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dantoris Oscar® Winner	I'll be in town Friday for my film final, so I'm gonna stop by Tower Records for some score-hunting. I'm interested in all below, but will probably only be able to get two of them, especially if I pick up a DVD as well. So of the ones below, which two should I get? Dragonheart Escape From New York (newly remastered w/additional tracks - it was just released, wasn't it?) Scream 1 & 2 (the combo CD) Aliens Tomorrow Never Dies (expanded - I used to hate this one, but grew to like it after listening to the DVD ISO) The Edge Star Trek: Insurrection With the exception of TND, I don't remember to much about the music, but I enjoyed each of the films above (with the exception of TND). And I realize these are a lot (and if I could afford it, I'd buy them all), but I'm stuck as to which ones to get. Hopefully, some of you can help me decide by tomorrow night, Friday morning at the latest. [This message has been edited by dantoris (edited 22 March 2000).]
posted 03-22-2000 10:11 PM PT (US)

Cole Oscar® Winner	I would have to suggest Tomorrow never Dies and The Edge they are jus fanstastic. of course everyone is gonna suggest something different but...those two are the ones thatndo it for me. NP - Plunkett and Macleane
posted 03-22-2000 10:38 PM PT (US)

Lou Goldberg Oscar® Winner	The Edge all the way! I found the Trek score nothing special. NP: The Prisoner of Zenda (Henry Mancini)
posted 03-22-2000 10:45 PM PT (US)

J. Peter Wolk-Laniewski Oscar® Winner	Get Aliens for sure. A must have for any collection. James Horner before he went all Celtic/Disney.
posted 03-22-2000 10:58 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	I have the old Milan CD of ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK -- the synths are kind of aged-sounding, I can't imagine they'll sound much different whether remastered or not. But I like that music, it's the only Carpenter score I own (I'd consider owning THEY LIVE as well, except it's so repetitive). Whoa, correction, I also have ESCAPE FROM L.A., which Carpenter did with Shirley Walker (well, she did most of it.) STAR TREK INSURRECTION is one of Goldsmith's more boring scores of the past several years, at least to me. THE EDGE isn't much more dimensional, but is much more fun. ALIENS: mmm ... you're aware there's an expanded version out there? You can get that expanded boot, depending on the source, for just as much as it will cost you to get the "legit" version. Don't know which you're referring to, though. It's extremely derivative, but quite the brawny powerhouse, that score. DRAGONHEART: If you like Edelman, I suppose (I don't, much.) SCREAM 1&2: I've heard nothing but complaints about this one. Another Varese half-hour jobbie, except covering TWO scores in the same 30 minutes. I hold no great brief for the music, but there's bound to be a promo somewhere down the line (surprised there hasn't been one already -- perhaps Beltrami has a contract with Varese forbidding him to make one for X number of years.) TOMORROW NEVER DIES: who knows? Didn't like the movie, don't like David Arnold. Sorry, fans. NP: THE FINAL CONFLICT
posted 03-22-2000 11:04 PM PT (US)

MattStar Oscar® Winner	I would have to say Dragonheart and Aliens. One of Edelman's best and the quintessential action score from Horner. Hey, what is this about an expanded Aliens? Does anyone have this expanded version for sale or could make a CDR for me?
posted 03-22-2000 11:47 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	I myself neither own the expanded version, nor can refer you to an individual who has it -- but lots of STORES carry the expanded (bootleg) of ALIENS (including Footlights, among many other places -- other posters here will have better suggestions, price-wise, I'm sure.) NP: CHAIN REACTION (I don't care what anybody says, I like this one)
posted 03-23-2000 12:15 AM PT (US)

Thor Oscar® Winner	I have to disagree with Rocco on THE EDGE. It´s more than just fun. It´s arguably Goldsmith´s best score in the 90´s - a return to the harsh atonality of the 70´s coupled with 90´s romantic sensibilities. "The Ravine" is absolutely stunning, as is the music for the bear. An enjoyable jazz version of the theme at the end. Be aware, though, "Rescued" has a sound glitch!
posted 03-23-2000 03:40 AM PT (US)

JJH Oscar® Winner	not to mention it has a grand main theme that rivals First Contact! what sound glitch? NP -- Much Ado About Nothing, Doyle
posted 03-23-2000 04:54 AM PT (US)

Howard L Oscar® Winner	"I'll be in town Friday for my film final, so I'm gonna stop by Tower Records for some score-hunting." Would that be the Tower near Lincoln Center or the one near the Village? (strictly for nostalgia puposes)
posted 03-23-2000 05:39 AM PT (US)

SPOR2 Oscar® Winner	The Edge because only Goldsmith can scare you as much as a 900 pound bear on a rampage. Dig those trombones! And Insurrection because...well, dammit...the more you listen to this great sounding recording...the more you'll grow to like it. Just turn the volume up!
posted 03-23-2000 06:23 AM PT (US)

