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SFT

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I know the subject of "favorite horror score" has been frequently explored here, but a lot of new people has joined since we last talked about it, so why not do it again? It will probably be fun
So? What is you favorite horror score?
I think the two obvious ones here are Bernard Herrmannīs PSYCHO and Jerry Goldsmithīs THE OMEN. Those two scores are simply brilliant and probably the most influencial of all time.
Other favorites of mine include NIGHT DIGGER, also by Herrmann, and NIGHTBREED by Danny Elfman.
SFT
posted 01-14-2000 02:34 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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Definitely The Omen as a favorite, but I love also Alien, Alien3, Damien, The Final Conflict, Silence of the Lambs, Mimic, Scream, Scream 2. Must be more, but I'll have to think a little first.
About The Omen, I listened to it a lot, & got to know it really well, to the point where I wasn't sure how scary it could be, so I sat in the middle of my room, in the dark, & listened to it. At first, I was quite okay, but by the end, I was huddled up on the chair, a quivering wreck, unable to look around. Now THAT's a great score.
np Scream/Scream 2posted 01-14-2000 04:25 AM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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The Oman is really great and works well with the film. Goldsmith crafted a masterpiece. I also ove the scores to "Scream and Scream 2."--Crono/Kyp
Writer/Director/Producerposted 01-14-2000 07:38 AM PT (US) 
SEBULBA

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Well, I also have to agree that the Omen is a great one (complete score), and Scream is fantatstic also. But let's not forget Hellraiser, Halloween H2O is good, I Know What You Did Last Summer, Lord Of Illusions (complete), Poltergeist, and of course Alien.Oh, and Show Girls, very scary.
posted 01-14-2000 07:50 AM PT (US) 
Scott

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PeterM,
you British get scared way too easy; that's why we won the independence war against you.On the subject,
I agree with everyone.Scott
BTW
racula and The Fury by Williams are masterpieces as well. posted 01-14-2000 10:39 AM PT (US) 
Marc Flake

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Right off the top of my head:"Bride of Frankenstein," with the muted coronets providing the "Monsters Fanfare," and the throbbing tympani accompanied by the swelling violins during "The Creation." Oooo, what a score.
And, thanks to Sebulba, I rediscovered "Prince of Darkness" earlier this week -- particularly the "Assembly of the Team" track as the heroes prepare all their hi-tech gear for a face-off with Satan. Cool.
Halloween 2 when Carpenter added the tympani to the already chilling theme for Michael Myers (You think Carpenter knew about Austin Powers when he invented this character?).
Was "Jaws" a horror movie? If so, add that one in, and make it number one.
Marc
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posted 01-14-2000 10:56 AM PT (US) 
Scott

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Marc,
we finally agree! See, I knew we had something in common. How could I have forgotten Jaws. Yes, whatever Marc says when it comes to Jaws. Do it baby.Scott
PS Marc, there is hope for you afterall
(I will get into the habit of using smilys when I'm joking)posted 01-14-2000 02:43 PM PT (US) 
robin4

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My votes go to:The Omen
Bram Stoker's Dracula (if that is horror)
House on Haunted Hill
The Hauntingjust to name a few
posted 01-14-2000 04:08 PM PT (US) 
Marc Flake

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Scott:No worries, mate
NP: Crocidile Dundee
posted 01-14-2000 06:33 PM PT (US) 
Dr.Evil

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Wait a minute: No Poltergeist here??? Even Goldsmith's The Haunting is a good example.
And for me, Close Encounters had some terrifying moments too!!
posted 01-15-2000 07:21 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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Actually, Scott, I don't scare very easily. Have you ever tried listening to the thing in the dark?
Anyway, got to add about most of the old Hammer score by James Bernard & co. Fantastic stuff, love it.
posted 01-17-2000 07:19 AM PT (US) 
Swashbuckler

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I thought "The Haunting" was scored by Humphrey Searle.
posted 01-17-2000 12:30 PM PT (US) 
spango

