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Ted Oscar® Winner	This is a good day for cult movie enthusiasts, for the master of campy horror, Sam Raimi (Darkman, Evil Dead Series) has appeared to be in the final stages of a contract, which could make him the director of Spiderman. The only reason I bring this up is because Danny Elfman seems to score a lot of his movies; in fact all of them since The Army of Darkness (theme only) and excluding For the Love of the Game. Is it possible that Danny Elfman will become the absolute king of the superhero scores? After all, with Spiderman, Darkman, X-men, and Batman ALL under his belt, well...that's really just spiffy. NP: Cinema Choral Classics vol. 1 (4 1/2 of 5)
posted 01-20-2000 09:17 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	Elfman will NOT be scoring X-Men. This comes from John Ottman himself. Hope you're not disappointed. I'm still trying to decide if I am............. but probably not. Jeron [This message has been edited by Jeron (edited 20 January 2000).]
posted 01-20-2000 10:24 PM PT (US)

SFT Oscar® Winner	Well, acording to Elfman himself, no one has asked him to score Spiderman yet, so.... SFT
posted 01-21-2000 12:31 AM PT (US)

Mark Hatfield Oscar® Winner	Given his working relationship with the composer on FOR LOVE OF THE GAME, I'm not sure that I wouldn't rather see Poledouris get another crack at superhero stuff. I intend no offense to the pro-Elfman camp: I own a good many scores by the man & enjoy his work. On this one, however, I would prefer something both bold & memorable to go with the iconographic nature of the project. Who do ya think should play Spidey?
posted 01-21-2000 12:49 AM PT (US)

Pete M Oscar® Winner	Personally, I'd love to see Elfman do Spiderman. It's been a long time since he wrote a Superhero style score, & his style has certainly changed quite a bit in the last few years. I'd really like to hear what the Elfman of today would make of it. np Sleepy Hollow ***/***
posted 01-21-2000 04:04 AM PT (US)

Andre Lux unregistered	The perfect choice for "Spiderman" is, of course, Joseph LoDuca, Rami constant collaborator who scored all his movies and TV shows, except "Darkman", "A Simple Plan", "The Quick and the Dead" and "For the Love of the Game", because none of these were personal projects and maybe he was forced by the studios to hire other composers than LoDuca. Anyway, it's great to see Raimi working again!
posted 01-21-2000 04:32 AM PT (US)

James Oscar® Winner	Just for the record, Darkman is not a superhero movie. It's most definitely an anti-hero drama. I'm not really sure who should score Spiderman. It all depends, I suppose, on the direction they want to take the movie. If they go for a darker, moodier movie (a la Batman), they will need a darker, moodier score (a la Batman). If they go for a more uplifting movie they will need a more uplifting score. I don't know, I just don't know... James NP - Warriors of Virtue (*****)
posted 01-21-2000 09:14 AM PT (US)

spango Oscar® Winner	If it´s true that Raimi always wants to hire LoDuca why did Elfman compose the main title for ARMY OF DARKNESS. BTW I really don´t like LoDuca´s work very much (HERCLES, XENA).
posted 01-21-2000 03:36 PM PT (US)

Andre Lux unregistered	"Xena" kick ass, literaly!! LoDuca is a very good composer. I can't tell why Raimi called Elfman to composed that 3 minutes cue called "March of the Dead", which was nothing more than the "Darkman" theme with little variations and complete out of place in my opinion - I am always forced to skip that cue when I hear "Army of Darkness" gorgeous score! Maybe Raimi owns Elfman some money? Who knows? More from LoDuca, please!
posted 01-21-2000 05:33 PM PT (US)

Ted Oscar® Winner	Whoa! March of the dead was awesome. I got shivers down my spine when I saw it in the movie (don't own the score.)
posted 01-21-2000 05:45 PM PT (US)

SFT Oscar® Winner	"March of the Dead" is awesome! Not one of Elfman´s best cues, but it´s still great and it blends perfectly with the overall tone of the film. Andre, you are right, it is similar to Darkman in orchestration, but as far as the theme goes, you must be hearing things. I find it strange, that you could like LoDuca´s AOD and not any of Elfman´s scores in that genre, Andre. But hey, if you have something personally against Elfman, thats okay with me. I´m just a happy little 16 year old kid. What do I know anyway? SFT NP: The Twillight Zone, Bernard Herrmann (Varese re-recording)
posted 01-22-2000 01:46 AM PT (US)

SFT Oscar® Winner	On a second note: What I find so great about LoDuca´s "Army of Darkness" is, that like the film itself, it is a mixture of alot of elements of the horror/fantasy genre. LuDuca perfectly made the film seem "classic" by his totally "unoriginal" score. He "stole" as much as he possibly could from the likes of Herrmann, Elfman and Poledouris and the result was amazing. Just listen to "Prologue". Straight out of Herrmann´s "Cape Fear"! Nice hommage. Anyone agree? SFT
posted 01-22-2000 02:06 AM PT (US)

