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sakman
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I was listening today to the Elmer Bernstein "adaptation" of this score for the Scorsese remake.A couple of times, it sounded like cues from several other Herrmann scores. Since I do not have the original anywhere, I can't compare it. Anyone know about this MCA release?
[Incidentally, the inside "notes" for this cd always make me laugh. There is a comment about how Herrmann was known for his orchestrations and then a credit for "reorchestrations".]
posted 03-13-2000 11:10 AM PT (US) 
Marcelo Ferreyra

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I'd ordered a couple of days ago the
original 1962 score of Cape Fear in supercollector.com
A little expensive I'm afraid (35 bucks)
But I coudn't find that one cheaper
anywhere else and I wanted so much to have
the original to compare.
I let You know when I have it.
posted 03-13-2000 11:19 AM PT (US) 
sakman
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Thanks.Yes, Supercollector is a frightening place. I made the mistake of surfing it once, and now wonder if I should take another job to get all the goodies they list!
posted 03-13-2000 11:35 AM PT (US) 
Gae

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I may be wrong, but I always thought that the music for Scorsese's film was the same music used in the original, just re-recorded by Bernstein...it certainly sounds pure Herrmann anyway. I've seen the original movie a couple of times (I dont have the score) but I seem to remember the music is the same...the main theme definately. Gae
posted 03-13-2000 02:37 PM PT (US) 
Cole

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for the most part the music is the same but bernstein just made it fit with the timing of the new film and he also incorporated bits of herrmann's symphony into it
posted 03-13-2000 04:37 PM PT (US) 
PeterD

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Bernstein also incorporated a bit of Herrmann's rejected "Torn Curtain" score (and Herrmann himself used some of his "Torn Curtain" music in his "Battle of Neretva" score).
posted 03-13-2000 06:18 PM PT (US) 
SFT

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Well, the Bernstein adaption actually has very little to do with Herrmann: Bernstein just used different parts of Herrmannīs motifs etc. but the way in which he used them, was not at all the way Herrmann used them for the original. In that respect, itīs much more Bernsteins score, than it is Herrmannīs.As far as performance is concerned, the Bernstein adaption is great, but it does not at all compare to the original, which I also have on cd from Soundstage Records.
Now, Bernstein did (as a hommage, I presume) use some of Herrmannīs rejected score from Torn Curtain...also, might I mention, that Herrmann, in his original score used some motifs from Vertigo? Specificly the beginning of the cue "The Dream"...
I think itīs a shame that Bernsteinīs adaption is the only official release of this magnificent score. Thank God we have bootlegs.
SFT
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posted 03-14-2000 12:47 AM PT (US) 
Marcelo Ferreyra

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Finally I'd received the CD of Cape Fear original.(Sound Stage Records)
Agree with SFT.
The Herrmann version is far more superior
in terms of enyoying.
The performance is more dinamic,more frightening.
It has sudently changes of dinamics
that the Bernstein version don't have.
Well,the new movie is far different than the original,so I think that's the reason.
Also,if that helps for comparison,
the Hermann tempos are faster than the
Bernstein ones.
posted 03-23-2000 10:28 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
