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    Topic:   what happened to Nick Glennie Smith??

     Vladimir
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    I Loved his work with the Rock but since then he's never realy has a great score or even had much work? Alien Resurection and the man in the iron mask are the last projects I remember him doing? Has anyone heard of any up coming jobs for him because I know he has the talent it just hasen't been utilized lately?

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    posted 01-24-2000 10:07 AM PT (US)     

     Ed Coleman
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    Vlad, I think he did a pretty good job with "Man in the Iron Mask".

    Ed

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    posted 01-24-2000 10:10 AM PT (US)     

     SFT
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    Smith did not score Alien Resurrection. John Frizzel did.

    SFT

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    posted 01-24-2000 10:33 AM PT (US)     

     Cole
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    Yeah, where is he?
    I was looking forward to his work.
    I hope he pops back up.
    Maybe they will take him back at Media Ventures b/c after he left he has only done two scores; and both were box office flops (although I really enjoyed the music for The Man in the Iron Mask)

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    posted 01-24-2000 02:41 PM PT (US)     

     Steve Hughes
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    I've never been keen on Nick Glennie-Smith. I'll go further than that -- I think he stinks. But that's just my opinion. I think he's the worst of the Zimmer clones. I'd probably say that The Man In The Iron Mask is the worst score I own. The Rock was pretty good but that's because he was helped by Zimmer and Gregson-Williams. His solo scores have that awful, bounding, repetitive, pre-packaged synth/orchestra sound.

    Stay in retirement, please.

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    posted 01-24-2000 02:50 PM PT (US)     

     spango
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    He died of boredom when he had to listen to his music...

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    posted 01-24-2000 04:18 PM PT (US)     

     Dr.Evil
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    He is not a GOLD smith, so, is nobody!

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    posted 01-24-2000 04:37 PM PT (US)     

     Shaun Rutherford
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    I think that's exactly what happened. Everybody heard The Man In The Iron Mask. I'm with Steve on this one!

    Shaun

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    posted 01-24-2000 08:26 PM PT (US)     

     Cole
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    Oh come on you guys!
    You are going to have to explain to me just a little better/more why you dont like him

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    posted 01-25-2000 12:38 AM PT (US)     

     Justin
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    I happen to think NGS has a lot of talent. I think the reason Lion King 2 did so well was from his outstanding score. Too bad it is not available. I don't think any of you would complain about that one.

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    posted 01-25-2000 01:41 AM PT (US)     

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    I really don´t get why people feel they have to bash certain composers like that. If I where to say something like "Goldsmith sucks!" (which he doesn´t) I would sure as hell explain WHY I think he sucks. Nobody ever gains anything by saying stuff like that, and we are here to learn from eachother.

    SFT


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    posted 01-25-2000 02:09 AM PT (US)     

     Thor
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    SFT, a couple of the (former FSM) posters in here will never learn. I guess we'll have to cope with that.

    As for Nick Glennie-Smith, I like him a lot, in fact I think he is, together with John Powell, the best Zimmer-clone at MV.

    THE ROCK, which was basically Smith's work was impressive, as was the track "I Dreamt I Woke Up", which he cowrote with Zimmer. That track was from my favourite Zimmer score BEYOND RANGOON.

    IRON MASK was also an enjoyable score, albeit a bit clichéed.

    If there's ONE among the MV guys that I'm not so keen on, though, it would have to be Harry Gregson-Williams - SMILLA was one long drone bore and REPLACEMENT KILLERS was a more subdued and slowmoving action score than Barry ever could write...

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    posted 01-25-2000 04:10 AM PT (US)     

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    Thor,
    Well you can't forget Gregson-Williams' music in Armageddon which was awsome! Also
    'The Whole Wide World' was really good too, and 'The Borrowers' was also nice.
    Also his last score 'Light it Up' I thought that was great in the movie, too bad it wasn't released.

    As for Gleenie-Smith, come one guys, there was nothing wrong with Man in the Iron Mask!
    And The Rock was a kick ass score! It's just that it got a bad CD release. Don't forget He also did 'Fire Down Below' and 'Home Alone 3'.

    Who ever is going around influcing people that synths in music is a bad this thing, they need to be kicked in the head. If I can take pieces of wood and make them into music instuments then why can't I use my computer?

    [This message has been edited by TimT (edited 25 January 2000).]

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    posted 01-25-2000 07:23 AM PT (US)     

     Thor
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    Tim:

    Well, I loved Rabin's patriotic theme for ARMAGEDDON, but which parts of the score was Williams'? I never exclude a composer untill "proven guilty" (unlike certain other posters in here).

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    posted 01-25-2000 07:43 AM PT (US)     

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    The Prologue, the scene where they had to fly around the moon and then one of the shuttles crashed. Thats was all Gregson-Williams. and alot more, I read somewhere in an intervew that it was 50/50 between Rabin and Gregson-Williams. All the music on the CD release is Rabin's though.