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NOSFERATU Hans Erdmann
NIGHT MOODS Franz Waxman
FRANKENSTEIN Patrick Doyle
and of course THE FRIGHTENERS by Elfman (terribly underrated film and score we should look forward to THE LORD OF THE RINGS with the exceptional talents of Kilar and Jackson)be warned!!!!
by the almost friendly spangoposted 01-17-2000 02:00 PM PT (US) 
Cole

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HELLO ? I cant believe you guys are forgetting the scariest score ever.
Just hearing the first few bars of the English Patient makes me want to run and hide
posted 01-17-2000 02:24 PM PT (US) 
Matt

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Cole:
couldnt agree more.
Jaws
Bram Stoker's Dracula(yes, its horror, its about a damn Vampire for god's sake).
Omen
Silence of the LambsAs for Psycho: SUCKS!! God, Hitchcock was a hack...never did a good movie in his life. I mean...North By Northwest?? terrible terrible film. And the score for Psycho-just not memorable.

And yes, that was a joke.
posted 01-17-2000 06:13 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Goldsmith's little-known THE REINCARNATION OF PETER PROUD is absolutely the creepiest thing I've ever heard. Parts of his THE MEPHISTO WALTZ rank along with it. And bits of THE OMEN that aren't on the album (the electronic rottweiler ostinato, My God!) bother me just thinking about them."Leviathan" from Christopher Young's HELLBOUND is astonishing.
The hideous gnarled brass from Ifukube's WAR OF THE GARGANTUAS knocks me out to this day.
Ah yes, the main title as heard in the final version of ALIEN. As badly treated as Goldsmith's score was on that movie, I think the producers were right in that case -- the creepy opening was better than the melodic one. And on the same movie, the use of the cue from FREUD (for Tom Skerritt hunting the alien in the tunnels) really does hit the mark.
The same cue is also tremendous in the scene in FREUD it was originally written for: David McCallum under hypnosis, remembering something truly TERRIBLE ...
posted 01-17-2000 06:46 PM PT (US) 
Greg Bryant

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Actually, the score that's the most horrific would be Saturday Night Fever. Makes me run screaming from the room any time I hear the Bee Gees.
posted 01-17-2000 07:53 PM PT (US) 
spango

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TITANTIC while the music runs my life fades away...the human body cannot stand everything...
still alive because of the existence of the friendly STOP button
-spango
posted 01-18-2000 01:41 AM PT (US) 
sabbey

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Hi all,I am not usually into Horror films, hey ever since I saw Nightmare on Elm Street, If I even just thought about it, it'd give me some strange out dreams. Enough so, were I'd only be able to get to sleep, if I hum the opening bars from The Transformers cartoon.

Any ways, I never really like those types of films, not to mention their particular
scores. However I have lightened up a bit in the last couple of years, especially when
it comes to the scores. My top list of favorite Horror scores would be.The Omen
Alien - I guess this is more sci-fi, but it sure scared the hell out of me when I first saw
it.
House on Haunted Hill
The Haunting
Leviathan
Needful Things
Portrait of Terror (Halloween: H20)
Psycho
The Relic
Scream / Scream 2
PoltergeistI am sure there are others, but those are the main ones I can think of at this moment. And some of those are less (Horror) than others, but to me they are.

Sean Robert Abbey
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posted 01-18-2000 02:13 AM PT (US) 
Mark Hatfield
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Just right off the top:
JAWS
POLTERGEIST
THE KEEP
THE OMEN & FINAL CONFLICT
THE FOG
PRINCE OF DARKNESS
QUATERMASS & THE PIT
THE THING (1982)
PHANTASM
THE EXORCIST
THE FLY (1986)
HELLRAISER & HELLBOUND: HELLRAISER II
BLACK SUNDAY
CAT PEOPLE (1982)
THE BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN
....like many of you, I could go on & on (probably already did!). When done well, this is without question my favorite genre & probably the thing that started my obsession with film music. I LOVED the old Universal "monster" movies that used to show in L.A. on the weekends....I think the host's name was "Famous Seymour" or something like that. I mean, there was NO mistaking (musically) when Lon Jr. needed a shave.......great stuff. When I was little, my friends and I would go out into the backyard to reenact scenes from the Universal & Hammer horror movies. I was almost always humming whatever the particular monster's "theme music" was, while I was running around! Total dork; but a good memory. An adjunct to this thread: What was the first horror movie music that you NOTICED? For me it would be THE BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN. Anyone?
posted 01-18-2000 07:00 AM PT (US) 
Audacity

