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James

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What Revell scores can you recommend to me? After hearing he was doing Titan A.E., I'm a little unsure. All I'm sure I've heard is The Negotiator and The Siege, and I was not too impressed with either, but I want to know more of his work. I've read some good things about The Crow and Power Rangers... what should I look into??Thanks a bunch.
James
posted 03-10-2000 04:45 PM PT (US) 
robin4

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I really like The Saint.
posted 03-10-2000 08:02 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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Yes. The Saint had it moments on the CD, but it works best with the film. (My favorite track is "Race For the Embassy"). I still give it an occasional spin. Haven't seen Power Rangers: The Movie since it first came out on video, but I seem to remember the music (score, NOT songs) being pretty enjoyable. Not too sure, though.NP: Ronin - "Passion" ***/*****
[This message has been edited by dantoris (edited 11 March 2000).]
posted 03-11-2000 12:44 AM PT (US) 
dantoris

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Also, No Escape was pretty good, from what I recall. Heven't seen it in awhile, though.
posted 03-11-2000 12:45 AM PT (US) 
Cole

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the saint the saint the saint
its just amazing
posted 03-11-2000 12:48 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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THE CROW is probably Revell's best score. The heavy-metal soundtrack album is excellent of its type as well, and includes the song Revell co-wrote (and his score is based on the same theme, as I recall), "It Won't Rain All The Time."Revell's Hollywood career began because of a little Australian thriller called DEAD CALM -- decent, though overrated at the time. Starring Sam Neill, supported by then-unknown Nicole Kidman and Billy Zane. Directed by Philip Noyce (who later hired Revell again for the aforementioned THE SAINT).
Revell's DEAD CALM score won him at least one award -- a deft and crafty thriller score that earned him the attention of Hollywood agent Richard Kraft (who also represents Goldsmith, Elfman, Christopher Young and a pile of other notables). Kraft brought Revell to Hollywood, and the rest is history.
I always thought Revell's CHILD'S PLAY 2 was an interesting score, but he did that at a time when he was still unknown -- now he's STILL doing garbage like BATS. Does he need the money that badly, or is he struggling for decent assignments? Perhaps after THE SAINT flopped and THE 13TH WARRIOR was rejected, times are tougher than they need to be.
For all the inventiveness Revell showed at the beginning, I really think he's degenerated into kind of a hack -- how desperate do you have to be to rip off one of the ultimate ripoff artists in the business, James Horner (PATRIOT GAMES is referenced in HARD TARGET, ALIENS -- grotesquely obviously -- in FROM DUSK TILL DAWN -- and so on).
posted 03-11-2000 01:16 AM PT (US) 
dantoris

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He did the score for DEAD CALM?Well - you learn something new everyday.
NP: Star Trek: First Contact - "The Dish" ****/*****
posted 03-11-2000 01:54 AM PT (US) 
sabbey

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Well my favorite so far is The Saint as well, I just love those orchestral and techno cues, which mix together quite well if you ask me.
BTW, I am really looking forward to Titan A.E. would anyone know when is it getting released? Has anyone heard the score to The Craft? I just ordered it, but would like to hear what you all think of it.
Thanks very much.
Regards,
Sean Robert Abbeyposted 03-11-2000 03:18 AM PT (US) 
Cole

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Sabbey
the orchestral and techno cues huh? That is the stuff I absolutely go crazy for - and am always on the lookout for. Know of any cool suggestions? Want any?
posted 03-11-2000 05:01 AM PT (US) 
SFT

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My favorite Revell score is "The Hand That Rocks The Cradle"....very atmospheric.SFT
NP: Obession, Bernard Herrmann
posted 03-11-2000 06:57 AM PT (US) 
Hard Target
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Well I'm not the biggest fan of Revell's in the world but I'm very happy with the scores I have of his. I still feel that some his better scores remain unreleased like Fled, Dead Calm, The Big Hit and Suicide Kings to name a few. The latter two I was lucky to get surprisingly. Here are my recommendations:The Saint
Hand That Rocks The Cradle
The Negotiator
Hard Target
Suicide Kings
The Big Hit
Bride of Chucky
No Escape
The Crow
The Crow City of AngelsIronically his score to the Craft is a replacement score to one written surprisingly by Thomas Newman. And I don't think it was any better than what Newman wrote.
P.O.
Forces of Nature-complete (John Powell) ***/****posted 03-11-2000 12:39 PM PT (US) 
sabbey

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quote:
Originally posted by Cole:
Sabbey
the orchestral and techno cues huh? That is the stuff I absolutely go crazy for - and am always on the lookout for. Know of any cool suggestions? Want any?What type of suggestions? other Graeme Revell scores, or that type of music in general?
Thanks.
Regards,
Sean Robert Abbeyposted 03-11-2000 04:40 PM PT (US) 
PeterK

