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Timmer Standard Userer	watching a film this afternoon called the Doomsday Flight (cheesey 70's thingy scored by Lalo Schifrin), Opening shot is of a planes under carriage, which I know is a B-52 bomber, Ah,But Lo and behold, When the plane is taxiing it's a 707 passenger plane. You see these stock footage shots in loads of films, Usually using the same footage that NEVER belongs to the Aircraft in question! Anyone else care to enlighten us with other Film Trivia and utterly useless facts??... NP : Prokoviev - Leutenant Kije I'm on a real Classical buzz at the moment.
posted 03-16-2000 07:50 AM PT (US)

J. Peter Wolk-Laniewski Standard Userer	The same thing happened in Usual Suspects. There's a shot of a four engine jet approaching a runway, but when it lands it only has two. On the commentary track of the DVD, director Bryan Singer takes care to make fun of this fact.
posted 03-16-2000 12:20 PM PT (US)

Marc Flake Standard Userer	MIDWAY Charlton Heston's last flight. He takes off in a Hellcat, he flys to the target in a Dauntless, he attacks the target in a Helldiver, he crashes on the aircraft carrier in a Panther. For those who don't know that's a late-war fighter, an early-war dive bomber, a late-war dive bomber and a Korean-War JET!!! Marc
posted 03-16-2000 01:05 PM PT (US)

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posted 03-16-2000 05:55 PM PT (US)

Timmer Standard Userer	Anyone notice in the old Star Trek when faces you never saw before get beamed down they's the ones who get Whacked! Coarse you have,.....silly Me! NP : The Swan of Tuonela - Sibelius
posted 03-16-2000 06:26 PM PT (US)

James Standard Userer	Star Trek... hmm... on the first episode of Voyager, during the scene when Tom is first being escorted to Voyager, the shuttle he is riding in changes its registration number multiple time. One moment it's Voyager's shuttle, the next moment it's Defiant's shuttle, the next moment it seems to belong to the Enterprise... www.nitcentral.com James
posted 03-16-2000 09:27 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Standard Userer	On the old TALES OF THE GOLD MONKEY series, there was a gorgeous moment when two of the characters have found a dead body complete with knife sticking out; as they turn to run, one of the guys accidentally HITS the knife while turning -- then does a split-second double-take at the rubber thing waggling back and forth -- then goes back to running. They left it in!
posted 03-17-2000 12:04 PM PT (US)

Sean Bires Standard Userer	When John Murdoch falls off the roof and grabs the metal bars before falling, strings can be found hanging on his coat. Also, when he's meeting Emma/Anna in prison, his reflection can be found on a seperate plate of glass to the one he shattered. -Sean Bires seanb20000@mediaone.net & my music... NP - End of Evangelion (I finally ordered the legit. CD! No more badly compressed MP3's!) [This message has been edited by Sean Bires (edited 17 March 2000).]
posted 03-17-2000 01:29 PM PT (US)

Gae Standard Userer	I'm sure we all know the scene in Star Wars when the a stormtrooper bashes his head on the door roof as he runs into the control room on the Death Star. I was also watching Notting Hill and theres a scene (at Chatsworth House?) where Hugh Grant (just before eaves-dropping on Julia Robert's conversation with an actor) is wearing trendy shades one second and without even removing them doesn't have them on in the next shot. Gae
posted 03-17-2000 04:50 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	I always check out the goofs section at the IMDb, there are many fun things to find there. My favourite is this: In Empire Strikes Back, when C3PO's head is seen on the conveyer belt at Cloud City, you can see a reflection of the camera man in it. I actually had to pause my video and stare at the screen for more than a minute to see it, but it's true.
posted 03-17-2000 04:58 PM PT (US)

Timmer Standard Userer	Your H'ness, Have you seen Papillon recently, You can see a Frog Man quite clearly in the water when Steve McQueen makes his final escape on the coconut raft! Also, Check out ALIENS when the ripped in half 'Bishop' reaches out to save Newt when the air lock is opened, You can quite clearly see his lower body reaching out!! NP : Penderecki - St.Luke Passion 'scary stuff'!
posted 03-17-2000 06:14 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Standard Userer	Yep, Marc. I noticed all that and more in Midway. There was much reuse of Tora, Tora, Tora in there and film footage from Battle of Midway, John Ford's film, Away All Boats and other footage of other WW II battles mixed in. That's one reason why all the planes are all mixed up and interchanged. The average movie-goer doesn't notice all that stuff. Another one I noticed like that was in Giant Claw. The F-86 Starfighter flies by and strafes the big fake bird. When the bird grabs the plane its a F-102 Dart. No one seemed to notice it was different. Best, John.
posted 03-18-2000 05:06 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Standard Userer	If Doomsday Flight is the one with Jack Lord and Edmund O'Brien, I saw this once in 1969 on TV and it was made a couple of years before that. Pretty lousy movie. Best, John.
posted 03-18-2000 05:08 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Standard Userer	Haven't seen PAPILLON in a long time, noble Timster, and certainly never saw the frogman. I DID think that Papi's old-age makeup while on the coconut raft was CLEARLY cheaper and clumsier than that which he wore in the rest of the picture -- were they afraid the more subtle makeup wouldn't "read" in the long shot?
posted 03-18-2000 06:18 PM PT (US)

