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    Topic:   FSM Messageboard

     Kris
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    It's funny how many FSM members I see around on this site. Every day it seems to me that there are more and more.

    Hi to you all and ofcorse to the more experienced members on this board.

    BTW: What does the NP mean? Probably not No Problem. Are there any more such abbreviations on this board?

    Kris

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    posted 01-26-2000 09:42 AM PT (US)     

     Pete M
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    Hello to you to. I guess I'm among the "more experienced members". Maybe. Anywho - NP means Now Playing, as in whatever music you happen to be listening to at the time. Sometimes you can also put a star rating for it, if you feel like it.


    np Stargate ****/***** (as in 4 out of 5)


    Oh, & welcome to Moviemusic.com. (that felt good)

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    posted 01-26-2000 09:49 AM PT (US)     

     JEC
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    The FSM board turned into 'All Goldsmith, All the time.' Enough's enough.

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    posted 01-26-2000 10:50 AM PT (US)     

     Dr.Evil
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    FSM is now D2 homeplace, and for the ones who argue with him.
    Well, when the messages are visible.
    It's nice here!

    NP. Shania Twain's Come on Over. - A man can live without soundtracks now and then!

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    posted 01-26-2000 11:30 AM PT (US)     

     dantoris
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    Actually, the FSM messageboard was a fine place to visit until two things happened: 1) DANIEL2 showed up occasionally, and 2) Y2K. That's why the board's all screwed up now. I'm a faithful FSM member (have been for several months now), but until they get it fixed, I'll be here.

    NP: Chris Gaines Greatest Hits (hey, it's a soundtrack. the movie just hasn't been released yet).

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    posted 01-26-2000 12:26 PM PT (US)     

     Luscious Lazlo
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    Attention dantoris. Here's the best thing I've read about the Chris Gaines record. Do NOT read this if you're a Garth Brooks worshipper:
    http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issues/1999-10-21/music.html

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    posted 01-26-2000 01:30 PM PT (US)     

     HAL 2000
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    I'm an FSM refugee too. What IS the deal with the board over there? And yes, the whole DANIEL2 thing did get way overbearing.

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    posted 01-26-2000 01:42 PM PT (US)     

     JoeInSanDiego
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    DID? It still IS!!

    NP: The Haunting (Goldsmith)

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    posted 01-26-2000 02:25 PM PT (US)     

     Luscious Lazlo
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    Howdy Sheriff: Please don't hate me because I'm beautiful. If you must hate me, then hate me because I disagree with Goldsmith's stylistic choice in *The Haunting*.

    I don't give a rat's hiney about that drippy character named Eleanor. And I begrudge Goldsmith for musically identifying with her. The movie is a boo-fest, goddammit. And the music should've been non-stop spooky-dooky. Not that tender lyrical elegiac stuff. (As good as it is.)

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    posted 01-26-2000 03:18 PM PT (US)     

     dantoris
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    All I can say is that Garth does rock and R&B a helluva lot better than Shania Twain.

    (Can't wait for the Gaines movie. How about another Gaines CD, too, Garth?)

    NP: "Innerspace" - complete score ****/**** (man, I love "The Pod Battle")

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    posted 01-26-2000 03:34 PM PT (US)     

     JoeInSanDiego
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    That is exactly what I thought wehen I first watched The Haunting...in fact...I have several posts describing how much I hated that it wasn't like Alien...then I listened to the music and realized what Goldsmith was oging after...the character of Eleanor is a tragic figure if ever there was one...alone, desperate and unsure...and the music he provides for her is perfect, alone with the ominois string/synth theme for the House itself. No, it isn't Alien...but why the heck should it be?

    NP - Star Trek TMP (Recording sessions) - Goldsmith

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    posted 01-26-2000 03:35 PM PT (US)     

     Andre Lux
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    Unfortunately FSM board is dying.
    Not only because of the YK2 bug, but most of all because it's completely abandoned. Now it should be called DANIEL2's play ground, since he's there posting dozen of new threads every day just to make fun of the face of those simpletons who still are taking the guy seriously...

    Indeed a shame...

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    posted 01-26-2000 07:46 PM PT (US)     

     Dr.Evil
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    Garth Brooks is fake.
    And where is his boobs?

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    posted 01-27-2000 03:44 AM PT (US)     

     Kris
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    The question is how long will D2 stay away from here. He's probably around already.

    NP: The Living Daylights ****/*****

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    posted 01-27-2000 07:40 AM PT (US)     

     Tom Scofield
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    Yes, FSM has become the Goldsmith all the time board. And if you make any unworshipful remark about him you are instantly as "bad" as D2. I LIKE Goldsmith, but enough is enough.

    All anyone talks about it THE MUMMY or THE HAUNTING, average scores (and lousy movies) for Goldsmith, at best, he's done so much better.

    Humphrey Searle's original score to the 1963 THE HAUNTING is much more adventurous than Goldsmith's version (although I will give Goldsmith the doubt because the recent film is so much worse) and Franz Reizenstein's THE MUMMY (1959) is silk compared to Goldsmith's wool (but, once again, the movie was scum, so I must defend Goldsmith somewhat).

