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Topic: Reuse and tracking of various Steiner scores
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John C Winfrey
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As we have discussed on this board and on the other one, Steiner's music for Adventures of Don Juan was reused in Goonies and Treasure of Sierra Madre was in City Slickers 2. Here are some more:Yellowstone Kelly-some Steiner music from They Died With Their Boots On and Searchers reused Rise and Fall of Legs Diamond-reuse of some FBI Story music Merrills Marauders-Operation Pacific, John Wayne sub film tracked in Rebecca-a short clip from Star is Born reuse by Steiner himself: Little Lord Fauntleroy shows up in several later scores The West Point piece in Santa Fe Trail reused in They Died With Their Boots On Submarine X-M reused in Dive Bomber and others I also noticed this one the other night in the prologue of Hellcats of the Navy-Caine Mutiny. Best, John. Others?
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posted 02-07-2000 04:21 PM PT (US) ip
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PeterD
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A couple of other examples of Steiner reusing his own music:The openings of the main title music for "The Lost Patrol" (a great, early John Ford movie, with a memorable Boris Karloff in a supporting role) and "Casablanca" are almost identical. "Distant Drums" (I highly recommend the Screen Archives CD to any Steiner fans) reuses some motifs from "King Kong."
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posted 02-07-2000 05:39 PM PT (US) ip
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John C Winfrey
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Another bad habit on Steiner was to use and reuse those patriotic source pieces and cavalry cues in a million different scores. He wore those out.I saw a few mins of Distant Drums on AMC a while back. A really lousy film. Only good thing about it was the good scenery in the Everglades. The overdressed and highly decorative Seminoles really cracked me up and all of the weapons in the battles sounded like all the sound effects that WBs used in 100s of films. The sounds did not fit the weapons. The early weapons sounded like rapid fire repeaters and later model pistols and revolvers. No accurate research on this one. F-/. Take care, John.
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posted 02-08-2000 04:43 PM PT (US) ip
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John C Winfrey
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Add substantial reuse in Searchers from They Died With Their Boots On. JW.
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posted 02-08-2000 04:46 PM PT (US) ip
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PeterD
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Yes, "Distant Drums" was certainly a mediocre film. And interestingly, according to the booklet accompanying the Screen Archives CD, the movie was originally scored by Alex North, but after apparently disappointing previews, "Steiner was called in to save the picture with some of his tried-and-true musical pyrotechnics." I don't think anything could have saved this one, but I do enjoy the music, which includes a nice heroic theme for Gary Cooper that Steiner makes good use of throughout the score.
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posted 02-08-2000 09:59 PM PT (US) ip
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