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Flatliners
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Urban Legend
Sixth Sense
The Omen
Lord of IllusionsI think Bram Stoker's Dracula is maybe not the scariest score, but definitely the most haunting. What I mean by that is, Kilar writes entire themes that have such a wonderfully haunting sound, instead of just dropping in blaring trumpets here and there to try to scare the audience.
Audacity
NP End of Days (Not really scary but definitely intense)
posted 01-18-2000 07:01 AM PT (US) 
Marc Flake

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Mark:"Bride of Frankenstein" for me, too. As I noted earlier, the throbbing beat of the tympani, the swelling crescendoes of the strings . . .
Marc
NP: The Searchersposted 01-18-2000 07:05 AM PT (US) 
Mark Hatfield
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Hi, Marc!
I'm still new here. Reviewing these threads has revealed that I have not been using the "NP"! To the Comfy Chair with me, I guess.
I threw that out just to see if folks could really remember the first time that they noticed film music -- WAY cool that yours was BOF. What a great score. Really evocative, and like so many of the great ones, instantly recognizable.
Oh, by the way.....spelling it with a "K" is the really COOL way.
Any others out there -- preferably horror stuff?
And.....NP: Logan's Run (Goldsmith)
posted 01-18-2000 09:07 AM PT (US) 
sabbey

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Well for me the first Horror score I noticed was, The Relic. Well It was the first, once hearing it I just had to have it. Does that count?And while I am here let me add the following to my list,
Jaws
The Sixth Sense
Mimic
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posted 01-18-2000 09:11 AM PT (US) 
Mark Hatfield
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Sean;
Of course it counts! By the way.....is the score good? I saw the movie but (gasp!) don't really remember the music. Debney, isn't it?
Nice to see you over here.
posted 01-18-2000 01:25 PM PT (US) 
James

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Those who know me very well know what my responses will be like...THE ALCHEMIST
CASTLE FREAK
FROM BEYOND
THE HOUSE ON SORORITY ROW
MUTANT
THE PIT AND THE PENDULUM
THE RESURRECTEDRichard Band is the master of the horror score.
James
NP - From Beyond (Band)posted 01-18-2000 02:23 PM PT (US) 
Matt

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Damn Spango, now i have to take some time from my busy day, hunt you down and kill you. Damn!! I dont have time for this **** people! Stop pissing me off! Do you know how much homework i have?
I was only semi serious...i wont kill you spango...maybe just take a little off the knee-caps with my hatchet
posted 01-18-2000 04:51 PM PT (US) 
sabbey

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Thanks Mark,Personally I think the score to The Relic is great, than again I think the movie is great as well.

Do you like John Debney's other scores? if you do, than I suggest getting an copy of The Relic. Either that or watch the movie again, that is if you can bear it.

Anyone else like this score?
Sean Robert Abbey
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posted 01-18-2000 06:54 PM PT (US) 
Audacity

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I like the score to the Relic a lot.
posted 01-19-2000 05:54 AM PT (US) 
Mark Hatfield
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Sean;
I never really hated the movie of THE RELIC. For me, it was another case of "...but the book was so great!". On your recommendation, I am pressing ahead & ordering up a copy right now.
I think my attraction to horror scores is probably due to all the bombast/sturm und drang -- which also probably signals that I have an unsophisticated palate, musically.
I have a great recent purchase for today's NP update!
NP: THE KEEP (Tangerine Dream)
Great, atmospheric stuff. I have looked for this thing forever....sort of a Grail Quest for about the last decade.
Sean -- did you see the damage over at the FSM board? Looks like DANIEL2 is on the warpath.
posted 01-19-2000 10:17 AM PT (US) 
sabbey

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Hi Mark, Do you mean ordering The Relic score or movie? If you mean the score, it is only available as an promo. You should be able to get an CDR of it though.
Personally I know the movie is not all that great, though I liked it. Have you ever seen Deep Rising? another of those, it's good, because it is so bad films.
And yes, I did see the FSM board. sheesh, You leave for an day and all hell breaks loose.

