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Topic: John Williams & LOST IN SPACE/TIME TUNNEL/LAND OF THE GIANTS scores

Ford A. Thaxton

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The topic of Early (or older) John Williams Scores seem to have come in several folder on the message and I was wondering how many of you have picked up GNP CRESCENDO CD releases of music from "The Time Tunnel", "Land of the Giants" and "Lost In Space"?All of these contains (in my very biased) opinion some real jems by Mr. Willaims.
As a matter of Fact Volume 3 of "Lost In Space" has just come out with Williams score to "My Name,Mr. Nobody" which in many ways is the forrunner of his score to "Jane Eyre" (Another CD that no serious soundtrack fan should be without).
Have you taken a chance on these discs?
Any Opinions?
Ford A. Thaxton
posted 01-22-2000 02:12 PM PT (US) 
Kevin
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I've always been a fan of those shows "way back when," so I jumped at the chance to purchase those discs when they came out.In fact, I bought the 6-disc set "Fantasy Worlds of Irwin Allen" GNP issued a few years ago.
I have not had a chance to order the 3rd Lost In Space disc as of yet. Hopefulkly in a short time, as I know it will be fantastic.
Personally, if anyone can get their hands on these CD's, do it. The whole set is wonderful, magnificent, stupendous, etc.

Kevin
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Luscious Lazlo

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Memo to Ford & Kevin: I am of the decided opinion that "Morning After" from *The Hungry Sea* is the single greatest piece of music ever written in the history of this particular galaxy-cluster. I am not engaging in idle hyperbole. I really mean it."Chariot Titles" is another mini-masterpiece. It is 64 seconds of Promethean profundity. It reminds me of the term that Stravinsky used to describe Beethoven: "virile melancholy". I love the bass harmonies of the passing bass-string notes.
Here's a tidbit I noticed: There's an ascending-trumpet finale motif at the end of both *The Reluctant Stowaway* & *The Hungry Sea*. Williams took that motif and spun 4 tracks from it. Namely: "Earthquake", "Chariot Titles", "Morning After", & "The Inland Sea". I was irritated by a sense of deja-vu until I figured out the common denominator. I'm not saying that those 4 tracks sound exactly alike. But they were all vaguely derived from that ascending finale motif.
The *Wild Adventure* score by Alexander Courage is another flat-out masterpiece. Courage is a writer of subtle harmonic genius. He's a true musical mystic who's been tragically under-utilized in the business.
I haven't yet heard Volume 3 of the *Lost in Space* records. I wasn't at all impressed by the scores that Williams & Courage wrote for *Land of the Giants* & *The Time Tunnel*. The only nexis of inspiration seemed to be *Lost in Space*. Goldsmith's *Voyage* score also bored me to tears.
posted 01-23-2000 01:09 PM PT (US) 
Michael G

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The "My Friend Mr. Nobody" score by Williams on LIS Vol. 3 is fantastic (IMHO). In what way is it like "Jane Eyre"? (I've been thinking about getting that disc, too.)I also greatly enjoy the "Derelict" score on LIS 3, though it's not as coherent a piece (understandably, since three composers had a hand in it). The music often has an eerie, mysterious quality that is quite evocative of deep space and lonely planets (to me, anyway).
The mono sound isn't the greatest on this CD, though it's certainly listenable. The liner notes mention that termites (!) were beginning to eat away at the master tapes when they were found--which makes me shudder. Is that why the famous LIS "Family" theme is so abbreviated on the disc?
Anyway, definitely get it if you remember the LIS TV music with any fondness.
posted 01-23-2000 07:50 PM PT (US) 
Luscious Lazlo

