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    Topic:   If YOU were a director...

     SBD
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    We've heard it all before: if you were a director, who would you hire to write the music?

    This topic, instead, is about HOW you would hire a composer.

    Would you...

    a) Hire a different composer for each film
    (Richard Donner; the Lethal Weapon sequels don't count)

    b) Hire a different composer for each film, but go back to a particular one every once in a while(Ron Howard, Brian De Palma)

    c) Change your composer every couple of films
    (Wes Craven)

    d) Flip-flop between composers depending on the film(Paul Verhoeven)

    e) Hire the same person for every film, save the occasional scrape(Tim Burton, Steven Spielberg, Robert Zemeckis, etc.)

    f) Score the film yourself(John Carpenter)?

    Any thoughts?

    Now, I like to take the time to bring to your attention the following:

    TV Scores(General Topics)
    David Newman(Movie Composers)

    For only moments a day, you can support public broadcasting... I mean these threads.

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    posted 02-08-2000 08:19 AM PT (US)     

     Steve Hughes
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    As I'm actively working towards a career in directing movies, I'm planning to:

    d) Flip-flop between composers depending on the film

    It'd be great to build a relationship with one, maybe two composers. My main choice would still be Michael Kamen. He will prove himself with X-Men otherwise I'll be looking for another favourite composer. Goooooo Kamen!


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    posted 02-08-2000 09:19 AM PT (US)     

     JoeInSanDiego
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    I'd like to say I'd stick with the same composer and chances are good I would do that...barring scheduling difficulties or life in general happening...so...who wants to be on the team?

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    posted 02-08-2000 09:32 AM PT (US)     

     Dan Brecher
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    Well I am directing a short film on 16mm right now in fact (this saturday, ack!) and have a feature project for next year.

    My anwser is simple; I choose which ever composer is right for the job.

    Dan (UK)

    [This message has been edited by Dan Brecher (edited 08 February 2000).]

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    posted 02-08-2000 09:36 AM PT (US)     

     Mark Hatfield
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    Hi!
    I am going to aiming at Directing some day, as well. I think ideally my answer would be

    (e) Hire the same composer for every film, save for the occassional scrape.

    It just seems easier and more productive this way. Directors often work with the same crew (DP, Casting, FX shop, production assistants, etc.) film after film because they've found that knowledge of the ability and working style of that crew makes for a better "shoot". It is certainly arguable that movies can benefit from a fresh or distanced take on things from a score standpoint; I've just always thought that in terms of filming/editing it would be advantageous to have some general idea of what the score will sound like. I think that the director/composer "team" provides that, along with (probably) much better temp tracking.
    Oh, to dream of a day when I can ask for promos of the film's score to be a guarantee in my contract.......

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    posted 02-08-2000 09:41 AM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    I'd work with as many people as possible. Variety is the spice of life.

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    posted 02-08-2000 12:08 PM PT (US)     

     Aaron Hose
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    I would use a young, unheard-of composer, and together we'll develop a great working relationship...a-la Paul Thomas Anderson/Jon Brion. That is, of course, unless someone like a Williams or a Barry personally requests to score my film. The 16mm feature I'm currently co-producing and D.P.-ing is being scored by one of the co-directors.

    - A.

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    posted 02-08-2000 12:56 PM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    I'd try different composers for the first few films, and they'll work for pittance.

    And when I become rich and famous I'll score my own films, and put out the score CDs as limited editions because I'll be arrogant enough to believe people will have seen my films and will listen to the exuberant scores.
    No graciousness and civility from me!

    Joe, you need a wide receiver?


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    posted 02-08-2000 01:27 PM PT (US)     

     dantoris
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    I'd probably use different composers, but the same ones for specific types of movies. Of course, if one become unavailable, I'd go with someone else I have worked with and am familiar with.

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    posted 02-08-2000 01:34 PM PT (US)     

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    JJH...I'll pretend I didn't read that request...

    I am such a PIG...

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    posted 02-08-2000 02:03 PM PT (US)     

     Scott
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    I'd use the same composer. If I couldn't get him, I would compose it myself.

    Look at me, talking like I actually know something.


    Scott

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    posted 02-08-2000 02:05 PM PT (US)     

     James
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    I've actually thought about this question a lot more than I probably should.

    When I start out with my little projects I will probably either (f) compose them myself or (g) temp in classical music.

    Once I have the budget and the influence to actually hire a composer of note, I have often thought of John Debney and Don Davis, but they both have always subsided and the composer I've gone for in my mind has always been... Richard Band.