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    posted 01-27-2000 10:37 AM PT (US)     

     JoeInSanDiego
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    I watched the original version of THE HAUNTING before watching the remake. While I think the original film was MUCH more satisfying and intense, I found the score almost made me want to turn it off several times...to be completely honest...I thought it was HORRIBLE. Now, whether it added to my distaste of what was happening onscreen or was just a visceral reaction to the music itself, what it managed to accomplish was to take me out of the story...(my best friend and I watched it together and he also commented on how bad the music was...so at least I am not alone in the world in believing it to be so!! )

    As a filmmaker, I would have ditched the score immediately...but perhaps it was Robert Wise's vision that the music be what it was? Who can say? All I know is that I felt it was completely inappropriate for the film. Just MHO!

    Joe

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    posted 01-27-2000 02:52 PM PT (US)     

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    Joel,

    I have to disagree with you on the effectiveness of Humphrey Searle's score in the original THE HAUNTING - parts of it really wouldn't make the best listening music, but in the film, it greatly adds to the effect (thinking esp. of when I first saw the film, when I was 8 yrs. old, home from school and alone in the house - the scene when the camera suddenly zooms into Julie Harris' face from a high angle, accompanied by a cacophony of sound.)

    Not having seen the remake (which should have been titled POLTERGEIST 4 - THE FLEECING), I can't comment on Goldsmith's score.

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    posted 01-27-2000 03:42 PM PT (US)     

     Tom Scofield
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    Joe:

    I always have great respect for your opinions, please don't be offended by what I wrote, It's just my own opinion. Overall, I think Jerry is a terrific composer and I don't mean him any disrespect. I've met him personally, and I liked him very much. I shouldn't take my frustrations about the problems on the other board out on him.

    PeterK:

    Believe it or not, I appreciate your censoring of my post. I was stepping into a trap that I should have known better than to do. I'm really not normally a name caller. Thanks.

    Joe, the comments that PeterK removed were NOT about you.

    Bye the way, Joe, what was it about the Searle score that you didn't like? I'm very curious to understand why you don't like it. I know it is one of those scores that people either love or hate. It was scored in a rather dry, astringent, modernistic style and it is a cold score, compared to Goldsmith's warmer tone, but I did think it suited Wise's film's more methodical, detached style. I'd love to read your comments on it.

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    posted 01-27-2000 04:27 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    THE HAUNTING was almost worth watching just for the awesome production design by Eugenio Zanetti. I heard much of the score before I saw the movie (the only thing I could get into that evening, is why I bothered), and it's just as well I did: the score WITH the film is quite tremendous, far more impressive than I thought at first listen of the CD. This is a fairly common experience I've had with Goldsmith: his stuff can be so dense and (as Mr. Insandiego posted elsewhere) so insistently emotional that understanding its context is often essential. It's a shame the movie sucked so hard -- and deeply depressing to see such virtuoso technical talent wasting so much time and SO MUCH MONEY on something that was artistically doomed (Jan DeBont should NEVER have traded his career as an accomplished cameraman for becoming a wretched director of hyperbudget nonsense ... )

    Goldsmith's ability to ennoble even so rancid a picture as THE HAUNTING is mirrored in the amazing performance of Lili Taylor, who had virtually nothing to work with, but easily stole the movie from the estimable Liam Neeson (who looked even more pained than he did in PHANTOM MENACE) and the magnetic Catherine Zeta-Jones.

    I understand Spielberg was so horrified when he saw the picture (why did he greenlight it anyway?) that he ordered substantive recuts and reshoots. No doubt one reason his own usual editor, Michael Kahn, is the only one credited. (Spielberg and Kahn did similar cut-and-paste on POLTERGEIST, but to far greater effect -- though I still resist the idea that Spielberg actually ghostdirected POLTERGEIST: except for some of the editing, it doesn't look or feel like his work to me.)

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    posted 01-27-2000 04:29 PM PT (US)     

     Tom Scofield
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    Admittedly, the production design was very good, a little boroque for my tastes, but I don't fault that in itself. It just seems that the film in general is totally at odds with the spirit of Shirley Jackson's book, which I have read many times. This is a very cold, spare and dark book. The overabundance of the production was just too much for me.

    I'm not one of these people that gets all upset about CGI effects. When done well, they can add tremendously to a film's effect, but when overdone, as I believe they were in THE HAUNTING, the effect just becomes so cartoonish that all suspense is dissipated.

    It seemed that every time a scene was beginning to work, the effects would be poured on until everything was smothered in eye candy.

    To Goldsmith's credit, I believe he honestly tried to find some way to bring some humanity to the film, he always does, and that is most certainly to be admired. Unfortunately, this film's tone is just too screwed up, and this humane approach, admirable as it is, helped pushed the film over into the maudlin. This is the sort of film where the Goldsmith that wrote SECONDS was needed. Of course, this may be more Spielberg's fault, as this is often the one area when he just doesn't seem to know when to quit. He's a great film maker, but he seems so often to not know when pathos becomes bathos.

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    posted 01-27-2000 05:02 PM PT (US)     

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    I admit, I kinda liked The Haunting. There were two scenes, though, that was totally ridiclulous. One was Neeson being pulled underwater, and then let go for no reason! And than, the crem de la crem (sp?) was that incredibly dumb looking bird that came alive, attacked, and then stopped, again for no apparent reason. But I thought overall it was better than the original (no I have not read the story). Just my opinion.

    N.P. Empire Strikes Back <*****/*****>

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    posted 01-27-2000 06:20 PM PT (US)     

     Marcelo Ferreyra
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    Just to say Hello to the old FSM veterans.
    Here's another emigree.
    I hope You don't mind.

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