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Regarding *The Reluctant Stowaway* from Volume 1: At 3/1:26 Williams showcases a truly weird & original instrumental timbre. My guess is that this faint celestial sound was created by felt-tipped mallets doing a drum roll on a tubular bell.Remember the creepy piccolo at the end of "Sea Attack #1" from *Jaws*? There's a similar piccolo routine in "Defrosting" (at 3/5:07). It's meandering & atonal & arhythmic. It sounds like nothing so much as a haunted tea kettle.
Regarding *Island in the Sky* from Volume 1: A track called "Will Is Threatened" starts at 7/1:30. I love the trumpet line that starts at 7/1:38. That trumpet line is backed with terrific harmonic orchestration and key changes.
Regarding *The Hungry Sea* from Volume 1: "Land Ho" is a short & slow flute tune accompanied by vibraphone & bass strings. It's a brief oasis of bittersweet placidity. And it means more to me than the entire combined oeuvres of Bach, Beethoven, & Brahms.
posted 01-24-2000 11:34 AM PT (US) 
Marcelo Ferreyra

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All the CD's are very recommendable.
But in The Time Tunnel many familiar cues are missing.
I think that deserves a second volume.
The Vol 3 of LOST is very good too.
In the vein of the others.
And the cues of Salter are very rare.
I've always been fun of Salter so,for me this is a must have.
And the Williams cues are,as you said,
little gems.posted 02-16-2000 10:46 PM PT (US) 
Bel366

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I didn't get the entire set, but I did pick up the two LOST IN SPACE cds, the LAND OF THE GIANTS one and the one for VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA. When I was MUCH younger, I
LIS and VOYAGE were on after school when I got home and I LOVED the opening credit sequence for LIS's third season. The volume two cd for LIS is worth the price just for that!
posted 02-17-2000 04:38 AM PT (US) 
Thor

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Just got LOST IN SPACE, VOL. 3 yesterday. Takes some time getting used to (due to the Herrmannesque inspiration), but I'm sure I'll get [to] it eventually.Love Walter Park's quasi-militaristic main title (that was unused for the second season).
posted 02-17-2000 04:47 AM PT (US) 
Marcelo Ferreyra

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Hey Thor,
What do You think about the Salters cues.
For me is like the original (AKA the Salter
we're accostumed to listen) but with
much an smaller orchestra.
Is like the other side of salter.
The feeling is similar,to me anyway,
as the feeling that I had when I'd listened for the first time the Berrnard Herrmann cues for Twilight Zone.
I mean chamber Hermann.
And besides of all the musical analisis
that I coud make there is something else...
It's fun!!!
posted 02-19-2000 08:47 PM PT (US) 
Thor

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Well, Marcelo, off the top of my head I cannot seem to recall which tracks from "The Derelict" was Salter's and which were Stein's and LaSalle's. But I seem to remember that this episode score was very varied, of course due to the fact that each composer had their own distinct style. Still, they had to blend in with each other. Kind of a paradox, don't you think?
posted 02-21-2000 09:24 AM PT (US) 
Marcelo Ferreyra

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Indeed.
And is amazing how this golden age composers
coud blend themselves with each other
and archieve a musical work that is so
unite.
Beeing a composer myself,I know that this is
one of the most difficult tasks to do.
To write in a certain style,and beiing coherent.
Sadly that is not well recognized sometimes.posted 02-21-2000 10:28 AM PT (US) 
Marcelo Ferreyra

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Here are the cues by Salter on the Vol3 LISTracks 8 9 and 10
agree with you Thor.
In track 9 it's difficult to know where the
Salter music ends and the La Salle begins.posted 02-24-2000 12:15 PM PT (US) 
Michael G

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Salter also composed track 7, which includes the spacey fanfare "Flashing Lights" and the comical march tune "Frontal Robotomy." Great stuff.
posted 02-24-2000 05:19 PM PT (US) 
Luscious Lazlo

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Michael G said: "I also greatly enjoy the DERELICT score...The music often has an eerie mysterious quality".My favorite thing is Richard LaSalle's NEW PLANET motif:
http://users.erols.com/msapp/LISvol3tr11clip.html
Here's a clip from FILMY SPIDER WEB: http://users.erols.com/msapp/LISvol3tr08clip.html
Can anyone identify the instrument that created the shimmering gong-ish effect? Is it a harp or a gong or what?posted 05-20-2002 09:29 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
