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    Topic:   Post Apocalyptic Themes

     Marc Flake
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    It occurs to methat there are several movies that have been made about mankind surviving some world-wde catastrophe (an apocolypse).

    Many of these movies hae has some excellent themes. My personal favorite being "The Omega Man."

    What I propose is that we, as a group, put together a track listing for a CD (or 2 CD set) for some enterprising record producer to put together using some of this great music.

    Track One: Omega Man Suite (6 minutes)

    Marc

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    posted 01-17-2000 11:32 AM PT (US)     

     Audacity
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    Definitely needs Track 2 "Escaping the Smokers" from Waterworld, some of the best action music written.

    Audacity

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    posted 01-17-2000 12:44 PM PT (US)     

     SplbrgWlms
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    I would put "Montage/Main Title" from Varese's release of THE ROAD WARRIOR.

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    posted 01-17-2000 12:51 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    We can't forget JNH's score for "The Postman." That's a great score with some great themes!!!

    Jeron

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    posted 01-17-2000 12:54 PM PT (US)     

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    The best driving music ever comes from this genre... that would be "The Road Warrior" by Brian May!

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    posted 01-17-2000 12:57 PM PT (US)     

     spango
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    talking about music to underline the apocalypse?
    how about Trevor Jonesī DARK CITY (the strangers are tuning) Patrick Doyleīs NEEDFUL THINGS (the devilīs here)

    donīt get me wrong, I do like Mr Newton Howard but THE POSTMAN hasīsome boring parts (though I like the main title)

    all the best
    spango

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    posted 01-17-2000 01:54 PM PT (US)     

     Sean Bires
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    "Akira" and "Nausicaa", both japanese films. Akira has an especially bizarre soundtrack. Japanese science fiction always tends to be apocalyptic.

    I'm also going to support Spango's "DARK CITY" choice. Yay, Dark City... I love that movie.

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    posted 01-17-2000 02:25 PM PT (US)     

     Dawk
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    I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Independence Day. Even though the movie was a big ol' steaming pile of ****, David Arnold did some wonderful things with the score, and I think that by itself, you don't even have to see the movie to know what the music is trying to illustrate (in fact, I prefer NOT to watch the movie at all ever). I think I agree with Dark City (I love that movie too, and the music is just incredible), but I don't know how much it would count as being "post apocolyptic".. Another movie I'm REALLY surprised nobody has mentioned is The Matrix. That's some damn fine music as far as Post-apocolyptic flicks go.

    -Dawk

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    posted 01-17-2000 04:31 PM PT (US)     

     James
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    The finale from Crash and Burn by Richard Band, but only if it was re-recorded. In it's original form it's just synthesized cheesiness, but if performed by a real orchestra it would be beautiful. Fat chance, huh?

    Another great one would be the end credits suite from Robot Wars by David Arkenstone. But again, only if it was re-recorded.

    James
    NP - Robot Wars suite (*****)

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    posted 01-17-2000 04:50 PM PT (US)     

     Matt
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    You silly people. No list is complete without The Terminator heading it up. I dont have the track listings on me, but the music while Sarah dreams of the future and sees a Terminator blast up a hideout(you know the one). Damn fine movie and score.
    Also, i love Dark City, but it isnt really post-apocalyptic, now is it?
    Matrix baby....

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    posted 01-17-2000 06:03 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    Goldsmith's LOGAN'S RUN is postapocalyptic, in its way: it begins with the super-cold "The Dome," opening with the threatening synthesizer chords, then moving into a cold rendition of the "City" theme on trumpet. The love theme then appears, equally cold, on "The Circuit"; as the film goes on and the characters reach the "End of the City," the music warms up, as our heroes discover they actually CAN live outside the Dome.

    Goldsmith's DAMNATION ALLEY, composed right after that, is even colder, for the most part, at least the bits of it I've heard. (In fact the amazing main title could well properly be called PRE-apocalyptic!)

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    posted 01-17-2000 07:11 PM PT (US)     

     Marc Flake
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    Let's not forget Planet of the Apes -- but tracks from which movies?

    The one I remember most is the percussive Gorilla Hunting Theme heard in the original, the one with the french horns.

    Marc
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    posted 01-17-2000 09:02 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    In the first movie, the theme for the astronauts discovering the scarecrows is properly thrilling -- and takes on an even more Apocalyptic tone when re-used for the finale of CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF THE APES ("Tonight -- we have seen -- the birth -- of the Planet of the Apes!" Cue music. I also liked it that the short end credits crawl itself comprises just of a slow fade-out sound of the screaming, victorious apes).