Sean Robert Abbey
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posted 01-20-2000 04:34 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Mark Hatfield,I'm with you on the novel RELIC -- WAAAY better than the movie. It's probably just as well I saw the movie first -- I was able to appreciate what was entertaining about it without being offended at how much of the novel got thrown away.
The irony is, the book is ALREADY highly cinematic, obviously designed for a big-budget movie sale. It's a better movie than the final movie is!
If you're not familiar with its sequel RELIQUARY, you owe it to yourself to hunt it down. It's every bit as good as the first one. Really, it's more of a "continuation" than a sequel, since you can tell from the finale of RELIC that they were setting us up for more.
posted 01-20-2000 01:16 PM PT (US) 
Matt

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Anything by Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child is worth the purchase, Mount Dragon, Thunderhead, etc.
H Rocco: couldnt have said it better...book was a better movie, hehe.
posted 01-20-2000 01:54 PM PT (US) 
Mark Hatfield
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Hello, H Rocco!
Can't tell you how glad I am to see you over here. My first post here a couple of days ago mentioned you.....you really are "da bomb" on the movie/music knowledge frontier. Yeah, I got RELIQUARY in hardback practically the second it was published. Couldn't agree with you more -- written with a visual sense that the film did not have. I am pretty sure that I know what goes wrong on these things (particularly Stephen King, whom I adore):
In anything approaching a medium-sized Major Studio production budget, the temptation is overwhelming to substitute FX for the novel's quieter moments. As a great deal of the best writing in the genre is CHARACTER driven, scribes-for-hire & the producers tied to the film's eventual profitability tend to merge characters and events at the sacrifice of character arc and plausability. I get the terrible feeling sometimes that there are a bunch of "suits" with stopwatches involved in the editing process. If a horror or sci-fi film goes 5 straight minutes without an EVENT, it's time for the rubber monster/prothestic device/digitally-created goober to come back out. (sigh). All of this, of course, marginalizes the folks who care about the deeper issues AND WHO MAY ACTUALLY EXPECT THE DURN THING TO BE MORE THAN FX SEQUENCES. I have always loved the genre, and treasure the few films that are released sans suit-interference; they are just getting fewer & further between. Love it or hate it, every time a film of genuine vision such as DARK CITY tanks, it reinforces the notion that modern audiences won't support a movie that does not visually thrill every 2.2 minutes (which, by the way, DARK CITY did). Don't even get me started on those two "auteurs" that ruined GODZILLA! I hope that enterprises like Artisan Films stay financially afloat forever -- they are at least releasing something different.
Another adjunct to this thread:
What horror novel would you most like to see made as a film; and who would you have scoring it? No "rules", per se; the novel in question may have already been adapted before. I'll start the ball rolling.....THE KEEP, by F. Paul Wilson. A marvelous book, with an ambitious (yet deeply flawed & truncated) adaptation from Michael Mann. I would love to see Alex Proyas (THE CROW, DARK CITY) have a go at it. I think that the themes and rumination about the nature of evil might solicit more great work from him. While I ADORE Tangerine Dream's score -- I finally own it, after 10 years' search -- I might want Goldsmith (maybe chorale-driven, like THE FINAL CONFLICT) or Poledouris (in full tympany-horns bombast mode) to set the aural environment.
Any takers on this one?NP: PRINCE OF DARKNESS (Carpenter) 5/5*
posted 01-20-2000 02:52 PM PT (US) 
Mark Hatfield
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One more thing, and I'll shut up (off?) for a few minutes:
H Rocco, do you remember that thread over at the FSM site a while back that dealt with made-for-TV genre movies? I do -- LOL about your DEVIL DOG reply. Why is it that there are not more made-for-CABLE horror efforts? Oh, I know about USA Films & the like....I mean HBO/SHOWTIME/CINEMAX. Can't you just imagine an 8-hour, "limited series" event pic of something like King's THE STAND? With less network/studio censor interference & more time to "tell the tale", it could be great.
Not that DEVIL DOG wasn't......
Still NP: PRINCE OF DARKNESS (still Carpenter, still 5/5*'s--not as spare as some of his scoring & effective chorale moments. Highly recommended, if you don't hate electronic scoring).
posted 01-20-2000 03:04 PM PT (US) 
DjC

