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    Topic:   Jaws re-issue??

     RBbehemoth
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    I have seen postings saying Jaws will be released in an expanded Cd...but does anyone know when?? Thanks!

    Also, were the scored to Jaws 3 and 4 ever released?

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    posted 01-22-2000 12:25 PM PT (US)     

     Brad Wills
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    JAWS is being recorded in Scotland with Joel McNeely conducting. Varese will release it...um, sometime. JAWS 3-D with a score by Alan Parker (not the director) was released on LP. JAWS 4 by Michael Small had no offical release.

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    posted 01-22-2000 01:24 PM PT (US)     

     Wedge
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    If I'm not mistaken, Jaws 3-D also had a cassette release. Jaws 4, while lacking a release, had an 11+ minute suite of the score's highlights on the CD-compilation "Cliffhangers." It's really not all that bad. It would be nice to see a Jaws 3/4 score combination CD sometime in the future, if for no other reason than posterity.

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    posted 01-22-2000 02:31 PM PT (US)     

     RBbehemoth
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    I think the best thing about the movies Jaws 3 and 4 were the scores. They aren't great, but not bad in my opinion.

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    posted 01-22-2000 04:08 PM PT (US)     

     Mark Olivarez
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    Varese is no longer doing the JAWS score. Decca is now planning on releasing it with 30 minutes of extra music. It was on their official site. For more info go to http://johnwilliams.com-us.com/ for a link to the site. If Mcneely does as good as a job he did with Herrmann's scores for Varese I think the disc should be great. I have the Jaws 3 record album.

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    posted 01-22-2000 10:26 PM PT (US)     

     Wedge
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    Here's the Decca press release:

    "JAWS ATTACKS AGAIN!

    It was 25 years ago this June when Jaws jump-started director Steven Spielberg's career. And who can forget that ominous John Williams' theme? Audiences literally screamed in theatres as they heard the music herald an imminent shark attack on an another unsuspecting swimmer!

    The original soundtrack became a best-selling album in 1975 and now Decca is creating a collector's edition, featuring an extra 30 minutes of music never previously released (the original album was only 35 minutes). With special packaging, interviews, photographs and other memorabilia from the movie, this will be a unique souvenir of a classic, groundbreaking soundtrack and film."

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    posted 01-22-2000 10:45 PM PT (US)     

     Ford A. Thaxton
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    I was wondering when DECCA was going to get around to putting out a press release about this.

    FYI, the original JAWS album was a re-recording of the score,Williams expanded and reshaped the score for CD release. Did a great job IMHO.

    This new CD appears to be the Original Soundtrack recording, which I suspect has been remixed into stereo from the origianl 4 track masters.

    It will interesting to compare both CD releases.

    I do however feel sorry for VARESE, they distributed by the same company as Decca.

    BTW, what's the URL for this press release?


    Ford

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    posted 01-23-2000 12:41 AM PT (US)     

     JEC
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    Ford, I'm not following you. You said the new recording appears to be mixed from the original tracks. I thought McNeely did a rerecording. Are there two different releases coming out?

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    posted 01-23-2000 08:58 AM PT (US)     

     Wedge
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    I'm not sure that was a "press release" per se. I did some hunting around their official website and tracked down that announcement buried under "news."

    I, too, was under the impression that a re-recording was underway. Did Decca scrap that idea in favor of the original tracks? Ooh! I mean, not that I despise re-recordings or anything -- ideally, we'd have both -- but in this case I'd rather have the originals.

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    posted 01-23-2000 09:58 AM PT (US)     

     Wedge
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    Oh ... sorry, Ford, the URL ... here ya go:
    http://www.deccaclassics.com/content/news_newreleases/stories.asp?year=2000&month=january&news_file=sixteen

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    posted 01-23-2000 10:00 AM PT (US)     

     Ford A. Thaxton
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    OK, let me make myself a bit clearer.

    In 1975 John Williams RE-RECORDED the score to JAWS for album release, the LP/CASSETTE/CD that has been available from MCA for years, has NOT been the OST. Williams reshaped the score and expanded it for this release.

