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PeterK

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Hey Audacity,Just go ask James Horner if composers get royalties off of the OST. Horner's bank account would be about $25,000,000 shy of what it is today, thanks to Titanic.
Man!
PeterK
NP - "Fight Club" music by the Dust Brothers
posted 03-29-2000 03:21 PM PT (US) 
robin4

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Well, since we have ChrisN AND Thaxton, how about this one. Are there any plans for a Pitch Black score release??????? I, and many others, would appreciate it!!!!
posted 03-29-2000 04:46 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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Geez! I've never seen "Conan", and I doubt I like it when I see it, but an isolated score may just have made me buy the DVD!As has been mentioned, from a fan point of view, DVD iso scores are probably the best way to hear all of the music. I think it's a stupid idea (sorry) to mix them with sound fx, because I want to hear the MUSIC, and I also want to be able to make CDs from the iso score (I'll be doing this soon with "Alien" and "The Matrix"). To be honest, I will not buy the original "Matrix" soundtrack.
Still, does it make a difference for the composer if the people buy the score CD or the DVD? Because if it does NOT, most composers should be glad if their works are at least released in their entirety, even if they don't get any money for it. They don't get LESS money, either. OK, guys like Jerry Goldsmith who don't want to see much of their music released, are a different topic.
NP: The Lost World (Williams, great)
posted 03-29-2000 05:06 PM PT (US) 
Mark Olivarez

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Well not to sound like a smart*ss, but its been about 13 yrs. since DIE HARD and PREDATOR came out. When will we ever see a legit release of those? I would also love a legit release of GHOSTBUSTERS, maybe they could put a suite to GHOSTBUSTERS 2 on it as well. My point is, If it is available I will buy it and if it's available in "other" forms then I get it that way as well. Those damn union re-use fees!!!
posted 03-29-2000 05:07 PM PT (US) 
Andre Lux
unregistered
These people from Record Companies are quite funny! So, acording to their perfect logic, we shouldn't want DVD isolated scores neither bootlegs, since it's not only ilegal but the composer won't make any profit on it.
Not even from scores that were never released!! Because you never know when they will get proper release... Just look at "Magnificent Seven". It got only - what? - 30 years to get a release?I think it's fair enough for all of us to wait - who knows? - 20, 30, 40 years to finaly be able to hear a decent release of a score we like a lot...
Considering the fact that I'm 29 now I will probably be around 70 when scores like "PREDATOR" or "SPACEHUNTER" got their oficial release. And - lets say - more 20 years to get the complete score album! I think I'll keep my boots - just in case I don't get to 90...
What do you think?
LOL!!!

posted 03-29-2000 06:04 PM PT (US) 
Ford A. Thaxton

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Mr. Lux,It might interest you to know that the person at MGM who in large part was responible for making "The Maganificent Seven" possible for Ryko To Release was Mr. Chris Neel.
After you are done laughing , you might want to thank for that release.
It's people like him that make such releases possible.
Regards
Ford A. Thaxton[This message has been edited by Ford A. Thaxton (edited 29 March 2000).]
posted 03-29-2000 06:37 PM PT (US) 
Mark Olivarez

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Well I figure you only live once so you might as well enjoy life and get the most out of it you can. If the music is available in some form I'm gonna get it. Believe me Mr. Thaxton, I appreciate those who work to make those CDs available for the public, but hey, when you get a little taste you're gonna want more.
posted 03-29-2000 08:14 PM PT (US) 
Al