dantoris Standard Userer	About the Stormtrooper's helmet think. Everybody thinks the sound effect is from him hitting his head, but it's actually the lead trooper's com-unit activating. (You know, they click just before they speak and again as soon as they're done). Raiders of the Lost Ark When the plane flies out of San Francisco, Fort Point is shown as being underneath the right-side of the bridge. This makes it look like the plane is flying into the city. Perhaps the negative got flipped? NP: Huey Lewis: Sports - "Walking On A Thin Line" **/*** (I need a break from scores right now) [This message has been edited by dantoris (edited 18 March 2000).]
posted 03-18-2000 06:22 PM PT (US)

Timmer Standard Userer	John.C.W.,Spot on.....Yeah!, Lousy movie!
posted 03-18-2000 06:44 PM PT (US)

Timmer Standard Userer	I can't remember his name?,the guy who played Apollo creed in the ROCKY films.....when his arm is blown off in PREDATOR, you can still see his real arm strapped down under the prosthetics! NP : Nothing - I've Music'ed myself out!
posted 03-18-2000 07:00 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	Another favourite of mine: When the police takes Cary Grant from the auction to the airport in North by Northwest. Whenever the car makes a turn, the policemen to the left and the right of Cary Grant lean in the right direction. However, at one scene, one of the policemen forgets to do so, and you can see Cary Grant poking him.
posted 03-19-2000 08:08 AM PT (US)

Dave Standard Userer	Dantoris, Your a News fan too!! I didn't know there were any of us left! dave np : Alexander Nevsky
posted 03-20-2000 01:21 AM PT (US)

dantoris Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Dave: Dantoris, Your a News fan too!! I didn't know there were any of us left! dave Yup! I'll take good, old-fashioned rock & roll any day of the week over the Ricky Martin/Backstreet Boys/N'Sync/Britney Spears/etc. crap. Also bumped into him (quite literally) about ten years ago, at Disneyland. We were coming out of a store in TomorrowLand, and I nearly walked right into him. (Of course, little me I had no idea who he was at the time - "He sings THE POWER OF LOVE in "Back to the Future" my dad said - but my mom sure was excited). But I got to shake his hand, then he took off walking again with the park employee he had been talking with. (I still have no idea what he was doing there). Huey Lewis and the News - those these guys know how to make music. [This message has been edited by dantoris (edited 20 March 2000).]
posted 03-20-2000 06:13 AM PT (US)

Audacity Standard Userer	sorry no film oddities here... Dantoris and Dave, I absolutely love Huey Lewis and the News, one of the greatest rock bands ever. I think their best album is "Fore!" Audacity
posted 03-20-2000 08:53 AM PT (US)

MWRuger Standard Userer	Ya gotta love 80's rock! (Okay, there is some good 90's rock, but not as much as the 80's) I have a theroy that even decades have better music. (40's, 60's, 80's) Just like even numbered Star Trek Movies are better so goes the music story. If its true, we should get some pretty decent stuff this decade!
posted 03-20-2000 09:02 AM PT (US)

dantoris Standard Userer	ATTENTION ALL HUEY FANS: Their new album (don't know the name) is supposed to be out very soon. They premiered some of their new songs at a New Year's Eve concert near San Francisco last December, and it was reported that the songs got a huge reaction. Be watching for it, guys.
posted 03-20-2000 06:27 PM PT (US)

Scorro Standard Userer	I recently rented JC's "The Thing". It's supposed to be the start of winter in the Antarctic, yet the sun is shining so high in the sky that everyone's shadow is at their feet (sun exactly overhead). Later on it's magically night outside, all in a matter of a couple of days! Hmmm, someone forgot to fill in John about seasonal sunshine patterns at the south pole.
posted 03-20-2000 06:40 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Standard Userer	The one just above got me chuckling. Being a geography teacher for years, I can relate to that one. I have been a fan of lots of old war movies and I am always picking up errors of all kinds in them. In Objective Burma I noticed that the machine gun started sounding like a BAR in some scenes. Got their weapons and sound effects mixed up. In First to Fight the Japanese in several charge scenes you could see the bayonets were rubbery and were wobbling as they ran. Showed same scenes several times to save money of the Japanese getting blown up by grenades from different angles. In Too Late the Hero at the end in the last dash, the mortar fire and long range rifle fire was incredibly accurate getting several Japanese in the eye or landing a mortar round of top of their heads just as they were about to shoot Caine and Robertson in the clearing. Some great marksmanship long range. Great stuff, John.
posted 03-20-2000 08:15 PM PT (US)