    VARESE SARABANDE is in the process (or have finsihed) doing a re-recording for their label of the score for the 25th Anniversary with the Royal Scottish National Orchestra.

    DECCA RECORDS, which is Polygram label now owned by UNIVERSAL, will be releasing for the first time THE ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK RECORDING to JAWS sometime this year.

    So it appears that by the end of the year we'll have THREE DIFFERENT CD's of JAWS available.

    The Question is which label will get theirs out first, VARESE or DECCA.


    Ford A. Thaxton


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    posted 01-23-2000 10:11 AM PT (US)     

     Shaun Rutherford
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    Another question is "Which one will sell?"

    The answer is "Decca".

    GOD BLESS DECCA RECORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Shaun

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    posted 01-23-2000 10:15 AM PT (US)     

     Wedge
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    "Heaven ... I'm in Heaven ..."

    Of course, in retrospect it's a shame. Had Varese known, perhaps they could have put their energy into recording something WITHOUT a complete release ... like TEMPLE OF DOOM! MAN, we need that score expanded! We need it SO BAD!

    Of course, let's look at the trend: Varese rerecords Superman, someone else releases the complete original tracks. Varese rerecords Jaws, someone else releases the complete original tracks. I like this trend :-D

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    posted 01-23-2000 11:02 AM PT (US)     

     Kevin
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    This is great news. It almost comes at a time when I've heard other news about Jaws.

    Seems that on the Laserdisc version there was supposed to be a score-only track, but the work could not be completed in time to Williams' satisfaction (or something to that effect).

    Now, I've heard rumors that the upcoming (when I don't know) DVD of Jaws will have a score-only track.

    Heaven!

    Kevin

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    posted 01-23-2000 01:42 PM PT (US)     

     JEC
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    This is too good to be true. The original tracks of SUPERMAN in less than a month, followed (possibly) by the original tracks to JAWS!?

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    posted 01-23-2000 01:56 PM PT (US)     

     Nicolai P. Zwar
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    Well, most likely I will be one of those who gets both releases in this case. The Varese McNeely recordings have all been good, some have even been outstanding. So far, I don't own the CD release for "Jaws" (I do have the original LP, and on the CD are the exact same cues, it's even the same mix, so I never bothered to pick up the CD version.) Varese deserves some credit for what they're doing.

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    posted 01-23-2000 02:07 PM PT (US)     

     RBbehemoth
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    According to the johnwilliams.com site, Decca is releasing it INSTEAD of varese, who originally planned to release it:

    The expanded Jaws re-recording previously announced as a Varèse Sarabande release is now part of the Decca catalogue. Sources from the label report that they're creating 'a collector's edition, featuring an extra 30 minutes of music never previously released (the original album was only 35 minutes), with special packaging, interviews, photographs and other memorabilia from the movie'.
    As already reported on this site last october, the album was recorded in Glasgow in early September with The Royal Scottish National Orchestra conducted by Joel McNeely for this year's 25th anniversary of the movie.

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    posted 01-23-2000 08:41 PM PT (US)     

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    Hey, Behemoth!
    Don't rain on our parade! We're excited for the ORIGINAL TRACKS, not the soon-to-be ridiculed Varese version! I don't WANT another rerecording!

    Shaun


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    posted 01-23-2000 09:45 PM PT (US)     

     Ford A. Thaxton
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    I must confess, the last thing I heard was that DECCA was going back to the origional soundtrack recording.

    I'd be VERY surprised that Spielberg or Williams would give their blessing and HELP in such a enterprise.

    Also, in DECCA's own Press release it makes NO MENTION AT THIS TIME of the RSO or the CD being a NEW RECORDING.

    The posting on the Williams website is odd indeed.

    Well, I won't be able to find out what's going on until Tomororw from any offical sources.

    When I do I'll post it.


    Regards

    Ford A. Thaxton

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    posted 01-23-2000 10:11 PM PT (US)     

     Ricard L. Befan
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    CONFIRMED: There will be TWO different recordings!
    I just received the following confirmation from Varèse:

    'Our recording of John Williams' JAWS, which does indeed feature Joel McNeely conducting the Royal Scottish National Orchestra, has no relation to any project planned by Decca. The McNeely/RSNO recording will be released on Varese Sarabande though no release date is yet set.

