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Andre Lux
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Remembered another awfull ones like those from Elfman I mentioned above that once were at my collection:- Fattal Attraction (Jarre) - even his son could do better than that...
Irrrrgh!!
posted 01-20-2000 03:30 PM PT (US) 
Ron Pulliam

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It was a Graeme Revell score CD -- to the movie about the girls who were witches.Dreadful, dreadful stuff. Strangely, I enjoyed the movie and thought I'd like the score.
How wrong I was!
Ron
posted 01-20-2000 04:05 PM PT (US) 
spango

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BATMAN RETURNES and NIGHTBREED are two of my most beloved scores, at this point itīs not just a matter of taste but a matter of mental health.BTW RUDY one of Goldsmithīs most boring works (and he produces a lot of boring stuff)
I guess somebody already mentioned the sometimes incredible bad Zimmer. CRIMSON TIDE and RENAISSANCE MAN are really unbelievable bad.
all the best
-spangoposted 01-20-2000 04:10 PM PT (US) 
spango

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BATMAN RETURNES and NIGHTBREED are two of my most beloved scores, at this point itīs not just a matter of taste but a matter of mental health.BTW RUDY one of Goldsmithīs most boring works (and he produces a lot of boring stuff)
I guess somebody already mentioned the sometimes incredible bad Zimmer. CRIMSON TIDE and RENAISSANCE MAN are really unbelievable bad.
all the best
-spangoposted 01-20-2000 04:10 PM PT (US) 
Will

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The worst I bought is still Batman Forever. Another worth mentioning is Entrapment. The music worked for the movie but not really for a score release. Redeeming factors for Entrapment are those slow and sentimental themes (Tracks 3, 10, 18, 20). Others are just mainly noise. No offense to those who love this score.
posted 01-20-2000 04:20 PM PT (US) 
Andrew Drannon

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Granted, it's not exactly a film score, but the worst filmmusic CD I've ever heard is Neil Norman's Greatest Sci-Fi Hits IV. A collection of popular (and obscure) film/TV themes with most buried under arrays of rock guitars. The Star Trek Encounters track must make Goldsmith & Co. cringe. Luckily, though, I didn't buy it - it was sent as a review copy for my site. My review is at: http://scoresheet.tripod.com/Reviews/greatestscifi4.html
I actually think it's pretty hilarious, but you may find it dumb.Oh, and a close second is Batman Beyond.
And, finally, although it's nowhere near as bad as the two mentioned above, I have to take this moment to name my most hated Horner score: Willow. Don't get me wrong, I love Horner's work from this period, but by this time he was well on his way to the quiet mediocrity of the '90s. And it would have been a perfectly acceptable score - perhaps even great, it not for two factors: the Sakuhatchi and its incessant length. The main titles are ruined by this New Age-ish sounding instrument (it sounds like Yanni on a bad day! not that I listen to that though) , disrupting a fine theme. I guess I don't hate the score as much as I do the missed opportunity.
Please try not to take offense at this.

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posted 01-20-2000 04:38 PM PT (US) 
Mark Hatfield
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Greg;
NOW you've done it! I may have to ammend my own worst purchase to........
"Meco's IMPRESSIONS of An American Werewolf in London". (Bold is mine).
Lord, I had forgotten about THAT damned thing. What do you want? I wasn't yet 18, and I tended to give a shot to anything that had Motion Picture on the album jacket. I still cringe when I think about it. Was Meco a real name? Has anyone ever seen him; and if so, was he in the same room at the same time as James Horner? Just curious....
NP: THE FOG (Carpenter) 4.5/5*
posted 01-20-2000 04:52 PM PT (US) 
Andre Lux
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No way!! MECO MONARD rules!!!He was the equivalent of Hanz Zimmer in the old days, but with more talent and worst keyboards...

posted 01-20-2000 06:09 PM PT (US) 
Dr.Evil

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Meco Monardo is a legend and do exists, and no, he is not James Horny, ups, Horner.
I used to like his "impressions", and there is nothing wrong with that, worst is COMPOSE
MUSIC IN THAT STYLE AND CALL A SOUNDTRACK, as they did in LADYHAWKE, another fine exaple of worst score I ever purchased!
posted 01-20-2000 06:16 PM PT (US) 
Andre Lux
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Urghs! "Ladyhawke" is awful indeed. Sounds like a bad score for a porno flick ...
posted 01-20-2000 06:24 PM PT (US) 
Wedge