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H Rocco, I will address most of your points, because you bring up some interesting ones.
While interviewing Revell for a piece in BMI's MusicWorld magazine, I asked him about a lot of things, including where his career really began, and why he accepts any scoring job, from "garbage" films like Child's Play 2 and Psycho 4 to the big budgets, a la The Siege and The Saint.Article excerpt, copyright BMI:
-------------------------------Graeme's economics degree at the University of Auckland led to employment in Indonesia and Australia as a Third World Development Economist, where he continued to sharpen his emotional response to ethnic music. In the late 70s, Graeme formed the innovative band SPK with Sinan, a friend and patient he met while training to be a nurse at a Sydney-based psychiatric hospital. SPK's 1982 album 'Leichenschrei' became one of the most influential albums in the industrial music genre, employing Gregorian chant, metal percussion and innovative sound sampling and structuring.
Several years after scoring DEAD CALM, Graeme moved to Hollywood. Turning down no offers in Tinseltown, he wrote music for films ranging from PSYCHO 4 to TRACES OF RED to UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD. Graeme's attitude on the art of film scoring perfectly sums up his early success. "I find inspiration even on a small-budget films," he says. "I don't enjoy the arrogance of saying 'I'm not going to do this because it's not good enough.' I think scoring is a matter of being able to find ways through scenes in different ways. If it doesn't work, you try something else."
-------------------------------
This should shed some light on things.As for Revell "degenerating into kind of a hack"? I think this kind of statement is unfortunately made, simply because one may not be aware of the extenuating circumstances facing Revell and others like him. The bigger a project Revell signs onto, the less creative freedom he has. Call them producers and directors passionately involved in temp track affairs!
Hey, when the time comes, I look forward to putting up all my interviews with the composers here on MovieMusic.com. These guys have interesting things to say when asked the right questions.
PeterK
NP - "U-Turn" by Morricone (excellent underrated score)
posted 03-11-2000 07:54 PM PT (US) 
robin4

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Pitch Black is really good, too, but it looks like it might not be released. At least not for now, unfortunately.
posted 03-12-2000 09:03 AM PT (US) 
Al

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Yes, it does not look good for Revell's PITCH BLACK. Varese said that they have no plans to release it. Who else would do it?
posted 03-12-2000 08:24 PM PT (US) 
Audacity

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I really love Revell's scores to No Escape and The Saint. The Siege and The Crow are worth buying also.Audacity
NP Hudson Hawk (Michael Kamen)***posted 03-13-2000 10:52 AM PT (US) 
sabbey

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I am thinking of getting The Siege and The Negotiator, and maybe No Escape as well. So I wanted to ask, what do you all think of those?Thanks very much.
Regards,
Sean Robert Abbeyposted 03-13-2000 07:39 PM PT (US) 
James

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Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone! I'll be checking those out really soon.James
posted 03-14-2000 07:51 PM PT (US) 
Chris

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As far as I know did Revell the Score to "The 13th Warrior" until he was replaced by Jerry Goldsmith. Does anybody know if this is true? And if yes, does anybody know, if i could get this score somewhere?
By the way: My favourite Revell Score is also "The Saint".
posted 03-15-2000 10:32 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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People keep mentioning the bootleg of Revell's 13TH WARRIOR. Never seen one, only gather that it exists. How long would it be, Those Of You Who Own It?
posted 03-15-2000 11:17 AM PT (US) 
mlw
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I thought The Corruptor was intelligently spotted and thoughtfully mapped. Oops that was Carter Burwell! Ok. Ronin kicked ass with that ambient eurotech edge over complex orchestrations--- oh yeah that was Elia Cmiral. I guess I don't recommend any Revell scores. Poor guy is buried under all the duduks and drones. They sometimes claim this worldbeat style is the "cutting edge" but it's so predictable in the wrong hands it's just another cliche.
posted 03-15-2000 12:15 PM PT (US) 
sabbey

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quote:
Originally posted by H Rocco:
People keep mentioning the bootleg of Revell's 13TH WARRIOR. Never seen one, only gather that it exists. How long would it be, Those Of You Who Own It?Well it does exists! I should know since I have an copy of it.

It is an good score, though the Goldsmith version is much better IMO. If you want an copy check out the following link, they have it available. BTW, it runs about 68 minutes.
http://majestyx.8m.com/scores/
Anyway, hopefully that helps.
NP: Mission to Mars **** - It's not as bad as most seem to think it is. I wonder if it is how it was used in the film that people are mentioning, or compared to the other works from Ennio Morricone? Well it, Wolf and an compilation of his western scores are the only ones of his I have heard. Maybe that's why I like it.

Regards,
Sean Robert Abbey[This message has been edited by sabbey (edited 16 March 2000).]
posted 03-16-2000 12:07 PM PT (US) 
Lancelot

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I am not impressed with the Majestyk score archive--all they appear to do is *list* scores that are supposedly available. They have no price, no order form.I am trying to find Revell's "Eaters of the Dead" as well--is there someone who'll value a trade or a simple check, even, for a decent version of it?
posted 03-16-2000 12:38 PM PT (US) 
sabbey

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quote:
Originally posted by Lancelot:
I am not impressed with the Majestyk score archive--all they appear to do is *list* scores that are supposedly available. They have no price, no order form.I am trying to find Revell's "Eaters of the Dead" as well--is there someone who'll value a trade or a simple check, even, for a decent version of it?
Why not just email the guy and ask him how much, and what type of payment he excepts? IIRC, he asks for $15.
Either way, It's not that bad, especially if you're getting these incredible scores he offers.

Regards,
Sean Robert Abbeyposted 03-16-2000 12:56 PM PT (US) 
robin4

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All you have to do is e-mail him and he'll tell you the cost. I am in the middle of a transaction with him. I can't wait to get what he's sending me!!!!
posted 03-16-2000 03:42 PM PT (US) 
Dan Brecher

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He contributes nciely to a number of cues in The Insider which is IMHO totally brilliant music and well worth getting! I have it playing now in fact!Dan (UK)
NP: The Insider (*****/*****)
posted 03-17-2000 05:22 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
