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Andrew
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Hello, I would like to recomend the soundtrack to the movie "Gettysburg". It is by far Randy Edelman's best work. It is an emotional, draw-dropping soundtrack....
Andrewposted 03-11-2000 12:32 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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I have a couple tracks on a "How the West Was Won" compilation. It sounds like an excellant score, and I plan to pick it up next time I see it, even though I have yet to see the film. But I love the way Edelman's main title was so-beautifully used in the trailer for THE POSTMAN.
posted 03-11-2000 01:22 PM PT (US) 
James

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I've been planning to get this score for a LONG time now, but I have a question first... I've noticed that an expanded version of the soundtrack has been released. Is it worth the extra bucks to get the expanded version?James
posted 03-11-2000 02:16 PM PT (US) 
Andrew
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Hello, I dont have the expanded edition...but from what I have heard there are no really notable songs on the expanded adition that arn't on the normal edition...
Andrew
posted 03-11-2000 03:05 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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I never heard it, but when I got "Dragonheart", I was really interested in this score as well, as I read several good things about it.
I also know about the extended version, and that's the reason why I haven't picked up the single CD release yet, which is the only one I've seen in Austrian stores so far.NP: Sleepy Hollow (Elfman, good; Track: "The Windmill")
posted 03-13-2000 06:49 PM PT (US) 
John C Winfrey

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To me, this is by far his best score so far. He has done several others that are good too, but this is my favorite. I would love that second CD just for two great cues on it, but not for 35 dollars. I'll wait on it. Great score. John.
posted 03-20-2000 08:31 PM PT (US) 
Aaron Collins

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Gettysburg in my opinion is a waste of money unless you can find it for cheap! It has a nice theme, but, in my opinion it is just very bad in the orchestration department. There is a few good tracks, but, there are only a few! A lot of the cd sounds like synthesized instruments and in my opinion it is recorded badly. I know this score very well, because I happened to arrange it for a marching band. The guitar in that movie really gets to me. Usually a classic guitar really sounds nice, but I do not believe it sounds good in this movie. This is just my opinion! Gettysburg Expanded Edition is not worth the hassle either. I believe there are some spoken parts on it, but I may be wrong!Aaron Collins
NP: Hook(This score is amazing, so much complexity and beauty)
posted 03-21-2000 01:17 PM PT (US) 
Scott

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YES!!!!!!
Aaron, I totally agree with you.At first I shunned this one because I just couldn't see myself acutally posting my response here, but I don't like the score very much. It is ...well not very good. I just don't see why people like this score so much. I bought because everyone says it is so good and was very dissapointed. Dragonheart, Dragon heck Kindergarten Cop are much better.
Well, that's all I gotta say, glad I have one guy in my corner. It was getting kind of lonely here.
Scott
posted 03-21-2000 03:14 PM PT (US) 
John C Winfrey

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The original issue in 1993 was all music. The second- More from Gettysburg was mostly Civil War source tunes with one cue by Edelman with Jeff Daniels reciting the Gettysburg Address. The 2 CD set with book and maps has the same original CD with a 40 min second CD of music from score. Much of it is same basic cues as on the original except for one or two really good ones like the final charge cue when Armistead gets shot. Great cue in the film. Best, John.
posted 03-21-2000 04:06 PM PT (US) 
Cole

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you know...
I also thought gettysberg was not good. it just sounds bad. not a bad theme. just all that awfull synth and poor orchestration.
posted 03-21-2000 09:32 PM PT (US) 
Aaron Collins

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Wow, Scott, Cole, and I must be sharing the same brain! We have been in cue with each other for many of the topics I have read!The orchestration is terrible in most Edelman scores. I even think Dragonheart has bad orchestrations. A great theme can be ruined by orchestration or it could be boosted up with great orchestration. My personal favorite orchestrations are by Williams. He knows exactly what instrument should get what!
Gettysburg has some good themes, but very sparse in the score!
Aaron Collins
NP: Hook
posted 03-22-2000 10:08 AM PT (US) 
Audacity

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Here we go again. Somebody always has to bash Edelman's Orchestrations.Audacity
posted 03-22-2000 12:38 PM PT (US) 
Aaron Collins

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I am not bashing his orchestration. Now I can just see it, someone will try to prove me wrong by quoting me!Randy Edelman is a talented composer and he has a niche for some great themes, but I believe his soundtracks can be 100 times better if they were better orchestrated. That is my opinion! I can not change that Aaron(Audacity).
Later,
AaronNP: Gae's Mummy Suite
posted 03-22-2000 01:11 PM PT (US) 
Audacity

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Aaron,Well I still have not had someone explain to me fully what an orchestrator does, but all Edelman's scores sound fine to me.
I just get mad cause its the same old thing, someone always says bad stuff about Edelman's orchestrations. I guess its the same reason why Horner fans get mad when I say he re-uses stuff