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    posted 01-17-2000 09:06 PM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    I vote "The Postman" all the way. Also "Waterworld"

    --Crono/Kyp

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    posted 01-17-2000 09:25 PM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    I'm gonna throw it out there--

    "The Launch" from ARMAGEDDON.
    Optimistic End-of-the-World music--gotta love it.

    (Of course, John Carpenter's ESCAPE FROM... films work as a sort of anarchic end-of-the-world series of themes.)


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    posted 01-17-2000 09:28 PM PT (US)     

     PeterD
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    Over at the FSM message board (which seems to be entering something of an apocalyptic phase itself right now), a number of us expressed admiration for John Douglas's opening title music for "Crack in the World."

    And if we're having trouble filling up the second CD, we could throw in a track of "Waltzing Matilda" from "On the Beach" . . .

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    posted 01-17-2000 10:50 PM PT (US)     

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    We would have to include a track from John Charles' "The Quiet Earth".

    Audacity

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    posted 01-18-2000 06:46 AM PT (US)     

     Marc Flake
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    OH! "The Quiet Earth."

    Is this CD still available somewhere? I had totally forgotten about this one. What are the best tracks?

    Marc
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    posted 01-18-2000 07:01 AM PT (US)     

     Thor
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    Definitely something from BLADE RUNNER - maybe the end titles?

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    posted 01-18-2000 09:10 AM PT (US)     

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    Marc,

    I haven't the cd in front of me, so I don't know the track names. I have been thinking about posting a review of "The Quiet Earth" though. Either way next time I have it with me I will let you know the best tracks. I was lucky enough to find my copy in a used store, I don't believe it is still available.

    Audacity

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    posted 01-18-2000 09:18 AM PT (US)     

     Norman McCay
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    To anyone out there who's a Japanese manga fan, do yourself a favor and pick up Fist of the North Star (NOT the anime). The story's set in a post-nuclear war setting. You would also do well reading it while listening to Mark Mancina's Con Air. I know, I know, the movie wasn't based in an Apocalyptic setting, but it really complements the single best story (referring to the Fist of the North Star story) ever told in the B&W medium!!

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    posted 01-18-2000 09:24 AM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    Are you familiar with PRINCE RIKI (aka RIKI-OH -- not sure if it's published over here or under what title -- by the same artist?

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    posted 01-18-2000 10:13 AM PT (US)     

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    Terminator 2 and Waterworld are on the top of my list with The Postman close behind.

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    posted 01-18-2000 03:38 PM PT (US)     

     Matt
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    Id agree with ya Thor, Blade Runner rules. But it isnt post apocalypse buddy..its just the future.

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    posted 01-18-2000 04:45 PM PT (US)     

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    Indeed... BLADE RUNNER is the future... and the future's RIGHT NOW...!

    Back to the topic... I would say:

    - THE ROAD WARRIOR (May)
    - PLANET OF THE APES (Jerry)
    - LOGAN'S RUN (Jerry)
    - THE TERMINATOR (Fiedel)
    - MAD MAX BEYOND THUNDERDOME (Jarre)
    - DAMNATION ALLEY (Jerry)
    - WATERWORLD (Howard)

    NP: The sound of my ventilator (it's damm hot here !!)

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    posted 01-18-2000 04:55 PM PT (US)     

     Thor
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    Matt:

    Hmmm. That depends on the way you see it. Judging from the constant rain and the way-too-bright sun caused by a atmospheric disorder of some sort, combined with the less-than-perfect maintenance of the city buildings, I'd definitely say something apocalyptic has happened, although luckily not to the extent as a MAD MAX or WATERWORLD.

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    posted 01-19-2000 10:08 AM PT (US)     

     Marc Flake
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    Okay. We seem to have exhausted this topic. Here's what we have for our Post-Apocalyptic 2-CD set.

    The Omega Man (Suite)
    Crack in the World (Main Theme)
    Crash and Burn (Main Theme)
    Robot Wars (Main Theme)
    Planet of the Apes (Suite)
    Logan's Run (Suite)
    Damnation Alley (Main Theme)
    Escape from NY (Suite)
    Escape from LA (Suite)
    Terminator (Suite)
    Terminator 2 (Suite)
    Waterworld (Suite)
    Postman (Suite)
    Mad Max Suite (incorporating music from all three movies)
    The Quiet Earth (Suite)
    "Waltzing Matilda" from "On the Beach"

    Yes, I left off "Dark City" and "Matrix." But hey, guys, these are what I call Cyber-Fiction (Cy-Fi, no, Cyber-Fi). A genre I consider to have been born with "Tron."

