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    Topic:   Memorable melodies

     joan hue
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    While I realize it isn’t too scholarly to admit one loves hummable
    melodies, I do. To heck with erudition when it comes to gorgeous music.
    I enjoy a clear, usually three part -beginning, middle, and end- melody
    in filmscores more than consistently atonal, dissonant scores. (Although
    they have their place in the context of films.) Somewhere in a score I
    search for a melody. Melodies for me don’t have to always
    be slow. Both Conan soundtracks and the action cues from Goldsmith
    in movies like the Rambo series or his westerns are for me infinitely
    hummable. I’d like your suggestions on strong melodies.

    Some of my favorites are those mentioned above and:
    Newman’s Wuthering Heights, Waxman’s Mr. Robert’s theme,
    Barry’s Out of Africa, John Dunbar’s theme especially when
    sped up during the civil war scene, and Robin and Marian.
    I like Dying Young, The Piano, the Ludlow theme, Morricone’s
    Love Affair theme on piano and his Ecstasy of Gold. Today I watched
    Lionheart, with John Scott’s score and loved the melody. One
    of my favorites is Michel Legrand’s theme from Brian’s Song.
    (Am I sappy or what.) I’m sure there are many more that I enjoy, but
    I’d like to read your recommendations for lovely melodies. Thanks!

    NP Out of Africa ****/*****

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    posted 03-23-2000 05:57 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Cool thread Joan!

    -Galaxy Quest
    -Star Trek: TMP
    -Starship Troopers
    -James Bond
    -Indiana Jones
    -Armageddon (hey, it's hummable)
    -Twister
    -Star Wars anything...
    -Goldsmith anything... =)

    Jeron

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    posted 03-23-2000 06:10 PM PT (US)     

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    I'm off to bed now, But I'll just mention Ernest Gold's beautiful theme to Cross of Iron.

    NP : Conan The Destroyer has just finished.....night all

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    posted 03-23-2000 07:27 PM PT (US)     

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    When I saw this topic, I instantly clicked on it to mention Morricone's Love Affair score. It seems you beat me to it, joan. Good form!


    Of course, anything Goldsmith goes without saying.

    NP - Morricone's "Mission to Mars"

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    posted 03-23-2000 07:37 PM PT (US)     

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    This is cool and interesting thread Joan. As my favorite themes from movies I'd have to go with these:

    Body Heat (that's sultry sax hook you in)
    The Russia House
    Rudy
    Total Recall
    Reindeer Games
    Ghostbusters
    The Empire Strikes Back
    Playing By Heart
    Big
    The Goonies
    Die Hard
    Back to the Future
    The Shawshank Redempton
    The Abyss
    Mulholland Falls
    Point Break
    Summer of 42
    Carlito's Way
    The Hunt for Red October
    Murder In The First
    Dante's Peak
    Star Trek 2 The Wrath of Khan
    48 Hours
    Pyscho
    Fly Away Home
    The Freshman

    P.O.
    Body Heat (John Barry) ***/****

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    posted 03-23-2000 07:52 PM PT (US)     

     Scott
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    oh wow,

    there are so many.

    Anythign Williams and Goldsmith

    You may hate Horner, but he sure rights some of the best melodies.

    The Mighty has a great melody.

    Oh so many, too many to count.

    Gotta watch wrestling. Getting interesting.

    Scott

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    posted 03-23-2000 08:06 PM PT (US)     

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    My favourite theme melodies are:

    Back to the Future
    Roger Rabbit
    Honey, I Shrunk the Kids
    A Bug's Life
    Pee Wee's Big Adventure
    Star Wars (1, 2, or 3)
    Batman animated movie - "Ski Mask Vigilante"
    Batman
    Gremlins
    Great Mouse Detective
    Flintstones the movie theme
    Indiana Jones
    and many others.

    Cenzo


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    posted 03-23-2000 08:16 PM PT (US)     

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    I want to add a few that are just a bit more obscure...

    Heinz Roemheld's gorgeous "Ruby" from "Ruby Gentry", a memorable love theme (and song) which was also used very effectively in the Federico Fellini "Toby Dammit" sequence of the trilogy, "Spirits Of The Dead" (WHY isn't this one on home vid?). Haunting.
    Alex North's love theme for Spartacus & Varinia in "Spartacus".
    Jerome Moross's "Night In The Valley" theme from "The Valley Of Gwangi". Everytime I watch this movie, that wonderful theme is stuck in my head for DAYS!