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robin4,Unfortunately, we fans of the "Pitch Black" score seem to be just plain out of luck. Varese has no plans to release it. That was our best shot at getting this album released too. Awww nuts.
posted 03-29-2000 08:30 PM PT (US) 
Andre Lux
unregistered
Mr. Thaxton,I sure thanks Mr. Chris Neel for that release, and you for several others in my collection - "Krull" (2cds), "Battlestar Gallactica" (4cds), "Dead Ringers", etc, etc...
But this won't make me agree with you guys when say we shouldn't want to listen to complete scores on DVD or any other source available.
I sure would buy any OFICIAL release of a complete score, but when there's no other option I will buy what I can get.
It's better than wait 30 years ("The Magnificent Seven") or 20 years ("Superman" - altough the original album was pretty good, thanks God!) to hear music I love so much, don't you think?Maybe if the Record Companies people stop complaining about what us, the buyers of his products, think about all these poor score releases and start trying to give us all the stuff, things would change for better.
We are here to support you guys. And, believe me, we are tired to spend our money on "Tomorrow Never Dies" (OST) then "Tomorrow Never Dies" (the "almost" complete score 3 years later), then "Tomorrow Never Dies" (The definitive complete score, to be released some day...), etc...
I don't know how to play the politically correct game. Just say what I think. Sorry if I offended someone.
Thanks.
posted 03-30-2000 04:54 AM PT (US) 
JJH

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personally,
I want the OPTION of being able to buy the score CD, or DVD with an isolated, or both (cant' really take the DVD in my car).why is the composer or record company gonna turn down my money? No one says you have to press 500,000 copies of the CD. press a few thousand CDs and let those of us who REALLY want the music have the option to buy it.
Surely there are enough big sellers out there to balance out.I know, stupid unrealistic idea. I can dream though, can't I?
NP -- Go Simpsonic With the Simpsons
posted 03-30-2000 05:22 AM PT (US) 
TimT

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So is it ok if I buy a CD like... Zimmer's regarding Henry for $13 and sell it for $50 on eBay years later? Is the composer still loosing out?
posted 03-30-2000 08:16 AM PT (US) 
ChrisN

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quote:
Originally posted by TimT:
So is it ok if I buy a CD like... Zimmer's regarding Henry for $13 and sell it for $50 on eBay years later? Is the composer still loosing out?When you're selling one CD, that's your personal property, you get to profit from the sale of that item. If you are selling copies of that score (CDR's or whatever) the owners, writers, and performers are losing out.
[This message has been edited by ChrisN (edited 30 March 2000).]
[This message has been edited by ChrisN (edited 30 March 2000).]
posted 03-30-2000 09:30 AM PT (US) 
TimT

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Ok one more question regarding CDRs.
Theres a CD I want, but it's long out of print (Robert Folks Selected Suites from Intrada)
Since Intrada no longer makes/sells copies, do they care if I get get someone to make me a CDR of it?
Ford? ChrisN?
posted 03-31-2000 06:45 AM PT (US) 
MWRuger

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I know I am not the one you addressed this to, but I will take a shot at an answer. They can (and will I hope) correct me where I misstep.Intrada would certainly object. Just because the CD is no longer available, does not mean that it is not still copyrighted and is not still fully protected by intellectual properties law.
If Intrada, at sometime, decides to re-issue the CD, you are damaging the market for it by making illegal copies of it. Are customers likely to buy a second print if they have a copy? Some would, most wouldn’t. Further on this point; they might not re-issue that album, but might make use of some of the material on another compilation. Unauthorized distribution of this CD could hurt sales of a potential updated CD.
Second, there is the question of public domain. If you are the holder of copyrighted material and you become aware of an infringement of those materials and do nothing to stop the infringement, the courts can rule that your copyright has lapsed and the material is now public domain. In other words, If you made copies and posted them on the web, Intrada found out about and did nothing, after a specified period of time (I don’t know how long) you could argue that the material is public domain and freely available. This is what happened to a lot of the Star Trek Fan sites that you used to see on the web. They got cease and desist orders from Paramount. Paramount zealously guards their copyrights because of this law.
So, I suspect that they would care, if they knew about your potential copy.
[This message has been edited by MWRuger (edited 31 March 2000).]
posted 03-31-2000 07:12 AM PT (US) 
TimT

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Well thats sounds logical.
And what does it take to get a score rereleased?
posted 03-31-2000 09:22 PM PT (US) 
MWRuger

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I would suspect proof of enough demand to not only cover the cost of re-manufacture but enough to insure profit as well.
posted 04-03-2000 07:09 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
