever wrote this score sure was robbed at Oscar time.)
posted 04-05-2000 12:48 AM PT (US)

dantoris Oscar® Winner	Actually, starblade, if I recall correctly, William Friedken directed The French Connection and it's much better "sequel" (more of a spin-off, actually), The Seven-Ups. NP: Outbreak - "Main Titles" */*** (Slow CD, but has it's moments. Where's more of the action? I remember more in the film!)
posted 04-05-2000 12:52 AM PT (US)

dantoris Oscar® Winner	What cracks me up is that the critics seem to forget how much they loved Costner when he made Dances With Wolves, Field of Dreams, Bull Durham (his worst movie) and others. They raved about what a great actor he was in them, but now they act like he never made those and continue to bash him. (That's why I was so happy he got the last laugh with Message In A Bottle, which just raked in the dough!) NP: Dances With Wolves - "The Buffalo Hunt" ***/***
posted 04-05-2000 05:37 PM PT (US)

dantoris Oscar® Winner	Just putting this one back up top. NP: Clear and Present Danger - "Main Title" */*** (Okay, but imagine if Goldsmith are scored it.)
posted 04-05-2000 10:06 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	Goldsmith wanted to do PATRIOT GAMES, y'know ... and Basil Poledouris, who'd done THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER for the same producers, supposedly wanted it so much he cut a beautiful demo tape. Nope. Horner. CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER's an odd one, I kind of like it, as it's more singular than PATRIOT GAMES, or even COURAGE UNDER FIRE. You never know when Horner's going to feel like doing something a little different ... (of course that Gayne Ballet Suite thing is in there too, but that's just a grace note)
posted 04-05-2000 10:14 PM PT (US)

dantoris Oscar® Winner	Goldsmith? Really? Oh, man! First I find out Silvestri was one of the ones lined up for Lost In Space (which is one of the worst pieces of film ever created). Man - I'd love to hear his take. Now I find out Goldsmith could've scored Patriot Games. I like Poledouris' music as well, but I can't even begin to imagine how great it would be if Goldsmith had scored it. What is the Gayne Ballet Suite, and where are there portions of it in C&PD? NP: see above - "The Laser-Guided Missile" [This message has been edited by dantoris (edited 05 April 2000).]
posted 04-05-2000 10:24 PM PT (US)

dantoris Oscar® Winner	I can definately hear The Rocketeer throughout this score, though. NP: see above - "Looking For Clues"
posted 04-05-2000 10:29 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	The Gayne Ballet Suite can be heard in 2001. Horner first used it (note for note, pretty much) in the main titles of ALIENS (that ethereal string stuff). Shows up again in PATRIOT GAMES for the chilly scenes in which we see the terrorist squads killed over "satellite" footage. Shows up again briefly in CLEAR & PRESENT, but I don't remember which cues. I thought the Suite's re-use in PATRIOT GAMES was actually weirdly effective, and its re-re-use in CLEAR & PRESENT at least an acceptable nod to the previous picture. Oh yes, what is "The Gayne Ballet Suite"? At this precise second, I can't remember who wrote this classical piece. How embarrassing. Khatchaturian? I'll go to the IMDb and see if they explain. (How embarrassing.) [This message has been edited by H Rocco (edited 05 April 2000).]
posted 04-05-2000 10:31 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	Aha, it's Aram Khatchaturian who wrote "Gayne Ballet Suite." Also wrote the music that served as the (acknowledged) basis of much of Carter Burwell's HUDSUCKER PROXY. He is VERY cool, I'll have to make him the target of my next classical-plunder at the library.
posted 04-05-2000 10:38 PM PT (US)

dantoris Oscar® Winner	Ah. Think I just heard it in "Deleting the Evidence," and I seem to recall it from Aliens and Patriot Games. Funny thing is, last time I watched Games on DVD, in the "Electronic Battlefield" sequence, my dad mentioned that he had heard the music before. Then when we watched Aliens, he said, "I've heard that before." We had forgotten about it being from the previously-mentioned film, but eventually made the connection. NP: see above - "Greer's Funeral/Betrayal"
posted 04-05-2000 10:40 PM PT (US)

dantoris Oscar® Winner	Rooco - Found another interview here. NP: Equalizer - "Title Theme" (.wav file) [This message has been edited by dantoris (edited 06 April 2000).]
posted 04-06-2000 02:22 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	Just read it, very nice. Also interesting links to dozens of other composer interviews, none of which I think I've seen before. Interesting thing about Frankenheimer ... either he works with one of his favored composers (or TRIES to), or he gives a relatively new guy a shot. Examples I can think of without diving into his filmography: David Amram (THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE), Don Ellis (FRENCH CONNECTION II), Gary Chang (I forget when they first hooked up, but Chang was unknown then), and now Cmiral.
posted 04-06-2000 09:29 PM PT (US)

sabbey Oscar® Winner	Just to let you all know, Amazon and CDNOW have Battlefield Earth available for pre-order. Which I will do. However I will wait until James Newton Howard's score to Dinosaur is listed as well. Would anyone have info on the BE score, such as what the running time will be? Or how many tracks will be included? Thanks. Regards, Sean Robert Abbey [This message has been edited by sabbey (edited 07 April 2000).]
posted 04-07-2000 02:16 AM PT (US)

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