    There it goes again...
    Joan, do you have this one on CD?
    I know you love western scores, and this is a great one!

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    posted 03-23-2000 08:17 PM PT (US)     

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    Too many to name, but I'll bring up one maybe no one else will: Alfred Newman's completely gorgeous WUTHERING HEIGHTS. Where's the full-scale Joel McNeely rerecording of THIS one, I ask you?

    Another less obvious choice: "Marion" and "Marion and Sam" from PSYCHO. Heartbreaking stuff in the middle of such a frozen landscape.

    The opening horn solo from THE LAND BEFORE TIME (even if it IS lifted from Bartok's "Wooden Prince," I think Horner's version is better. Horner also did a string variation of the same idea throughout ONCE AROUND.)

    "On Earth as It Is in Heaven" -- THE MISSION (Ennio Morricone)

    "I Remember" -- THE WIND AND THE LION (Goldsmith)

    Main theme from THE SUGARLAND EXPRESS -- John Williams

    "Something To Think About" -- HELLBOUND (Christopher Young)

    One could go on forever, but here's another no one ever mentions -- the Main and End Title theme to VENOM by Michael Kamen -- wretched movie that I'd only watch again just to kype those two cues. Someone GAVE me a copy of music from VENOM that Kamen himself had cut for that person -- but it didn't include that theme!!! I asked the guy why. He shrugged, "Maybe he didn't WRITE the main theme!" But I bet he did, it's just too typical of his twisty melodies.

    NP: SON OF GODZILLA (Masaru Sato) (okay, another great theme -- the worker's march from SON OF GODZILLA)


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    posted 03-23-2000 08:44 PM PT (US)     

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    Rocco, I PURPOSELY did not list "I Remember" from "The Wind And The Lion", so that you could.


    NP: "The Valley Of Gwangi" Jerome Moross

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    posted 03-23-2000 08:49 PM PT (US)     

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    I’d buy Newman’s Wuthering Heights in a heartbeat. It is so
    gorgeous.

    Yes, Chris, I saw Valley of Gwangi about a month ago. Loved the music
    and melodies. About three-fourths of the way through the movie, when
    they enter the dinosaur valley, his action music has the same background beats,
    rhythm, and almost the same instrumentation as the second theme (and my
    favorite) from The Big Country that occurs when the good guys
    enter the valley for the shoot out. (Make sense?)

    Some of the movies listed so far I haven’t seen but will. I keep a list
    next to my computer. I have not seen Cross of Iron, Ruby Gentry,
    Reindeer Games, Great Mouse Detective, Venom, Son of Godzilla
    or Spirits of the Dead. What a unique combination!! I finally had to
    explain to the videos stores that I rent a lot of older (and new) movies
    to hear the scores. (Last week they shook their heads when I hauled out South
    Park, Uncut AND The Iron Giant. I told them I’d quit my meds. )

    Lots of neat action scores mentioned that do have melodies. Another
    western melody I LOVE is Bassman’s Ride the High Country. (Thumbs
    up, PeterD!) I’m reading a book call PECKINPAH: THE WESTERN
    FILMS by Paul Seydor. He says Sam HATED the score, and Seydor
    agreed with him. (Taz fit right now. I would burn the book, but I need
    to find out if he liked Fielding’s score to The Wild Bunch. I should hope
    so.)

    A real piece of trivia ahead. I rented the movie Big Bad Mama II because
    I had heard a piece taped from the TV. Horrid movie. Composer’s name
    is Chuck Cirino. Check out IMBd for his other stellar compositions. Anyway
    it is a synth score. Near the end during the hostage exchange when the bad
    guy says, “Walk,” a most melodious, fantastic theme is played for only about
    40 seconds. Super western Morriconeish. If only it was longer and been
    orchestrated.