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Andrew: If you want to hate "Willow" even MORE, go listen to Schumann's 4th Symphony and see where he got the theme.
(Okay, I admit it ... I *still* enjoy "Willow" despite this.)Matt: I'm sorry I so deeply offended you by personally denouncing "Glory." I can assure you I am a serious lover of Film Music, with varied and mature tastes. But I'd hate to think one is prevented from having an opinion on this board. It's not like I'm trying to cram it down your throats. Sorry.
posted 01-20-2000 09:12 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Back when I knew so little I would buy anything:DEAD HEAT (Ernest Troost, Varese LP -- nice cover, even some liner notes, made it look like there might be something interesting in there -- joke was on me)
JULIA & JULIA (Maurice Jarre, Varese LP, one of his endless electronic-drool scores)
APOLOGY (Maurice Jarre, Varese LP, ditto)
DREAMSCAPE (Maurice Jarre, Sonic Atmospheres LP, ditto -- why did I keep buying Jarre? Because in one single year, 1985, he came out with a whole BUNDLE of wonderful scores of all types: WITNESS, MAD MAX BEYOND THUNDERDOME, THE BRIDE and, my favorite, the sensational ENEMY MINE. Followed the next year by the very nice TAI-PAN. This proved to be an anomalous period for Mr. Jarre, I'm afraid.)
TO GILLIAN ON HER 37TH BIRTHDAY (James Horner, one of his endless electro-symphonic drool scores)
THE SPITFIRE GRILL (James Horner, ditto)
... but those latter two (CD purchases) were bought on the cheap. I knew I was rolling the dice, but not for so much money. I NEVER buy anything for full price anymore unless (A) I'm pretty sure what it's going to sound like or (B) it's by one of my tiny handful of MUST-BUY composers. (Goldsmith, Williams, Ifukube, Christopher Young, Carter Burwell, Masaru Sato -- that's about it. And in the latter two cases, I'm often willing to wait until I feel more flush than I usually do.)
posted 01-20-2000 09:32 PM PT (US) 
Rang
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TORN CURTAIN
Bernard Herrmann
* I'm a BIG Herrmann fan, but I can't stand
this score.
posted 01-20-2000 09:52 PM PT (US) 
Rang
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Didn't realize there was a Pg. 2 - sorry.[This message has been edited by Rang (edited 20 January 2000).]
posted 01-20-2000 09:54 PM PT (US) 
Rang
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Sorry again.[This message has been edited by Rang (edited 20 January 2000).]
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posted 01-20-2000 09:59 PM PT (US) 
Aaron Hose

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NORTH.- A.
posted 01-20-2000 10:20 PM PT (US) 
DjC

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The John Beal Trailer Project is the worst 2CD set in the history of 2CD sets, John Beal even e-mailed me many times, because i posted a bad review of his crap on AMAZON.COM, he said that everyone else says it is a masterpiece, well John, no, the trailer project is pure 100% grade A raw FILTh! I am sorry that John can't take a bad review, oh yea, i remember, he was mad because i told him that i have a better imagination, and i could do better than that, and that i was 15 (at the time) -that was funny because he was pissed at me,,,good stuff, ADIOS!!
posted 01-20-2000 10:38 PM PT (US) 
DjC

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The worst is JOHN BEAL'S TRAILER PROJECT, what a load of 100% filth, John e-mailed me because i posted a bad review on amazon.com ob his trailer crap, so he e-mailed me saying that everyone else likes it, well, the project bombs 499%, he got angry because in the review, i said that i am 15, and i am more creative...i am not 15 now, but at the time i was, the whole thing with john was funny, i would e-mail him, he would get mad and e-mail me etc. etc. we finnaly opoligised to each other, but that 2CD set still sucks a lot of ARSE! ADIOS MI AMIGOS!! IEEE!{NP-Enigma,Gravity of love...good stuff}
posted 01-20-2000 10:43 PM PT (US) 
Matthew

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I'd have to say THE NET and BLADE by Mark Isham.they both just do absolutely nothing for me.Most of Isham's scores are awful in my opinion.All he does is use some synthesized noises and loud bursts of brass and percussion over and over with no variations.They work fine in the context of the film but do not translate well onto cd.Although I do somewhat enjoy his score to the film THE GETAWAY.For some reason I think that the orchestral crashes and synth backing works great in that film.And I also can almost enjoy his score to TIMECOP,but as in most of his scores they have nothing going on in them and he always wastes his chance to write some decent music.
posted 01-20-2000 11:08 PM PT (US) 
Cole

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Wedge,
Schumanns' 4th!!!
hah, I love it.
Iam glad someone is here to find these type of things other than me!
posted 01-20-2000 11:54 PM PT (US) 
Wedge

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Cole: I have a whole slew of Horner-steals I'm ready to blow the lid on.THE PAGEMASTER -- Several tracks towards the beginning ripped from "The Sorcerer's Apprentice"
GLORY -- Opening from "Ivan the Terrible." "Charging Fort Wagner" is a hashed-up "O Fortuna" from "Carmina Burana."
LAND BEFORE TIME -- Several passages, especially the big action-finale, are taken from "Peter and the Wolf."
THE MASK OF ZORRO -- Ostinado from the mine sequence is directly from "Mars." Theme pulled from some old WB fanfare.
An' thass just the tip of the iceberg.

posted 01-21-2000 09:48 AM PT (US) 
SPOR

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Schindler's List
posted 01-21-2000 06:51 PM PT (US) 
dantoris

