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Ford A. Thaxton Oscar® Winner	And the Oscar (For Song and Score) Goes to..... Best Original Song "You'll Be in My Heart" from TARZAN MUSIC AND LYRIC Phil Collins Best Original Score The Red Violin Music by John Corigliano
posted 03-26-2000 08:14 PM PT (US)

TimT Oscar® Winner	yeah we saw it....
posted 03-26-2000 08:55 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	Nothing is ever real until Ford tells us that it is.
posted 03-26-2000 09:45 PM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Oscar® Winner	It's too bad that Corigliano didn't win the award for the year he actually composed it. I was rootin' for Thomas Newman. Eternally ****ed off at the Academy Awards (here I thought that THIS year, I'd FINALLY get a score I LIKED to win!), Shaun
posted 03-26-2000 09:51 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	TARZAN, TARZAN, TARZAN!!!!!! --Kyp
posted 03-26-2000 09:59 PM PT (US)

DeadPoet Oscar® Winner	I agree Shaun, I think Newman deserved the award. He composed such a beautiful score for "American Beauty." --Jason S.
posted 03-26-2000 10:45 PM PT (US)

Chris Kinsinger Oscar® Winner	Fellas! Please help me out here! WHY are you opposed to Corigliano's "The Red Violin" score winning the Oscar? I was overwhelmed by it, and voted for it to win. I was very pleased that John C. got the award! I believe he deserved it...please tell me why I'm wrong about this, OK?
posted 03-26-2000 10:56 PM PT (US)

Ford A. Thaxton Oscar® Winner	The opinions being expressed might have more to do with the fact that they might not have either seen the film or heard the score? I know that some of you are disappointed that Thomas Newman didn't win for AMERCIAN BEAUTY. But before you start bitching too much, listen to THE RED VIOLIN. IMHO it's an outstanding effort and it's win was more then deserved. Now if you don't have the CD and want to hear a good chuck of it before spending your money, go to this week's edtion of SOUNDTRACK CINEMA @ film.com (http://www.film.com/reviews/rev_wild/stc/) it should be up until Tuesday Afternoon (Seattle Time). Don't feel too bad, Mr. Newman is a young man and I'm sure he'll bring home the gold sooner or later. Regards Ford A. Thaxton
posted 03-26-2000 11:06 PM PT (US)

Dan Brecher Oscar® Winner	Newman looked pi**ed off!! Really wanted him to get his recognition, although still feel he was more deserving for Green Mile, but still. Like Ford said, he will get there one day. Dan (UK) PS: Red Violin score, though maybe a tad repetitive, is LOVELY.
posted 03-26-2000 11:42 PM PT (US)

Thor Oscar® Winner	There is nothing wrong with THE RED VIOLIN score as such. It's fine. But the entire decision reeks of politics (nothing new in this game, I gather). Corigliano is a respected contemporary composer who has ventured into film music only 3 times. So, I just picture the voters saying: "Hey, it's Corigliano. He's better and more serious than any of these other film hacks, so we have to give the prize to him". I was also somewhat reserved about it being nominated in the first place, but what do I know? It's a good score.
posted 03-27-2000 08:07 AM PT (US)

Howard L Oscar® Winner	Dan & Thor: Did you guys actually see the movies of the scores you're pushing or ****ing over?
posted 03-27-2000 10:14 AM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	I haven't heard THE RED VIOLIN. But I know Corigliano is a fine composer. Worse things have ever, ever happened. Thomas Newman will always be scoring more films than Corigliano; therefore, he will always have more shots at the prize. I do wonder if his work is too subtle for most Academy voters to relate to (I thought if he had ANY shot at winning for AMERICAN BEAUTY, it would only be because of a general sweep -- which almost DID happen.)
posted 03-27-2000 08:12 PM PT (US)