    NP The Big Country 5/5

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    posted 03-23-2000 09:59 PM PT (US)     

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    Joan, you can probably cross "Spirits Of The Dead" off of your list of movies to rent. At least for now.
    I LOVE this film, but have not seen it since its original release...when I was in HIGH SCHOOL (1968)!
    Fellini's "Toby Dammit" (starring Terence Stamp) is a haunting masterpiece that I want to see again.
    Sadly, the film is only currently available on a French language laserdisc...

    [This message has been edited by Chris Kinsinger (edited 23 March 2000).]

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    posted 03-23-2000 10:26 PM PT (US)     

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    Oooh, Rocco, HELLBOUND -- good choice. That's a theme that grabbed me from the first time I heard it.

    Some others:
    - Broughton's "Lost in Space"
    - Goldsmith's "Sleeping with the Enemy"
    - Morricone's "Bullworth" (suite 1)

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    posted 03-23-2000 10:30 PM PT (US)     

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    Ahem. David Raksin's Laura? Come on.

    While we're in the 40s, Rozsa's Double Indemnity, Spellbound and The Killers! For pete's sake all of you "Dragnet" television fans! THE KILLERS!!

    Ahem. The 30s???? The Bride of Frankenstein by Franz Waxman? "Entrance of Kong" from King Kong in 1933????

    Let's not think too hard!

    PeterK


    P.S. So it's been a long day. Sheesh!

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    posted 03-23-2000 11:57 PM PT (US)     

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    Chris,
    I presume that's the Silva release 'Gwangi'?, i'd hate to think I'm missing out on something!

    NP : Valley of Gwangi - Just HAD to put it on!!

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    posted 03-24-2000 05:14 AM PT (US)     

     Howard L
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    If you're talking about melody you may as well just say the composer's name and let it go: Max Steiner, Henry Mancini, etc. My choice for the single greatest melodic score (in toto) is easy: Victor Young's Around The World In 80 Days.

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    posted 03-24-2000 05:32 AM PT (US)     

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    I find myself humming these melodies often:

    THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER
    THE WAR OF THE ROSES
    TOTAL RECALL
    THE VANISHING
    THE ADDAMS FAMILY
    THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS
    MEMOIRS OF AN INVISIBLE MAN
    and...

    NP - Matilda ******/***** ("The Haunting")

    More to come...you DO realize how big this thread could get, right?

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    posted 03-24-2000 05:57 AM PT (US)     

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    All right! I just made this a hot topic!

    NP - Matilda ("The End of Trunchbull")

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    posted 03-24-2000 06:24 AM PT (US)     

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    Yes, Timmer, "Gwangi" is the Silva recording that also includes other Memorable Moross Melodies from "The War Lord", "Rachel, Rachel" (there's one that Joan has seen!), "The Mountain Road" and others. It's a great CD!
    You're correct, Joan, Moross's "Gwangi" music is very similar to his score for "The Big Country", which is why I love it so much!

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    posted 03-24-2000 06:42 AM PT (US)     

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    Hummable themes are required for my collection. I've only got about 200 CDs, cassette and LPs with hummable themes (many with more than one). You can check them out on the MovieMusic Profiles page.

    Marc

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    posted 03-24-2000 07:49 AM PT (US)     

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    Thank you PeterK for reminding us of the past greats. Melodies from the past that I often enjoy from watching AMC or listening to CD's are:
    King of Kings
    Greatest Story Ever Told
    Love Theme Taras Bulba
    An Affair to Remember
    Cimarron (Waxman's)
    Now Voyager
    Rome Adventure
    El Cid
    Ben Hur

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    posted 03-24-2000 10:56 PM PT (US)     

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    MARY, QUEEN OF SCOTS (John Barry)
    BLOWN AWAY (main title) (Alan Silvestri)
    FLOWERS IN THE ATTIC (Christopher Young)
    "The Ecstasy of Gold" from GOOD, BAD, UGLY (Ennio Morricone)
    "Makoto's Theme" from UNDERSEA BATTLESHIP (Akira Ifukube -- US title is ATRAGON)
    "Sanjuro's Theme" from YOJIMBO and SANJURO (Masaru Sato)
    "Rice Planting Theme" from SEVEN SAMURAI (Fumio Hayasaka)
    RICH & FAMOUS (Georges Delerue)
    DODES'KADEN (Toru Takemitsu)
    "Airport Goodbye" (PELICAN BRIEF, James Horner)
    "Luke and Leia" (JEDI, John Williams)
    "Carol Ann's Theme" (POLTERGEIST, Jerry Goldsmith)
    "Night Call [Grandma Jess's theme]" (POLTERGEIST II, Jerry Goldsmith)
    THE SPECIALIST (John Barry)
    FARGO (Carter Burwell)
    MILLER'S CROSSING (Carter Burwell)
    PSYCHO III (Carter Burwell) (twisty and tough to identify, but rewarding)
    CRITTERS main title (David Newman)
    AWAKENINGS (Randy Newman)
    THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION (Thomas Newman)
    STAR TREK: VOYAGER (Jerry Goldsmith)
    THE GHOST & MRS. MUIR (Bernard Herrmann)