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I now wish I hadn't spent money on "Tomorrow Never Dies" and "Men In Black" (simply because of Elfman's name). They both now sit in my brother's collection. And "The Saint." It's great in the film, but only 1 or 2 tracks sound good away from it.
posted 01-21-2000 09:58 PM PT (US) 
Jasom

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I would have to say Rosewood by John Williams. The movie never came to my town and I liked the music that was in the trailer and was hoping it was on the cd. It wasn't.
It is the only cd that I have returned the very same day I bought it. The music store gave me a full refund even though the cd was opened, which I was happy about.
another terrible score would have to be James Horner's American Tail 2. This cd sucked compared to the first one.
Jasom[This message has been edited by Jasom (edited 22 January 2000).]
posted 01-22-2000 01:15 AM PT (US) 
Alwin

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As much as it pains me, I think I will also have to add Drop Zone and Sleepy Hollow to the mix. Not because Sleepy Hollow is bad per se, but because its an extremely difficult listening experience, IMHO.NP: Broken Arrow
posted 01-23-2000 12:45 PM PT (US) 
Pete M

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What's wrong with Tomorrow Never Dies? And The Saint is one of Revells best scores, along with The Crow. At least, that's the way I see it.
And I just love Sleepy Hollow. It's a fantastic CD, hasn't been out of my player since I bought it.np Sleepy Hollow (surprise)
posted 01-24-2000 06:59 AM PT (US) 
Scott

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Okay,let's recap.
Rudy, Schindler's List, Spitfir Grill and Rosewood...ARE YOU ALL NUTS? THOSE ARE YOUR WORST SCORES? WHERE THE HECK AM I ON A NEW PLANET? HELP ME PLEASE, HELP ME!
Scott
NP: First Knight *****/*****
posted 01-24-2000 07:46 AM PT (US) 
Thor

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I want to add THUNDERHEART (Horner).
posted 01-24-2000 08:23 AM PT (US) 
Dave

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Lets see here..........Apt Pupil, The Saint, and Solider. I don't want to say that I hate them(hate is to easily thrown around and misused these days) but they hardly ever make it into my cd changer.Why so many people down on "PeaceMaker"?
dave
NP : Phantom Menace
posted 01-24-2000 03:59 PM PT (US) 
Dr.Evil

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After Schindler's List man, it's easy to know why everybody loves Raymond, ups, Elfman.
I start with filmmusic with John Williams, and for me Shindler's in one of the finest musis ever written.
Imagine seeying Batman in this thread! You guys problably will get mad!!
Ahah!!
P.S. Anyone noticed how Elfman's Good Will Hunting has a lot of Horner's Spitfire Grill?
posted 01-24-2000 04:16 PM PT (US) 
Lou Goldberg

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The worse thing I ever played money for was a thing called Trocadero Lemon Bleu, some horrible disco thing to a movie about skateboarding which I never saw. I still own it and every once in a while I pull it out to see if my opinion has changed but I can't get through two minutes of it without having to bend over the toilet.
posted 01-25-2000 03:35 AM PT (US) 
Thor

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posted 01-25-2000 03:57 AM PT (US) 
SBD
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I've got one for you: CRITTERS. I got it for three reasons:1) It was $3.99, back in the good ol' days when Intrada decided to consider its fans and trim the fat from its catalog (no offense to any Intrada honchos who read this
)2) I just love David Newman's music.
3) Roger Feigelson's liner notes touted how good it was.
Here's the truth: it had a couple of good moments, but it felt too influenced (THE SECRET OF N.I.M.H.), and the moments where the music proclaim, "I was composed by David Newman!", were few and far between. So what did I do. I sold it, and I never looked back.
posted 05-09-2000 06:05 AM PT (US) 
Bulldog
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Yes, John Beal's Trailer Music CDs suck ass.But the worst--well, most disappointing (**for me**) was that SUPERMAN collection from Varese last year I think.
A true missed opportunity for something much better arranged, orchestrated, performed.
posted 05-09-2000 09:59 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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Not a real score, but the Naxos compilation of John Williams themes by the "Philharmonic Rock Orchestra" (what a name!) and Richard Hayman is easily the most ridiculous CD in my collection.NP: Slavonic Dances (Antonin Dvorak; Berliner Philharmoniker/Lorin Maazel; the performers sound a bit bored)
posted 05-09-2000 02:19 PM PT (US) 
Richard

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WITNESS BY MAURICE JARRE.
IMHO, This is complete and utter trash. I don't think I'll ever buy anything by him again unless I've heard it first.

I bought the score for M.I.B.
It's not that it's terrible or anything, but I paid $9 for it, and I got $9 worth, not $24 worth. A bit too bland for my liking.posted 05-10-2000 02:33 AM PT (US) 
Chris

OscarŪ Nominee

Timmer: How can you not like CRIMSON TIDE? It's so powerful and entertaining.Maybe i'm getting old with my 20 years, but I just can't remember why I bought Scores like ROB ROY or SABRINA or MALICE.
DARKMAN is also not my best catch.posted 05-11-2000 06:37 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
