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    Topic:   Very interesting news regarding Jurassic Park 3.

     DeadPoet
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    Just read this over at filmtracks.com:

    From Dark Horizons:

    Jurassic Park 3: Canadian film mag Scope reports that composer John Williams has apparently passed on scoring the next JP film due to an already overcrowded schedule which includes compositions for "The Patriot" as well as various other Spielberg/Lucas upcoming productions. So who'll be replacing him? According to sources close to Director Joe Johnston, none other than James Horner ("Titanic", "Aliens") who has worked with Johnston before on the films "Jumanji" and "Rocketeer". Other names such as Hans Zimmer and John Debney have been brought up but Horner seems to be the front runner. Horner is currently busy at work finishing up the scores to both "The Perfect Storm" and "The Grinch" due out later this year.

    While I'm a huge Horner fan, I find this to be rather disappointing (if it is indeed true). I love Williams music and I hate to see him have to leave any project. If Horner does end up getting the job then I will be happy. But, I still wish Williams would be able to do the score. I guess we'll just have to see whether or not this news ends up being true....Comments? Opinions?

    --Jason S.

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    posted 02-03-2000 10:41 PM PT (US)     

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    Anything about the cast? I like Jeff Goldblum, but personally, I'd like to see the great (not to mention VERY underrated) Sam Neill return, and possibly Laura Dern.

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    posted 02-04-2000 12:35 AM PT (US)     

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    I really hope Horner isnīt scoring JP3. With the stuff he has put out lately, I just donīt think he could do it. Bring back WILLIAMS!!

    SFT

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    posted 02-04-2000 01:33 AM PT (US)     

     dantoris
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    I hate to suggest him for yet another in-development film mentioned on this board, but Goldsmith would me my choice, with the possibility going to Debney (excellant choice) or Elmer Bernstein (now that would be intersting).

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    posted 02-04-2000 02:05 AM PT (US)     

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    I for one, am thinking of the person none other than Jerry Goldsmith. Just think what he could do to a Rex-attack. Imagine the pounding percussion.

    Examples (I can just hear them playing in my head now):
    Main title
    The volcano/Imminent eruption
    Secret hideout
    Mutated DNA
    Rex Attack
    The Betrayal
    End titles

    WABBALOOSA!!!!!

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    posted 02-04-2000 02:19 AM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Oh, come on folks! Give the man a break. Williams probably passed cause he's tired of milking the JP cow (or dino?). I for one would LOVE to see Jerry Goldsmith do this picture, but hey- we must also realize that he's limiting himself to doing 3-4 projects a year. So, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Regarding James Horner? If Goldsmith doesn't do it, heck, I think Horner is an ideal choice. While I think that David Arnold would provide us with some really cool JP music, Horner is a part of that triad of composers(Goldsmith/Williams/Horner) that exists on a level of it's own. It simply makes sense that he do the film. Personally, I think that James Horner would do a terrific job, and I think that scoring a JP film, knowing the footsteps he is following, might influence the score into being something much different that what you are imagining. I know that Matt would agree with me here. Also, regardless of whether or not Horner would deliver a score you've heard before... he always gives us something very top notch and high in quality.

    Just my thoughts...
    Jeron

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    posted 02-04-2000 03:21 AM PT (US)     

     Kris
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    I'd love to see Debney compose JP3. That would be great.

    I'm a great fan of Goldsmith, but does he really have to score every single movie? Give him a break.

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    posted 02-04-2000 04:18 AM PT (US)     

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    I don't want to see Horner score this movie, after the second movie I don't even want to see this movie get made, JP2 was horrible.

    If horner does do it then maybe following in Williams footsteps will inspire him enough to compose a good score, in my opinion he hasn't in a while.

    It would be awesome if Michael Giacchino, who composed the score for the Lost World game, would score it. This guy needs to break into scoring movies, if he wants to that is.

    Audacity
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    posted 02-04-2000 06:29 AM PT (US)     

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    Right on Kris! I would love to hear Goldsmith bring some of the ferocity of Alien or Poltergeist to the Jurassic Park franchise but I satisfied that he's going about his business. Personally, I feel that the Jurassic Park premise has already been squeezed dry. I can't think of a good reason why they are doing another other than money.

