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dantoris Oscar® Winner	. . . I think actor David Ogden Stiers from TV's MASH should play him. Not only does he have a similar resemblance to Williams, but he's a conductor as well, and has conducted 70 orchestras in over 100 appearances. If you don't recall him (or want to see how much he resembles Williams today) go to the link below and wait for the top picture to load, then let me know what you think. http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/1966/DOS.html NP: "Spacehunter" complete score **/** [This message has been edited by dantoris (edited 04 February 2000).]
posted 02-04-2000 12:10 PM PT (US)

dantoris Oscar® Winner	Hmmm. Well, I thought this would be an interesting topic that would get a lot of responses. Oh well. Guess I was wrong. NP: "U.S. Marshals" **/**
posted 02-04-2000 05:05 PM PT (US)

Cole Oscar® Winner	poor Dantoris no one responded it is a cool idea about a movie based on our favorite composer. too bad it would never sell. i mean - we have problems enough just to get certain scores released much less a movie about a film scorer NP Tomorrow Never Dies expanded)
posted 02-05-2000 02:43 AM PT (US)

Will Oscar® Winner	Perhaps Sir Richard Attenborough (is that the correct spelling?) could take on the role as Williams?
posted 02-05-2000 06:09 AM PT (US)

Mark Hatfield Oscar® Winner	I'm here with ya, man! Although I strongly doubt that such a movie would ever be made, you're right -- the resemblance IS strong. I have always enjoyed the actor's work & it never struck me how much he does look like Mr. W. Still NP: RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK 5/5* It's 7:36 am (AZ time) & I'm leaving in 20 minutes or so......other films first, then RAIDERS at 1:45 pm. I'll be thinking about ya, Dantoris!
posted 02-05-2000 06:27 AM PT (US)

dantoris Oscar® Winner	Thanks, Mark. The film does look great on widescreen and THX digitally mastered, but I'm quite sure it's nothing compared to seeing it on the size screen it belongs.
posted 02-05-2000 11:34 AM PT (US)

dantoris Oscar® Winner	I know such a movie would most likely never get made (we came pray, though). I was just curious as to what you all thought about David Ogden Stiers playing John Williams. In my opinion, an excellant choice. Now: who could play Jerry Goldsmith? NP: "Spacehunter" complete score **/**
posted 02-05-2000 11:41 AM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	This is similar to a tangent one of the other threads went off on. David Ogden Stiers for Williams is fairly inspired. I suggested Dustin Hoffman for Goldsmith. On the back cover of THE PRIZE LP, there's a snapshot of Goldsmith (complete with buzz cut -- this is well before the shaggy-look seventies or the ponytail nineties) -- and I thought he looked amazingly like the young Hoffman.
posted 02-05-2000 12:07 PM PT (US)

dantoris Oscar® Winner	Coo. Dustin as Jerry. I never thought of that. But now that you mentioned, I think it's pretty good. I don't have any pictures of a younger Goldsmith, but judging from the ones I remember seeing here and there, Dustin would be a pretty good choice.
posted 02-05-2000 01:00 PM PT (US)

Will Oscar® Winner	How about the guy (i forgot his name, is it Michael Gough?) who played Alfred the Butler from the Batman movies be Goldsmith?
posted 02-06-2000 03:02 AM PT (US)

Dawk Oscar® Winner	dantoris- I was hoping you would have asked who would have SCORED a John Williams biography, cause I got to thinking about that while I was waiting for the page to load, and I realized that the only thing that would be really effective is for it to be scored by.. himself. I recently watched Immortal Beloved, and note they don't have an original score.. it's all Beethoven, and it worked VERY well. -Dawk
posted 02-06-2000 11:25 AM PT (US)

SBD Oscar® Winner	I like the idea of Sir Richard Attenbourogh (sp?) as John Williams (the resemblance is uncanny). I also like the idea of Dustin Hoffman as young Jerry Goldsmith. Maybe he could play Goldsmith in most of his adult life (does anyone remember Little Big Man?) Some other casting choices: Patrick Doyle ---> Brent Spiner (you can't honestly say that they don't look the least bit alike) David Newman ---> Beau Bridges (see above) John Debney ---> Kevin Kline (rent A Fish Called Wanda if anyone out there wants to debate this choice)
posted 02-06-2000 01:08 PM PT (US)

Tom Scofield unregistered	A movie about John Williams? Who to score? Maybe JAMES HORNER!! He could also score Goldsmith's movie! (That's a joke guys.)
posted 02-06-2000 07:32 PM PT (US)

dantoris Oscar® Winner	I'm not a huge Horner fan (I'm certainly not a basher), but I like some of his work. Still, I can laugh at that. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
posted 02-06-2000 09:48 PM PT (US)

Tom Scofield unregistered	I don't hate Horner either, dantoris, I like a number of his scores. I think his score to PROJECT X is actually very touching. I just couldn't resist the above remark. And, by the way, I think you choice of actors to play Williams is amazingly good. [This message has been edited by Tom Scofield (edited 06 February 2000).]
posted 02-06-2000 09:57 PM PT (US)

Dan Brecher Oscar® Winner	I think old Dickie Atenborough is a bit to cuddly and short to play Williams. If Donald Sutherland grew a beard he'd be quite good! Dan (UK) NP: Far & Away (**/***)
posted 02-07-2000 05:29 AM PT (US)

Luscious Lazlo Oscar® Winner	http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/4482/intro14.html Jerry Goldsmith http://www.sleepers.com/cmp/hoffman.html Dustin Hoffman
posted 02-07-2000 06:53 AM PT (US)