    Decca hasn't confirmed yet that they will be releasing the OST, but that's very likely to be the case.

    I've just corrected the report on my site. http://johnwilliams.com-us.com

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    posted 01-25-2000 10:23 AM PT (US)     

     JEC
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    Fantastic, if we're getting the original tracks. When JAWS was released in 1975, I saw it 17 times, just to listen to the music. The MCA recording shows you what you can do with a JC Penney cassette player and a high school orchestra.

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    posted 01-25-2000 06:48 PM PT (US)     

     Scott
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    Boo-oom...boo-oom...boom,boom,boom...

    Wow, wow, wow!

    Scott
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    posted 01-26-2000 08:03 AM PT (US)     

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    I went to Decca's website, and it is confirmed and it says right there...and this is cut from their website...


    The original soundtrack became a best-selling album in 1975 and now Decca is creating a collector's edition, featuring an extra 30 minutes of music never previously
    released (the original album was only 35 minutes). With special packaging, interviews, photographs and other memorabilia from the movie, this will be a unique souvenir of a classic, groundbreaking soundtrack and film.

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    posted 01-26-2000 08:20 AM PT (US)     

     Pete M
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    Yeah, but it's not such good news for Varese, though. They spend all this time and money re-recording the score so that we can have a full release, & then - wow, another label decides to release the original soundtrack. (Just like Superman). So now no-one is going to buy the Varese release, & they've lost a lot of money. So maybe now they can't afford or are more reluctant to re-record another classic score that is unavailable, or release a score CD of a current film. Which is again going to be a bad thing. Oh, dear.


    np Stargate

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    posted 01-26-2000 09:01 AM PT (US)     

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    Not to rain on anyone's parade. But Unfortunately *Original Soundtrack* does not necessarily mean *Original Tracks*, especially since the original soundtrack of Jaws was already an re-recording.

    We will just have to wait for more info. Though hopefully it will be what we want to hear.

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    posted 01-26-2000 09:04 AM PT (US)     

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    Well I for one plan on buying both versions, and I have an feeling others will too. Plus the fact that no one knows yet if it will actually be the original tracks or not is another plus for Varese. Anyway, Varese does not need to worry just yet.

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    posted 01-26-2000 09:09 AM PT (US)     

     Pete M
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    I'd love to be able to buy both, because both labels deserve support for what they're trying to do. Unfortunately, I really can't afford to do that, & I have a feeling that the OST may just win out - unless, of course the sound is not too great & the McNeely recording is terrific. But things don't look too great at the moment for the Varese album.


    np Stargate

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    posted 01-26-2000 09:56 AM PT (US)     

     Ricard L. Befan
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    What's NEW about that article, Ford?

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    posted 01-26-2000 02:25 PM PT (US)     

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    FROM SOUNDTRACKMAG.COM: "Soundtrackmag.com has confirmed that Decca Records will be releasing for the first time the original soundtrack recording for the 1975 film classic *Jaws*. This new release will feature over half an hour of never-before-released music from the film. No exact release date has been announced at this time."

    Hoffenlich, it'll include the "panic on the beach" music das gefelt Nicolai Zwar. I commend Varese & McNeely & that Scottish orchestra for their good intentions, but really now: who the hell gives a crap about their version? Give me Williams at the helm or give me nothing.

    On the other hand, Zubin Mehta's conduction of *Appalachian Spring* is far better than Aaron Copland's conduction. And George Szell's version of *The Rite of Spring* is superior to Stravinsky's conduction. So for all I know, McNeely might out-conduct Big John. (And I really don't care if "conduction" is an actual word or not.)

    Memo to JEC: You insulted the sound quality of the MCA soundtrack. Are you referring to the analog version or the CD transfer? I read somewhere that the digital version is a badly botched piece of crap. But I can vouch for the superb sound quality of the old vinyl MCA soundtrack. (Or maybe I'm just technically undemanding.)

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