    Since it is a sure bet that Williams and Goldsmith are out on this I would like to see James Newton Howard tackle this one. Judging from Outbreak and Waterworld I think he has the right stuff. We'll find out when we hear his work for Dinosaurs. I'm confident Horner will do fine but Horner's music has never scared me (Goldsmith's has given me the shivers many times) so I wonder if he has the edginess this film may require.

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    posted 02-04-2000 06:38 AM PT (US)     

     Pete M
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    I'm not convinced that Horner's the right bloke for the job - Jumanji was hardly splendid (although it was okay in the film). I'd definately love to hear what Goldsmith would come up with for this one. I'd also like to hear what Marco Beltrami would make of it.
    Audacity- Giacchiano would be a great choice too, particularly since he's already written music for a JP project.
    I just hope that the film will be better than the Lost World.

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    posted 02-04-2000 07:00 AM PT (US)     

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    I doubt that JP3 will make it big in the blockbuster. First of all, JP2 was "almost" a flop. Secondly Spielberg won't be directing it. I bet that if Spielberg is directing it, Williams would make time in his busy schedule to score it.

    As a matter of fact, it is very rare that a second sequel of any movie would make it big, in the exception if it is a saga or trilogy where the audience are left with a cliffhanger from the sequel (BTTF, Star Wars).

    Anyway, we'll just see.


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    posted 02-04-2000 07:12 AM PT (US)     

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    About Joe Johnston...

    Is this the same Joe Johnston who did all the Storyboards for the Star Wars Trilogy?

    Audacity

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    posted 02-04-2000 08:32 AM PT (US)     

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    JP3 would afford Horner a chance to score a genre he hasn't tackled in a LONG time. I'm intrigued because we may be looking at a return (I hope) to some of his early-nineties work (ie. The Rocketeer, Casper.) Also: if I'm not mistaken, this will be the first time Horner has ever directly followed in Williams footsteps. I wonder how many themes he'll utilize -- this is one of the few instances where I feel he'd at least be somewhat justified using them.

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    posted 02-04-2000 08:42 AM PT (US)     

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    Audacity,

    Yes, it the the same Joe Johnston. Not only did he do the storybaords for the first SW Trilogy but he designed many of the vehicles as well.

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    posted 02-04-2000 09:03 AM PT (US)     

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    Hal,

    Thanks a lot, that is interesting, everytime I saw his name I would wonder, now I know.

    Audacity

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    posted 02-04-2000 09:23 AM PT (US)     

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    Wedge, <snicker>

    By the Way, of course if Steven Spielberg were directing JP3 John Williams would be scoring it. It is in Steven Spielberg's contract that he will not do a movie unless John Williams scores it. There is some talk that that is why Spielberg isnt directing JP3. He was contracted to direct a 2nd and 3rd movie after the initial sucess of JP but when Williams passed on scoring JP3 (a few years ago - right after Lost World came out) then Spielberg had an out from his agreement due to his "keyman clause" with Williams.
    I am not a big Horner fan but I say, let him score it. this would be a good chance to redeem himself. But he would have to come up with something new and exciting.

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    posted 02-04-2000 10:47 AM PT (US)     

     Mark Hatfield
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    I hope the movie itself is worth seeing.....

    As to composers (if Horner does NOT get this - I like the guy's music very much but keep hearing the same passages visited again and again):

    Basil Poledouris?
    Christopher Young?
    David Newman?

    It would be neat to see some of "the other guys" get a chance. I could get real excited over a full-out sturm und drang Poledouris score, or a chance to listen to Christopher Young really cut loose.

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    posted 02-04-2000 10:52 AM PT (US)     

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    James Horner?????

    Meh, why not?

    James

    P.S. I guess I was the only person in the world who liked The LW.

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    posted 02-04-2000 02:05 PM PT (US)     

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    If Horner does handled scoring duties, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and will look forward to hearing what he comes up with. Indeed, this would really provide him with an ideal opportunity to create something fresh and not just recycle material verbatim.