Audacity
NP Vegas (Crystal Method)***** - Not a score but it kicks ass!posted 03-22-2000 02:20 PM PT (US) 
Scott

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Well, heck Audacity,
I'll be the one then.Edelmann's orchestrations probably get a bad rap because they suck!
Scotty
posted 03-22-2000 02:28 PM PT (US) 
James

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Gosh darnit, just when you're about to put a score at the top of your to-get list, three people come in and you begin questioning yourself.Okay, should I get this or not... I'm not normally a fan of Edelman... I wasn't even that impressed with Dragonheart. I think his best score ever was the never-released Ghostbusters 2... I have the finale from Gettysburg on a Kunzel compilation and I think it is a phenomonally outstanding track. How does the rest of the score compare to that cue?
Someone please topple me to one side here...
James
NP - Gettysburg finale (*****)posted 03-22-2000 06:55 PM PT (US) 
robin4

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James, it is good. Don't listen to those other guys, the rest is just as good as the finale (well, not all as good, but most are as good).
posted 03-22-2000 07:20 PM PT (US) 
Aaron Collins

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James,Well, I decided to pull out this score and give you a brief analysis of it!
The opening theme is a ebbullient, rousing opening(All Major). Then we have a brief transition to a guitar solo. To me, the whole orchestration sounds cheesy! It has that broadway sound to it. Then we have a very nice horn duet that is fantastic! The opening track is overall fantastic.
The second track is the opening theme reworked with minor chords under it. We then have a nice clarinet solo with underlying strings. The rest is the same as the beginning of this track.
The third cue opens with a Disney-Like theme. Very Homeward-Boundish. Following is a grandiose version of the theme. The next 2 mins of this track is all power! But, like I said it is very Disneyish! It then jumps into a more militaristic tone. This is one of the spots that sounds synthesized(for example the percussion and the brass 16th's).
The next track begins with a guitar arpeggio. The next part is one of the most annoying themes I have heard! The theme is played by an annoying synthesized flute. The cue is mostly all synthesized. One of the let downs on the cd. This is supposed to be a catchy theme, but it is rather irritable. It ends with another example of bad orchestration!
The next cue is just another sadder sounding version of the theme. This is very stringy, but in a bad way!
The next cue starts with it sounds like synthesized brass. Following that is a spanish sounding nuance in the guitar. The next part that follows is one of the more exciting things on this cd! We are introduced to a a militaristic motif in the horns in the trombones. For some reason a lot of this cd sounds really synthesized. Or better yet it sounds like the Oscar's pit orchestra! We are then back to the guitar solo. Very cheesy in my opinion! Great elevator music!
The next track is a good display of Edelmans orchestration. We have a bunch of opening chords with absolutely nothing accompanying them! Put at least something there, maybe a rhythmic passage in the flutes.
WELL I WOULD FINISH THIS, BUT THIS MUSIC IS HARD TO LISTEN TO ALL THE WAY THROUGH!
Edelman has a distinct sound and I do not like it! His orchestrations are really bad!!! Aaron, when I say orchestration I mean:
When a composer composes he writes out the basic themes on manuscript paper. He puts in a melody, a countermelody, a rhythmic line, and some harmony. The orchestrators job is to add some more passages and nuances in the music and write it out in full score. I prefer when composers orchestrate themselves.
Edelman has no complex things going on! It is just your basic chords and themes! If you like his style, then get the darn soundtrack! It does absolutely nothing for me except take up space!
If you can find it buy it for 14.99 but that is your own decision!
Hope I helped,
Aaron CollinsNP: Gettysburg
[This message has been edited by Aaron Collins (edited 23 March 2000).]
posted 03-22-2000 07:36 PM PT (US) 
Scott

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Why is it that the man insist on using these synthesised sounds. It worked great in Kindergarden Cop, but he uses it everywhere.He can write great themes, but here. Well, I don't like his style much but I buy his cd's because he has talent in melody. But again, Gettysburg does nothing for me either.
Scottposted 03-23-2000 02:56 PM PT (US) 
John C Winfrey

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Gettysburg is a very good score. Best, John.
posted 03-23-2000 04:08 PM PT (US) 
Valere

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Here again,it all boils to what you like.I can agree with the pros and cons about this score,but I still like it. For me, the scene that brings a lump to my throat is when Chamberlin(Jeff Daniels) orders "Bayonets" at the charge of Little Round Top. Overall, we never would have had a REAL Civil War movie if it wasn't for this one.I feel that they broke some new ground with this one. By this way,I am in agreement with you,John,Best Always.
NP:EXCALIBUR Great Score!
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