Rang Oscar® Winner	I've seen THE RED VIOLIN, which is a fine film, though I'll admit I wasn't enamored with it on the first viewing, nor did John Corigliano's score overly impress me. Once it came out on video, I gave the film and Corigliano's score another view. Needless to say, digesting it a 2nd and 3rd time immensely helped improve my initial so-so reactions to both film and score. Now, I'm not upset that Corigliano won, or that Newman lost. In fact, I'm honestly happy for Corigliano. His acceptance speech was excellent - one of the most respectable and humble I've heard for the Best Score category by anyone in my short life span. As has been said by many, Corigliano's music was an extremely important and vital element in accompanying and propelling the film's narrative forward, and in perfectly coloring the setting. The same thing could, and I'd say, should, be said of Thomas Newman's work on AMERICAN BEAUTY. And though I also felt that Corgliano would win, I was pulling for Newman. For me, his score stood out, even more so than Corigliano's fine work. Too bad both didn't receive the award, ala IL POSTINO and POCAHANTOS. And I'll leave it at that: congratulations Mr. Corigliano!
posted 03-27-2000 09:56 PM PT (US)

Rang Oscar® Winner	I'd also like to point out that, really, Thomas Newman didn't loose for AMERICAN BEAUTY or THE GREEN MILE... John Williams didn't loose for ANGELA'S ASHES or THE PHANTOM MENACE... Patrick Doyle didn't loose for EST-OUEST (which was my favorite score from 1999)... James Newton Howard didn't loose for THE SIXTH SENSE, SNOW FALLING ON CEDARS, STIR OF ECHOES, MUMFORD, or RUNAWAY BRIDE... Gabriel Yared didn't loose for THE TALENTED MR. RIPLEY or MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE... Also, "put the name of any composer right here, in these parentheses, whether nominated or not" and then place "their score(s) in these paretheses, whether nominated or not" and they didn't loose... You see, here's how I look at it: if you enjoyed "this composer's" score for "this film," then what does it matter if they win an Oscar, or if they even get nominated? You like that score, and that's what matters. Sure, it's nice to receive that recognition - that "icing-on-the-cake" - but that's all it is. The score and the composer will stand the test of time on their own merits, not by any award that comes along.
posted 03-27-2000 10:37 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	Jerry Goldsmith has won ONE Oscar, and IMHO was lucky he even was awarded THAT one (of course he deserved it; I'm referring to the timing.) Alex North never got a single one (except for his special award). David Raksin never even got a SPECIAL award. Morricone -- ditto. Jerry Fielding -- ditto. Leonard Rosenman has two (consecutive!) Oscars for adaptation scores, but was never honored for his original compositions. Lalo Schifrin has rarely even been nominated, let alone won. Half of Bernard Herrmann's nominations came after he was already dead. Neither Akira Ifukube nor Masaru Sato have ever been nominated, or ever will be. Francesco DeMasi, Philippe Sarde, Wojciech Kilar -- where are ther nods? Was Les Baxter nominated? Jose Nieto? Gerald Fried? John Scott? Nope. But Alan Menken's collected ... what is it now? Eight of those gold boys? It's a shell game, people. Try not to lose too much sleep.
posted 03-27-2000 10:49 PM PT (US)

Thor Oscar® Winner	Howard - YES, I did see the film, and it was a great score (especially considering that music was such an important and integral part of the story), but I did not consider it the best of the year. I got the feeling that Corigliano surfed the price in on his rep, just like Phil Collins did in the song category. But that's just my theory. Don't put anything more into it than it is.
posted 03-29-2000 05:35 AM PT (US)

Bryan T Oscar® Winner	I was kind of glad that Corigliano won. Thomas Newman is a talented composer and his BEAUTY score was creative and effective in the film, but in my opinion, RED VIOLIN's music just had more character...I'm not surprised Phil Collins won for Song; I like the song, but I think Randy Newman deserved that one. It would have been funny if BLAME CANADA had won, though. That performance was probably the funniest thing Robin Williams has done in years.
posted 03-29-2000 09:08 AM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	"Funniest thing Robin Williams has done in years?" Jeez, didn't you see JAKOB THE LIAR? That was HYSTERICAL! At last, a Holocaust movie we can all feel GOOD about! (I didn't actually see JAKOB -- wild horses, dragging, failing etc. -- it was annoying enough when the same project was called LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL -- though from a creepy voyeuristic point of view, I'd be fascinated to see the original version of the whole concept, Jerry Lewis' "lost" film, THE DAY THE CLOWN CRIED.)
posted 03-29-2000 11:39 AM PT (US)

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