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The best horror score and soundtrack is RAVENOUS, it is completely different, and totoally eerie. I absoulutely love this soundtrack, it kicks my spine every time i listen to it, oh yea, and bram stoker's dracula, and holloween 2...ADIOS
posted 01-20-2000 06:12 PM PT (US) 
Ted

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My favorite has to be the Army of Darkness (one of the finest cult movies on the planet), just for the main theme by Danny Elfman. It blew me away when I first heard it.It was a macho theme for the ultimate badass movie ever.
posted 01-20-2000 09:10 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Mark Hatfield! Hiya buddy. I've already replied to you elsewhere around here, if I remember right.Sure I remember the DEVIL DOG thread -- was it you I managed to crack up by observing that it was so obviously a pilot for a TV series -- Richard Crenna hunting down a different Devil's Puppy week after week ... Like THE FUGITIVE in reverse, with fur ...
I'd be curious to see a film version of King's INSOMNIA. Not least because that's one of his most intransigent, overwritten novels -- but once the story kicks in, it suddenly becomes fascinating. I'm sure there's the germ of a nice little hundred-minute picture in there. (In fact, I'd like to make it, though it's not #1 on my present Stuff To Do list.) I'd like to hear a cross between Christopher Young at his most bludgeoning, and Jerry Goldsmith at his most melodic (for the final sequence on the roadway -- something like "Everywhere" from POWDER).
I've read tons of Graham Masterton's stuff. He's a bit of a guilty pleasure, because so much of his work feels like it was hacked out over a weekend, but when he's ON, he's REALLY ON. I'd like to see a DECENT version of his first horror novel THE MANITOU, and the two sequels have things to recommend them to the big screen, as well (though with the market the way it is today, one would count oneself lucky with a well-advertised direct-to-video release).
William Peter Blatty has given interviews to the effect that Morgan Creek (which produced EXORCIST III) is variously considering a TV miniseries remake of THE EXORCIST (for the Fox network), and a big-screen prequel to the same property (Max Von Sydow has already expressed interest in reprising his old Father Merrin role). I adore William Peter Blatty's work (he is a VASTLY underrated director as well as a great writer), and would be happy to see either project, or both, as long as he was involved. I couldn't tell you who should score such projects, though.
I understand Mick Garris is making a miniseries of DESPERATION, and that Spielberg is finally seeing to a miniseries of THE TALISMAN. Who should score these, I honest-to-God haven't a clue. W.G. Snuffy Walden is practically the LAST person I'd have chosen for THE STAND, but it turned out very well, I thought.
posted 01-20-2000 09:19 PM PT (US) 
Wedge

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No question in my mind: Goldsmith OWNS this genre. "Damien: Omen II" is subtitled "A Black Mass" for a REASON! Brrrr! Here's the ultimate horror score test: how long can you stand to listen to it ... alone ... in the dark ... wearing headphones ...
posted 01-20-2000 09:21 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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On a couple of horror stories I've written over the years, I've scared MYSELF exactly TWICE: once listening to REINCARNATION OF PETER PROUD (tape of the old bootleg LP) -- this would be 1985 or so -- and the other time listening to ALIEN 3 (this would be late 1992).This'll sound strange, but I think OMEN II is more FUN than scary ... THE FINAL CONFLICT even more so. Of course, the same is true of the movies (they weren't even TRYING to scare us after the petrifying original. Remember that synthesizer ostinato for the satanic hound? Brrrrr -- and not on the album, as with two of the other great, short cues: the drive to the church and Billie Whitelaw's final confrontation with Lee Remick).
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