    It's perfect. When my career is just starting to get to its knees, I'll do a B-movie for Full Moon Films, and that's when I'll meet him. Eventually I'll do a big-budget feature and we'll both get Oscars. I'll use Band for every one of the great 20+ ideas I have in my head or on paper.

    Aren't dreams grand?

    James
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    posted 02-08-2000 02:06 PM PT (US)     

     J. Peter Wolk-Laniewski
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    I would hire Aaron Collins because as a young composer and moviemusic buddy, I could get him dirt cheap. And I already know he can write good music.

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    posted 02-08-2000 02:42 PM PT (US)     

     HAL 2000
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    I'd work with a variety of composers in search of a great counterpart and collaborator and once I found him/her I'd try to work with that one exclusively. I wouldn't want to have to readjust to a different musical sensibility everytime I made another film.

    I think the reason great collaborations such as Herrmann/Hitchcock, Morricone/Leone, Goldsmith/Schaffner and Williams/Spielberg are so fruitful is because of years of interaction and mutual understanding. There's a built-in synergy that takes place in these relationships and that's what I would want as a director.

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    posted 02-08-2000 03:22 PM PT (US)     

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    I would get whoever was right for the job.

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    posted 02-08-2000 03:27 PM PT (US)     

     Matt
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    Since I will direct, this is actually a great topic
    It depends on the film for one thing. certain composers are best for certain types of films. also it would be someone i work well with. Of course, the composer must also be good, hehe
    I cannot truly answer this question, because it may be that i would work with different composers, or i could find one who i work great with who is quite versatile in score genres, or i might jump around a bit. i wouldnt make any decisions until after the film is done tho, or at least mostly finished and i know how it is gonna end up.

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    posted 02-08-2000 04:49 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    I will probably have to do the first picture myself to keep costs down. Also, I'd just like to try my hand at it. Then when I have more money to spare, I'd like to try composing orchestral music on one of those computer programs that ought to make it easier (even John Scott uses one of those now). But only to score one more picture, just to see if I can do it. I've already got the basic tunes in my head, so it's just a question of deploying them. (I studied piano for years, but I think all the technical aspects of writing music have long since fled me.)

    Otherwise, ideally, one should pick a composer you like and can get along with -- the more versatile the better -- and continue as often as possible. On the other hand, the chance to work with a Goldsmith or Williams would be well-nigh irresistible ...

    Of the younger composers, I can't see anyone to compare with Christopher Young, so I'd go after him. I certainly would have him do the orchestral score I was talking about doing myself, if I find I can't hack it.

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    posted 02-08-2000 07:12 PM PT (US)     

     Kris
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    I'd go for something like d). If I were a director I'd try to stick with John Debney and John Ottman.

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    posted 02-09-2000 02:48 AM PT (US)     

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    Well I am not trying to brag like others, but ye si am trying to enter the directing world, and if i could have one single director each time, then that would be grand. If i could choose any director, I would choose Elliot ZGoldenthal, mainly because he makes his music blend with the film...adios

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    posted 02-09-2000 07:08 AM PT (US)     

     Kris
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    Well, there seem to be several people on this thread talking about their next movie(s). Could you be more specific? I don't want to hear about the plot, 'cause it might be dangerous to reveal that on the net.

    No, I mean something like which format, budget, length etc. Have any of you done anything, well, how should I say, more than just hobby filming? Or are you just a bunch of amateur directors like me hoping to make the big break one day?

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    posted 02-09-2000 07:47 AM PT (US)     

     HAL 2000
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    Since when has Elliot Goldenthal been directing?

    [This message has been edited by HAL 2000 (edited 09 February 2000).]

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    posted 02-09-2000 08:17 AM PT (US)     

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    I have all these themes in my head, but my strongly limited musical faculties do not allow me to broaden them.

    I'd love to score my own film, but that requires a certain basic music knowledge. Maybe I would have used my own theme in the movie, and get a composer to write a score around that theme (pretty ungrateful job, huh?) - like DANTE'S PEAK or PURE LUCK.

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    posted 02-09-2000 08:27 AM PT (US)     

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    As an aspiring filmmaker, I'd say I'd probably do something similar to John Carpenter. Score my own films most of the time unless I feel someone else could do it. To be truthful, it's easier to write music to accompany other people's idea than it is to come up with the idea, film it, and then come up with the music as well and on top of that, put all your heart and soul into every ounce of work.

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    posted 02-09-2000 08:15 PM PT (US)     
     

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