    I also left off Akira, Nausica, Prince Riki and Fist of the Northstar. Marketing decision. What can I say, I'm a suit. Perhaps we could have a "Best of" Anime/Manga CD.

    Regarding "Planet of the Apes." This would incorporate themes from all the movies -- might take up a whole CD by itself.

    So there's our track listing for Intrada, Silva Screen, Varese Sarabande, Erich Kunzell, Joel McNeely, et. al., to ponder on. I for one would snap this CD set up in a New York minute.

    Marc

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    posted 01-19-2000 12:37 PM PT (US)     

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    TWELVE MONKEYS (just the main title)

    the future is history
    well...spango

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    posted 01-19-2000 02:30 PM PT (US)     

     Thor
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    I STILL think you should add the end tites from BLADE RUNNER, Marc...

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    posted 01-20-2000 07:58 AM PT (US)     

     Marc Flake
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    LOVE the end titles to "Blade Runner." LOVE the movie "Blade Runner."

    As was said before, "Blade Runner" doesn't meet the criteria of "Post-Apolcalyptic." Neither does Independence Day. It fits into the "Dreary Future" category along with that Bruce Willis sci-fi flick I've burned out of my memory (No not "Twelve Monkeys," the other one)

    Granted, there are some tracks here from "Apocolyptic" movies -- but "Blade Runner" doesn't even qualify in that category. And I've qualified them because the music was used at the end of the movie, after (post) the apocalypse.

    Great movie, Great Score. Just doesn't belong. Of course, that's just my opinion.

    Anyone else?

    Marc

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    posted 01-20-2000 08:12 AM PT (US)     

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    Hmmm. Okay, Marc. I get your point (although I do not agree totally).

    I guess it all comes down to how you define apocalyptic. In my book, this term refers to something akin to "doomsday", "armageddon", "ragnarok" - a time when humans finally have reached the point of self-exploitation and thus destroy the environment of which they are dependent. But how does the apocalypse arrive - through nuclear weapons? intense global wars? alien invasions? Ozon layer breakdown? Melting of the ice caps? What?

    In my book, something is seriously screwed up with the weather in BLADE RUNNER. Yes, technology has prevailed and we have flying cars etc. But on the expense of what? Obviously the environment. The sun is too bright, the rain is too intense - and it fluctuates all the time. It's the apocalypse of the environment, and the time frame in which BLADE RUNNER is situatued, is definitely POST apocalyptic, as people have learned to accept the situation and made precautions thereafter.

    Oh, well. That's just my two cents.

    And I agree that ID4 is only apocalyptic, NOT post-apocalyptic....

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    posted 01-20-2000 09:11 AM PT (US)     

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    Apocalypse means mass death/destruction, chaos. Im not seeing that in Blade Runner with over-population, huge cities, and relative law and order. Life sucks..that doesnt mean its the end of the world.
    Thor, Blade Runner is in my opinion the best sci-fi film ever made, but in no way shape or form is it post-apocalyptic.
    Mark: I assume you were reffering to a certain movie about an Astroid? Not the 5th Element, right?

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    posted 01-20-2000 11:31 AM PT (US)     

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    My 3 favorites are:

    The Omega Man: Funkiest score I ever heard, can you dig it?
    Waterworld: Absolutely terrible movie, but a great score. First awesome James Newton Howard score I heard.
    Mad Max: Great for low budget, car crashing destruction. The theme was unique, too.

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    posted 01-20-2000 09:22 PM PT (US)     

     Thor
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    Matt: Once again - you say tomato, I say tomatoe. Let's not argue. Let's just say that "apocalyptic" is a vague word with a lot of interpretations. I guess you can call BLADE RUNNER non-post-apocalyptic or post-apocalyptic and get away with it either way. But ok - let's remove BLADE RUNNER from this thread....

    Best,

    TJ

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    posted 01-21-2000 10:48 AM PT (US)     

     Matt
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    Actually, Apocalyptic is a fairly specific term, and if anything Blade Runner would be pre-apocalyptic(as you said, the environment). But, hey..its a great movie, and this arguement is kinda pointless, so who cares right?

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    posted 01-21-2000 01:54 PM PT (US)     

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    Over at the FSM message board (which seems to be entering something of an apocalyptic phase itself right now), a number of us expressed admiration for John Douglas's opening title music for "Crack in the World."

    Yes, most definitely. I've always been a fan of both the movie (except for the soap opera moments) and the score. This is one film that's been neglected both on CD and video.

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