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    posted 03-25-2000 12:18 AM PT (US)     

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    To my ears at least, John Williams shares much in common with Henry Mancini in seemingly effortlessly producing memorable melodies. My criteria for a memorable melody may be rather simplistic, however: basically it's a tune that stays around in your head, and, when whistled (not necessarily by me), actually sounds like something, as opposed to trying to whistle chords.

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    posted 03-25-2000 01:39 PM PT (US)     

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    One of the most hummable tunes I've heard in a long time was the main theme to 1492, which of course starts out with the choir doing nothing BUT humming.

    Kind of cool, and fun to hum to...that is until that blasted electronic cue comes in that reaks of Vagelis...that's a little harder to hum to.

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    posted 03-25-2000 10:47 PM PT (US)     

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    Cross of Iron is a good one. There are so many...Waxman's Taras,Bride of...Tiomkin's Giant,High & the Mighty,Navarone...Goodwin's 633 Squadron,Eagles Dare, Force 10...Anything by Barry...Goldsmith's Under Fire,Arthur's Farewell,and so many,many,more!Sir Arthur Bliss' Things to Come...Frank Cordell's KHARTHOUM...Bronislaw Kaper's TOBRUK....and so it goesand so it goes...

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    posted 03-26-2000 06:02 AM PT (US)     

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    The SOMEWHERE IN TIME theme by John Barry. The PRELUDE TO THE THEME FROM CARRIE by Pino Donaggio is the greatest 90 seconds of music ever written. (Although I still haven't heard Donaggio's DRESSED TO KILL. Which is why John Maher has lost all respect for me.)

    Memo to Chris Kinsinger: Were you really in that documentary called HIGH SCHOOL? I vaguely remember Pauline Kael's review of it. Was that in Harrisburg?

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    posted 03-26-2000 04:21 PM PT (US)     

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    These are the Composers I feel are capable of producing melody with effortless ease, in no particular order....

    Ennio Morricone, John Barry, John Williams, Basil poledouris, Lalo Shifrin, Michel LeGrand.

    Of those that are no longer with us, 'phew'!, Just TOO many to mention!

    NP : LOLITA - Ennio Morricone 4/5

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    posted 03-27-2000 05:04 PM PT (US)     

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    Well, hi Joan!

    A gal after my own heart. As Randy Newman once said: "Maybe there's places you wouldn't want melody. Don't know where that would be, though." I totally agree--melody is my emotional connection to a piece.

    Morricone, The Mission: The Falls, Gabriel's Oboe
    Williams' theme's for Star Wars & the main theme for E.T

    And a bunch of other stuff that H Rocco & Chris & others have already listed. I'd say timmer's list of composers is pretty accurate as well. A gift for melody is surprisingly uncommon, even among established composers.

    FYI Joan, MWRuger brought the C. Beck thread here. And hey, I'm STILL on topic because Beck's one of the rare composers working in television to write cues with melody lines--quite beautiful melodies, I might add. AND cues that actually have a beginning, middle and end, instead of the usual atmospherics or two notes & out stuff rampant in (so-called) scoring for television.

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    posted 03-28-2000 01:17 PM PT (US)     

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    Loved what you said about melody, debi. I rarely connect to any music that just aimlessly drones. Beck is the best on TV. His Buffy/Angel love theme was lovely and haunting.

    Just finished watching Cross of Iron, which several people mentioned on this thread. Throughout this ballet of blood, I kept wondering, "Where's the music, the melody?" And then that lovely melody some of you must have been talking about plays during the tragic and ironic killings near the end and in the end credits. The melody was astonishing as was the movie.