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    posted 01-25-2000 07:47 AM PT (US)     

     Thor
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    Ah, I see. Thanks! Maybe that's why I didn't remember any of the music (I always listen to film MUSIC, not so much the music as appearing in the actual film).

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    posted 01-25-2000 08:01 AM PT (US)     

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    Why explains? His musak speaks for itself.
    At least I learn to understand a bit of music...

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    posted 01-25-2000 10:18 AM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    In his unsolcited defense, I have to say--I certainly hope to hear more from Nick Glennie-Smith in the future. "The Man in the Iron Mask" was fantastic. And much of his other work I've heard on television, which as of yet remains unavailable--this, too, I would like to hear more of.

    Similar for Harry Gregson-Williams. I would still like to add his "Armageddon" work to my library--! More please!

    They're doing a great job--hope they keep it up.

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    posted 01-25-2000 10:19 AM PT (US)     

     THE GREEK
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    I can't understand the reason you all like Smith's music.He is a composer with no inspiration who composes music for bad films.
    His music is completely flat with poor orchestrations.If composers like him are the future of film music i feel sad.Really sad...
    I certainly don't mean to offend anyone of my fellow filmmusic fans.It's just my opinion.

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    posted 01-25-2000 10:50 AM PT (US)     

     James
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    There's something I could say right now, but I don't want to deal with all the insults that would undoubtedly be thrown at me...

    If I remember correctly, Nick Glennie-Smith is/was supposed to be doing some TV series based on a classic novel which I can't remember at the moment... I'll have to check on that...

    James
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    posted 01-25-2000 01:03 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    Gentlemen (and the occasional lady),

    All you have to do to keep track of Nick Glennie-Smith or anyone else in this business is go to the Internet Movie Database, www.moviedatabse.com, type in whoever you're looking for in the top left column, and there you are.

    I have not done so for Nick Glennie-Smith, because he interests me so little.

    Some of the Media Ventures people have done fine work, to my mind, mainly John Powell and Harry Gregson-Williams. (They did a lovely job teamed up on ANTZ, too.) The rest, I can so far take or leave. But you never know. I never thought I'd want to buy the CON AIR score, but I did, and am quite fond of it. But nothing short of Chinese water torture would compel me to pick up ARMAGEDDON. And even then ...

    P.S. Trevor Rabin seems to be a Media Ventures guy now, but I understand he was originally a rock guitarist. Band name forgotten. My buddy Dave would know (not someone who posts here)

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    posted 01-25-2000 01:11 PM PT (US)     

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    Mark Mancina, in my opinion, is the most gifted of the media ventures folks...his score to Moll Flanders is absolutely stunning!

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    posted 01-25-2000 01:12 PM PT (US)     

     TimT
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    Trevor Rabin was never apart of Media Ventures he just uses the studio for mixing. And Mark Mancina left it about 6 years ago....

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    posted 01-25-2000 01:20 PM PT (US)     

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    Ah yes... the TV series Nick Glennie-Smith is scoring is called The Secret Adventures of Jules Verne, and is only on TV in Canada and the UK.

    One thing about the Internet Movie Database... they make a lot of mistakes and in many cases are incomplete... but they are mostly a great resource.

    James

    [This message has been edited by James (edited 25 January 2000).]

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    posted 01-25-2000 02:14 PM PT (US)     

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    Trvor Rabin played a few years in a progressive rock band called "Yes". Rick Wakeman and stuff, anyone?
    The Yes singer, Jon Anderson sung at LEGEND album, US version.

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    posted 01-25-2000 02:20 PM PT (US)     

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    How could you not like him? Man in the Iron Mask is one of my fav scores of the decade, and definitely in the genre of knight-type music.

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    posted 01-25-2000 06:34 PM PT (US)     

     Thor
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    That's right, Trevor Rabin played with Yes and Wakeman for several years. Yes, along with such bands as Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Manfred Mann's Earthband and Pink Floyd were some of the foremost propagandists of progressive rock, a genre more film music fans should delve into, as its "epic and dramatic" style is not far off from the genre we all love.

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    posted 01-26-2000 09:20 AM PT (US)     

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    I love Man in the Iron Mask. I wore the music out by listening to the cd so many times. My mom even loves the music, and she's not a score fan!

    Michel

    Composer-bashing is definitely uncalled for.

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    posted 01-30-2000 07:36 PM PT (US)     

     Hard Target
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    I'll just say this, I'm not fond of Glennie-Smith's work and frankly I think it's too lightweight. The Rock was crap although listenable thanks to Hans Zimmer. Producer Jerry Bruckheimer at the time went as far as to say that he really hated the score. To me the only score that I would really would love to have from him is Home Alone 3. Which surprisingly grew on me as the film went along because it wasn't bombastic or lightweight. It was fun and it had a catchy theme for the villians that I enjoyed. But other than that I have no reason to get any of his scores. I just don't like him. To me personally the composer to watch out for outta the Media Ventures bunch is John Powell. He's more unique than the others that are currently there.

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