    Wedge, I think he would incorporate Williams' materail sparingly, maybe just for an obligatory reference here and there. Williams himself really didn't rely on anything he wrote for JURASSIC PARK in his LOST WORLD score (a very underrated score), so I think Horner would approach things in a similar vein. However, you got me reminiscing back to 1987: maybe Williams WILL write the themes and Horner will just arrange and conduct it all, ala Alexander Courage? That would be interesting...

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    posted 02-04-2000 03:05 PM PT (US)     

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    Mark - So you get to see "Raiders" on the size screen it belongs, hu? Man, I've never been so damn jealous in my life.

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    posted 02-04-2000 03:12 PM PT (US)     

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    Granted there are several people that would be great to have a chance to score this, but for some reason I think Horner would do a great job.

    Granted, the film might suck, but we might get some great music out of it.

    Just think - for the scenes where they have the great dino battle, Horner could just use his Trek II stuff!

    Kevin
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    posted 02-04-2000 04:49 PM PT (US)     

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    Dantoris --
    I will be enjoying it for you, too, then. RAIDERS is without question my very favorite movie of all time....I was one of those wackos who saw it 30+ times in the theater when it came out (the summer before I turned 18). Please, Mr. Spielberg, release this one on DVD soon! Widescreen on tape is nice, but....
    Don't know if I'm going to laugh or cry when the lights lower for this one.

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    posted 02-04-2000 10:11 PM PT (US)     

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    I don't have anything to say about this. I still say that "Jurassic Park" was one of the best movies of the 1990s and Lost World was just a way to make more money, but the effects were better.

    I think that they are "reaching" into this JP stuff a bit much. Its over and done with.

    BTW, does anyone else think it would be cool if they released Jurassic Park on DVD? Think about it, they had to cut the movie (a lot) to make it PG-13, think of the bonus stuff!

    --Kyp

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    posted 02-04-2000 10:22 PM PT (US)     

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    Kyp -

    According to some reliable information, Jurassic Park and Lost World will be out on DVD this year.

    And also, even better, Jaws.

    You just have to read up in all the DVD sites to find the info. DVDfile.com announced this last week.

    Kevin

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    posted 02-05-2000 06:57 AM PT (US)     

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    Once I heard Johnson was going to direct, I figured it was a foregone conclusion that they'd go for Horner. Horner seems to be Spielberg's favorite composer other than Williams these days, anyway.

    I do wish it were Goldsmith, though. Horner has been to this particular trough too many times. In fact, I doubt he'd do a better job on the dinosaur front than he already did with THE LAND BEFORE TIME (which sports one of my favorite opening cues of all time).

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    posted 02-05-2000 12:24 PM PT (US)     

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    Hate to break it to you Rocco, but credit for the opening to Land Before Time should go to Bela Bartok, not James Horner. Take a listen to Bartok's Wooden Prince and you'll know what I mean. I'll admit Horner does a nice job arranging the piece but the thematic material is definitely not his own.

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    posted 02-05-2000 01:54 PM PT (US)     

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    Hey James,

    I liked Lost World, too. Probably because I love dinos (and Julianne Moore ain't bad, neither).

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    posted 02-05-2000 02:43 PM PT (US)     

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    Every time I mention liking a Horner piece, there's always SOMEBODY who knows who wrote it first!!!! GLORY is one of my favorites of his, but its influences are all over the map! I was amazed to hear THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES later and find that Horner even kyped the main title for that in one scene.

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    posted 02-05-2000 03:48 PM PT (US)     

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    Hmmmm...
    I don't know. Horner is good but i think better choices would be McNeely or Michal G.


    Scott

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    posted 02-05-2000 08:51 PM PT (US)     

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    Thank you Spor2
    Sorry H Rocco
    We cant help it if Horner Steals from everybody - and then has the Gall to steal from himself over and over again.
    I have noticed over the years that whenener Horner is going to score some action there is a lot of "maybe he'll give us some Star Trek II stuff." that is kind of sad when we reach back through almost 20 years of scores to find what we really want!
    Allright, sorry. I new my Horner Bashing would surface sooner or later. It is like a wherewolf - it hides and then one day I cant stand it and I have to say something mean.
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