    NP Under Siege II So far NO melody, grumble, grumble. (In a bargain bin.)

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    posted 03-28-2000 02:56 PM PT (US)     

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    I find myself whistling and humming Henry Mancini's great main title to "Experiment in Terror", also his Meggie's Theme, from "The Thorn Birds". Hummable Hank you might call him.

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    posted 03-28-2000 03:05 PM PT (US)     

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    Memo to John Maher: In case you don't already know this, Henry Mancini's favorite Mancini score was TWO FOR THE ROAD. That's another one I haven't heard.


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    posted 03-28-2000 05:38 PM PT (US)     

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    Joan, You are spot on regarding Cross of Iron, It's a beautiful theme isn't it, for me it's up there with Gold's Exodus, As I remember, there wasn't that much score on the l.p. release which was mostly songs from the period.

    debi ...Good to see you here!

    NP : Lament For Beowulf - Howard Hanson

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    posted 03-29-2000 04:00 AM PT (US)     

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    Timmer,

    I've got the old Cross Of Iron LP "back home", and must admit I haven't heard it for years, but if I'm not mistaken there are no songs on it. Ernest Gold did incorporate some traditional melodies into his orchestral score, but that's about it.

    Anyway, you and Joan are right. The theme is wonderful ("Steiner's Theme" I believe, released also as a single). For my dad, film music began and ended with the Theme To Exodus, until he heard this!

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    posted 03-29-2000 01:01 PM PT (US)     

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    Lazlo,

    I guess I didn't know that "Two For the Road" was his favorite; although I certainly know the music. If was very famous, and got lots of radio play, back then.

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    posted 03-29-2000 01:12 PM PT (US)     

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    K, now I'm gonna HAVE to get Cross of Iron, after what everyone said.

    Joan--another quite lovely Beck melody is the Magic Snow music that played at the end of last year's Christmas episode, Amends--walking through the snow. Gorgeous melody plus OBOE--that instrument is just hauntingly beautiful.

    I just know there's a VERY obvious piece I'm not remembering. Gotta go home & check the collection…

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    posted 03-29-2000 03:00 PM PT (US)     

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    Graham,
    You may be right!,i have no reference regarding Cross of Iron which was stolen from me with a bunch of other l.p.s 10 years ago (I mentioned this on an old FSM thread, but that's enough of that!),I still have 'Steiner's theme on an old compilation tape of my own making!
    debi, Beck's music for BUFFY is indeed very good, a full score album would be great!.....But will it happen??

    Also, check out Vaughan Williams Concerto for Oboe and Strings in A minor.......
    Absolutely gorgeous!!!

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    posted 03-29-2000 03:54 PM PT (US)     

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    Those are all great. One of my favorites, besides the ones already up is PLUNKETT & MACLEANE. I love the way the song, Escape, sounds.

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    posted 03-30-2000 04:04 PM PT (US)     

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    Joan...Here is another of my favorites...RVW's 49th Parallel. I found this a long time ago on a London LP cond. by BH. Just recently picked up a MarcoPolo#8.223665 which has that,Story of a Flemish Farm,Coastal Command,and 3 Portraits from the England of Elizabeth. Nice disc.

    NP:RVW's London Symphony *****/*****

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    posted 03-30-2000 08:22 PM PT (US)     

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    Valere,
    I have the Marco Polo, Is there more of '49th' on the London L.P.?
    Good film too, as I remember?,Olivier get's Offed early on?!,quite propagandist?!,Was the film made during WWII?

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    posted 03-31-2000 06:58 AM PT (US)     

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    timmer: Great to "see" you, too! Last I heard, the BtVS score CD was "much closer," -- Fox & TVT records are negotiating. Which explains why FSM lists it as "forthcoming but not scheduled from TVT." Until then, there's always the mp3s. Thank God for sound cards & speakers! BTW, when there's oboe in a BtVS score, it's live, not synthed. And speaking of oboe, I have that Vaughn Williams Concerto & I couldn't agree more, it's gorgeous. Now, THE most beautiful classical melody I've ever heard--would be that tantalizing short & incredible piece in Rhapsody on a Theme by Paganini.

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