Timmer Standard Userer	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Scorro: I recently rented JC's "The Thing". It's supposed to be the start of winter in the Antarctic, yet the sun is shining so high in the sky that everyone's shadow is at their feet (sun exactly overhead). Later on it's magically night outside, all in a matter of a couple of days! Hmmm, someone forgot to fill in John about seasonal sunshine patterns at the south pole.<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE> Thought Id drag this old thread up Re: The Thing Notice when the Doc get's both his arms bit off, they come away about 3 inches or so from where the teeth plunge in Edited to add : Sorry Pete, don't know why this OT came up here? [Message edited by Timmer on 07-03-2006]
posted 07-03-2006 06:00 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Standard Userer	Timmer, I see this all the time and hear wrong things all the time in them too. 1. in Giant Claw, the really bad B horror film of the 50s, you see a F-86 Starfighter fighting the bird and the bird grabs it and its a Dart F-106, not even close to the same plane. LOL> 2. in Objective Burma, 1945 war epic, in many scenes you see them shooting a 30 cal water cooled machinegun, only problem is at times it sounds like a BAR-browning automatic rifle, LOL. 3. in First to Fight, the 1967 Chad Everett Marine film about Guadalcanal and later battles in Pacific, the Japanese soldiers are charging with rubber bayonets wobbling on their weapons. 4. in Kings of the Sun, you see them fighting with plastic swords and cardboard shields early in the film 5. in King Solomons Mines sequel, you see James EArl Jones with a plastic ax and so forth 6. in Midway, mixing planes all the time. besides using the Tora, Tora, Tora footage and showing Pearl Harbor scenes at Midway, you see them mixing the dive bombers, torpedo planes and fighters up a lot. For example a two seater torpedo plane is shot down, when it hits the water its a fighter with one seat. LOL> 7. in Giant Claw, the B-25 is hanging on strings chasing the bird, which is also on wires 8. in Giant Claw, when bird is flying, he is hanging on wires in front of a big white sheet with clouds and sky projected onto it. 9. in Comancheros, John Wayne film about Texas in 1846, wrong rifles and wrong sounds, they did not have winchesters yet, all wrong all way around. No research done on this 1961 film. Totally wrong. Many more I have noticed too. I have seen that movie you are talking about too. Its awful TV film from back then. I saw it on TV when first shown. J.
posted 07-03-2006 06:33 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Standard Userer	If that is the Doomsday Flight with Edmund O Brien and Jack Lord it was first on TV in late 60s. We saw it when it was first on TV. J. I believe we saw it in 69 when living at Southside Apts my senior year.
posted 07-03-2006 06:34 PM PT (US)

Timmer Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by John C Winfrey: If that is the Doomsday Flight with Edmund O Brien and Jack Lord it was first on TV in late 60s. We saw it when it was first on TV. J. I believe we saw it in 69 when living at Southside Apts my senior year. It is the same one John......it's also the same as 'your' post about 15 posts above, ah well, it is 6 years old I'd love to see that old bag o' cheese the Giant Claw again, it's been far too long since they showed this on terrestrial.
posted 07-04-2006 11:56 AM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Standard Userer	Yeah, I noticed that later. Its been a good while. Yes, it was way back there. That Too Late the Hero really cracks me up. I like the zig=zag business at the end but it is a silly film. They follow the wires and kill the commander and then are able to evade 500 Japanese running all around. Its really ridiculous. But the scene at the end, everytime someone gets ready to shoot them either a mortar rounds lands on his head or a bullet gets him in the eye just as he is getting aim on one of them. LOL. Thats some crack shooting from three thousand yards, huh? LOL> J.
posted 07-06-2006 09:27 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Standard Userer	There are so many of those bad old monster films. I guess I saw about as many as anyone in America way back then. It Terror from Beyond Space is a fav with Marshall Thompson of Daktari TV show. The monster throws them around like a rag doll and drains their fluids. He uses his head as a battering ram on the spaceship doors. Another one that is really bad but so laughable is the Snow Creature with Bill Phipps and Paul Langdon. They used lots of stock footage of climbing scenes over and over in it. The monster wore that bulky suit with the zipper on it and the big gloves and they showed the same scenes over and over of him going into and out of the shadows in LA. Saved a lot of money on the film. J. I have seen so many of these over the years long ago.
posted 07-10-2006 10:51 PM PT (US)

Lou Goldberg Standard Userer	I love It! The Terror From Beyond Space. Basically it's Hawks' The Thing set on a spaceship and this (along with Bava's Planet of the Vampires) then becomes the source for Alien. The score was by Sawtell & Shefter and a number of the cues found there way into Kronos as well. As for Snow Creature, since all that stock footage of mountain climbing was the real deal, that made the film watchable. But the film as a whole doesn't hold a candle to the British film The Abominable Snowman with its excellent music by Humphrey Searle.
posted 07-11-2006 12:21 AM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Standard Userer	Lou, another one that used a lot of the same sort of stock footage in the mountains was The Mole People. Very similiar footage. Might be the same. J.
posted 07-11-2006 05:09 PM PT (US)

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