Al Oscar® Winner	The Edge is a must have! If you're a pretty big Goldsmith fan, you should pick up ST: Insurrection also. The main theme is one of Goldsmith's beautiful lullaby themes. That alone makes the CD worth getting. There is also some suspense music that revisits the 70s, but it is not as jagged and harsh as the wild (and unsynthesized) suspense music from The Edge.
posted 03-23-2000 06:29 AM PT (US)

DjC Oscar® Winner	Get Aliens, and The Edge, Both great scores, the rest of the cds on the list suck, except Dragonheart, Dragonheart does have that classic song, but the rest of it is too "Disney-esque", so go with ALiens and te Edge!... NP: The Thin Red Line, which is nothing compared to the Magnolia score, but it still gets **/***
posted 03-23-2000 06:41 AM PT (US)

Thor Oscar® Winner	JJH: The track "Rescued" has a hissing/crackling noise that annoyingly lasts for the entire track (I was convinced one of my speaker plug-ins were loose the first time I heard it, but later got it verified by others). I remember reading the explanation of it somewhere, by the engineer, but I've forgotten it. Goes to show that even the most professional recording might have flaws.
posted 03-23-2000 07:08 AM PT (US)

James Oscar® Winner	THE EDGE definitely. Beyond that, I'm not sure. INSURRECTION has some mediocrities to it... I like the soft, romantic parts a lot better than the action cues (as did Goldsmith). James CITED: Jerry Goldsmith's interview at the Star Trek: Insurrection official web page... not sure if it's still there.
posted 03-23-2000 01:14 PM PT (US)

jonathan_little Oscar® Winner	Hmm... I've really concentrated on the "Rescued" track of The Edge, but I still can't hear any hiss or crackles in any of the music... NP - The Edge, "Rescued"
posted 03-23-2000 05:55 PM PT (US)

Bryan T Oscar® Winner	I'm going to have to stand up for ST: Insurrection, too. The opening theme is, in my opinion, one of Goldsmith's most beautiful melodies in recent years. The action music may not be spectacular, but it does remind you that Goldsmith is one of the most versatile composers working today...Dragonheart is pretty good...Apart from his main titles, I've never thought John Carpenter's scores stand alone very well, but if I remember correctly, Escape from New York is one of his better ones...Aliens is a good Horner action score, but a lot of it sounds like Star Trek II & III...Hope this helps some.
posted 03-24-2000 09:06 AM PT (US)

dantoris Oscar® Winner	Well, thanks for all the suggestions. I was really looking forward to picking up The Edge and Aliens, but they had neither. In fact, of the ones I mentioned way up above, all they had was Tomorrow Never Dies expanded. So I grabbed that and Scream 3. TND expanded - better than the first CD (thank God Sheryl Crow's screechy song ain't on it), but where's the music from the escape scene where Bond slides down the side of the building? Or the fight above the newspaper presses and his following escape? And that was the most boring composer interview I've ever heard. 11 minutes that could've went towards the two missing tracks I just mentioned. Scream 3 - Just put it on. Too early to tell. 20 tracks and STILL a 30 minute running time. And is Varese changing the style of their CD's side labels? Not great, but better than the plain ones on their others. NP: Scream 3 - "Home Sweet Home" (too early to tell/*****)
posted 03-25-2000 12:57 AM PT (US)

Jennie Oscar® Winner	Hmmm....I just listened to Rescued from The Edge to listen for the glitch... You're right!! There's a lot of that hissing/crackling sound...hehe, i'm annoyed now! grrr...ah well...it's all good... Actually...no, its not good, its getting on my nerves now...but i guess i just have to deal with it like all you guys NP- The Edge (with the glitches)
posted 03-25-2000 05:13 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	I have to comment on two of those scores: Dragonheart: It uses synthesizers as a replacement for real orchestral instruments at several points in the score. Normally, that would make me hate it. But it's just such a beatiful, fantastic work that I absolutely love it. I actually got it only because I'd read so many good comments about it at the FSM board, having never heard it myself. It was one of those blow-me-away scores, I was really stunned when I listened to it for the first time. Note: Another case of a score that's so good that I don't mind the "miss-use" of synthesizers is Goldsmith's wonderful Lionheart (does it have something to do with score titles in the end?? ) Insurrection: Actually, I listened to it this very evening. As a whole, it's really rather boring, with plenty of repetitive action material. But the main title is really beautiful, and it also has Goldsmith's best rendition of the Courage fanfare at the beginning. And it's worth getting for a single short track called Children's Story, though probably not everybody finds that track as fantastic as I do.
posted 03-26-2000 11:53 AM PT (US)

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