HAL 2000 Oscar® Winner	Man Lazlo, that's scary. Give Hoffman the long white hair and he's a dead ringer.
posted 02-07-2000 08:06 AM PT (US)

Thor Oscar® Winner	Maybe Ogden Stiers a decade or so ago. Today, I think he's a bit too big and fat to play the slim JW. Great casting choice, though, dantoris.
posted 02-07-2000 08:55 AM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	The choices for Williams are great. Dustin Hoffman for Goldsmith is not too bad either. Also to be considered is Robert De Niro. Scott NP:Biscential Man (**/***)
posted 02-07-2000 12:11 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	We'd have to cast George Lucas and Steven Spielberg too. For Lucas, I pick the young Charles Martin Smith -- exactly as he appears in AMERICAN GRAFFITI, in fact (so obviously is he a surrogate for Lucas in that movie!) Spielberg is a tougher call. Obviously Spielberg's doppelganger in many of his pictures has been Richard Dreyfuss, but they hardly look much alike. One of those creative jobs with the makeup, perhaps ... or maybe the young Bob Balaban. Yeah, that's it! Balaban looks and acts a LOT like Spielberg in CLOSE ENCOUNTERS after all ... Thanks Lazlo for digging up those likenesses. I was pretty sure I wasn't imagining the Goldsmith/Hoffman resemblance ... And Harrison Ford could be played by Dennis Quaid.
posted 02-07-2000 02:33 PM PT (US)

Dr.Evil Oscar® Winner	Burt Reynolds!!!! My idol!! Imagine him, conducting and running in a stolen Police Car. Nice.
posted 02-07-2000 04:11 PM PT (US)

SBD Oscar® Winner	Didya ever notice that Bill Conti looks a lot like Frank Langella (DAVE, CUTTHROAT ISLAND)? NP - The Phantom ("Flying To The Island")
posted 05-12-2000 09:00 AM PT (US)

Al Oscar® Winner	Edward James Olmos, when talking in his American voice, sounds exactly like Goldsmith. Just an observation. And I'll second SBD's choices for Doyle and Debney. NP: Howard's "Saint of Fort Washington"
posted 05-12-2000 09:16 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	Brent Spiner as Patrick Doyle, that's cool! One of the professors at my university (he teaches logic) looks amazingly similar to Williams.
posted 05-12-2000 04:19 PM PT (US)

Timmer Oscar® Winner	I would choose our own CHRIS KINSINGER to play JW! So Chris, Can you conduct and act?!....And are You up for it?!
posted 05-13-2000 04:35 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	Hey, that's true, I forgot that! And Sheriff Joe as Ian Holm, of course, if we extend the thread from composers to actors.
posted 05-13-2000 12:18 PM PT (US)

Howard L Oscar® Winner	I'd nominate William Daniels for a Goldsmith role. He's around the right age and has had plenty of experience in the pony-tailed department.
posted 05-13-2000 01:17 PM PT (US)

Ellen B Edgerton Oscar® Winner	You could always get John Sununu to play the ghost of Bernard Herrmann.
posted 05-13-2000 01:47 PM PT (US)

Howard L Oscar® Winner	THAT is perfect! Sununu wins out over Michael Lerner.
posted 05-13-2000 01:54 PM PT (US)

AaronR1074 Oscar® Winner	How about Richard Dryfuss or Anthony Hopkins? Dryfuss already played a composer/conductor and Hopkins is just plain one of the greatest character actors in living history. NP - The Beatles Anthology Volume 3 (disc 2, with all the Get Back sessions and alternate Abby Road takes. AWESOME CD!!) ***/***
posted 05-14-2000 06:34 PM PT (US)

Thor Oscar® Winner	How about getting a composer to play another composer? You see, Marvin Hamlisch would be a PERFECT Bernard Herrmann: Here they come - the leading composers gather!
posted 05-15-2000 09:02 AM PT (US)

Bulldog Oscar® Winner	Hamlisch is a good choice. Hey, does anyone know how I could get a hold of that Vanity Fair with the composers all over it? Can I order it still from Vanity Fair, etc.? What issue was it?
posted 05-16-2000 06:51 AM PT (US)

Thor Oscar® Winner	If you're asking me, I seriously don't know. I just stole the damn thing from MFADP. I would love to have a hard-copy of this one myself, though!
posted 05-16-2000 08:09 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	With a bit of makeup, I think Rick Moranis could do a good Bernard Herrmann, too.
posted 05-16-2000 09:24 AM PT (US)

Boris Oscar® Winner	How about Paul (Pee Wee) Reubens as James Horner? I'd like to hear him do that phoney British accent!
posted 05-17-2000 09:18 AM PT (US)

Chris Kinsinger Oscar® Winner	Timmer, I would indeed be HONORED to make my film acting debut in The Johnny Williams Story, opposite Dustin Hoffman as Jerry Goldsmith and Pee Wee, er, Paul Reubens as James Horner!
posted 05-17-2000 09:32 AM PT (US)

Bulldog Oscar® Winner	Horner's lookalike's long been settled.... Rob Morrow (NORTHERN EXPOSURE)
posted 05-17-2000 11:13 AM PT (US)

Boris Oscar® Winner	Bulldog, Horner may LOOK like Rob Morrow, but in spirit he's...Pee Wee.
posted 05-17-2000 07:53 PM PT (US)

Bulldog Oscar® Winner	No comment.
posted 05-18-2000 09:17 AM PT (US)

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