Andre Lux unregistered	hehehehehehehe.... this guy's funny!! N.P.: "March of the Deads" - FUN-FA-FUN-FA...FÓ-RÓ-RÓ-ROMMMM...FUN-FA-FUN-FA...FÓ-RÓ-RÓMMMMMM (for 3 minutes) [This message has been edited by Andre Lux (edited 22 January 2000).]
posted 01-22-2000 12:55 PM PT (US)

Swashbuckler Oscar® Winner	I wouldn't mind seeing Basil Poledouris attack another action score (I'm always waiting for another "Conan the Barbarian..." "Starship Troopers" was good, it was very good, but it wasn't in the same league), but I'll tell you the truth, I wouldn't mind if any of the people mentioned (Elfman, LoDuca, etc.) scored this film. How about Lee Holdridge (it would never happen, but think about what a great score it would be!)?
posted 01-22-2000 01:04 PM PT (US)

SFT Oscar® Winner	Ah well, the Elfman-hater shows his true face once again. I hope you are enjoying yourself. SFT
posted 01-22-2000 02:39 PM PT (US)

Timmer Oscar® Winner	How about John Williams? This would actually be casting against type....You just couldn't put a Superman theme to a character like Spiderman!! William's is a versatile composer, I think it would be interesting?!
posted 01-22-2000 06:33 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	Danny Elfman's favorite movie of all time was/is EVIL DEAD II; thus, when ARMY OF DARKNESS came around, he basically insisted on doing something for it. I guess his schedule didn't permit his doing a whole score. And it's not like he won't do a "small" picture (though ARMY OF DARKNESS had a decent budget compared to the previous two EVIL DEADs) -- Elfman did the no-budget FREEWAY some time later, for example. I was told (I'm not sure how reliably, but it makes sense) that Joseph LoDuca quite resented Elfman's being on the picture at all.
posted 01-22-2000 09:04 PM PT (US)

SFT Oscar® Winner	May I mention that Elfman did "March of the Dead" for FREE? SFT
posted 01-23-2000 07:09 AM PT (US)

Andre Lux unregistered	It's perfeclty understandable why LoDuca ressented Elfman's presence on "Army of Darnkness". I would too, specially when the theme Elfman included was so out of place and detracted the picture. Hey, but don't be mad Elfmaniacos of the world. It's just my opinion. Good old Danny won't melt because of it!!
posted 01-23-2000 12:41 PM PT (US)

Widescreen Oscar® Winner	Raimi's a winderful choice to direct Spiderman, I think it could be a highly stark visual and funny film, depending upon it's elements. I've lately read the comments on Elfman scoring this and X-Men. Most of you are proposing a composer repeatedly do something which would essentially pigeonhole him. Just because he scored Batman and it was great doesn't make him the best choice to compose music for the film. It cetainly doesn't exclude him, but Elfman's done the superhero film, if you want to place genre sterotypes to that kind of film. But the idea you all have here is that you would have a composer only do something because of the old theory that "what's good for the goose is good for the gander." No, No, No, it isn't always. Enough with the Elfman crusades. Let's allow someone else to take the podium and bring forth a score we can enjoy listening to. If it turns out to be Elfman, I would personally reserve judgment until I hear it. But in the meantime, that one composer is not the one answer. It isn't our decision as to who will score the film, anyway.
posted 01-23-2000 07:52 PM PT (US)

Dr.Evil Oscar® Winner	Sure LoDuca is a perfect choice, some fresh music for a change. He proved several times his hability to compose for movies, even his funny Hercules (with Krull in it!) and the powerful Xena scores. About the Evid Dead issue, " March of the Dead " almost ruin the cd. Man, it's boring, why the same old motif?...
posted 01-25-2000 10:30 AM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	Well, I like Spidey. Spidey is my friend. He is not so much heroic as he is complicated. So a large sweeping fanfare laiden score would do no justice to him. The score has to have a good theme but toned down, not heroic, more complicated like the character himself. I should be too dark of a score though, since the Spiderman comics never portrait as much doom and gloom as the Batman comics and it shouldn't be the happy, cleas fascade of Superman. Kind of in the middle. Who would best score such a movie? You decide. I made mine up already. Scott NP:The MUMMY (***/***)Goldsmith...gooooood
posted 01-25-2000 12:01 PM PT (US)

robin4 Oscar® Winner	Well, in my opinion, they should get someone who is ambitious but fun and likes to use such instruments as the electric guitar (like in the cartoon). Therefore, the best choices would be Mark Mancina or Trevor Rabin (I would prefer the former). Joel McNeely could also be a good choice (I love his Soldier). Of course, I will also give a plug to my second fav and most underused composer, Alan Silvestri!
posted 01-25-2000 04:30 PM PT (US)

Andre Lux unregistered	Hei! Why not Stu Phillips who scored the "Spiderman" tv series?? Yeah, his scores are very good!!! Way to go Stu!
posted 01-25-2000 04:35 PM PT (US)

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