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Aaron Hose

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I recently saw The Seven Samurai for the first time on DVD. Boy, was it long. But it was worth it. The composition and camera motion, art direction, and the acting was nothing short of magnificent. What I really remember most vividly though, is the score. It was subtle when necessary, while picking up during the battle and more dramatic scenes. No wonder Kurosawa is considered one of cinema's greatest.So, is there anywhere I can get this recording? Does it even exist? Are there any other Kurosawa films you recommend and whose scores have been recorded as well?
Help.
- A.
posted 11-24-1999 01:25 PM PT (US) 
Buba Fett

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I don't know about any Kurosawa film scores, but I suggest you see as many of his films as you can. Yojimbo, Sanjuro, Rashomon, High and Low, Stray Dog, Hidden Fortress, Throne of Blood, Ikiru, etc....Start from his Rashomon Stray Dog years '49 and '50 I believe. This is where he really started to make his masterpieces. Although there is one before '48 which sounds interesting, one of his family dramas, can't remember the title, suggest looking for a web-site. I've come across a couple of good ones.P.S. How could I forget Ran and Kagemusha! Well I hope you don't!

posted 11-24-1999 07:26 PM PT (US) 
Sean Bires

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Just a quick bit of useless trivia I wanted to throw in... the two charactors, R2D2 and C-3PO were inspired by the main charactors of "The Hidden Fortress".
posted 11-24-1999 10:10 PM PT (US) 
Dan Brecher

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And another bit of cool trivia, A Bugs Life IS The 7 Samurai!Dan (UK)
posted 11-25-1999 04:29 AM PT (US) 
robin4

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The Magnificent Seven, one of the best westerns, was based on that.
posted 11-25-1999 11:21 AM PT (US) 
James

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"Battle Beyond the Stars" was also based on the 7 Samurai.Anyway, from what I can gather, The Seven Samurai score was released on the same CD as Rashomon by Varese, but it appears to be long out of print. Happy hunting!
James
posted 11-25-1999 07:52 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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It's difficult, at present, to get one's mitts on Kurosawa CDs. The man himself jealously guarded the music rights to his pictures (co-owned by his company and the releasing studio, Toho -- one could not move without the other's permission). The first-ever soundtrack release he approved was a 45 single for the theme to RED BEARD (1965), with the flip side being a (rerecording of) the dark cabaret theme from HIGH AND LOW (1963). (Both scores by the recently deceased Masaru Sato.)Nearly twenty years after the film was released, he allowed the main title from YOJIMBO (1961) to appear on a compilation LP called "The World of Masaru Sato" (one of a series of Worlds-of-Japanese-Composers that Toho Records put out during its brief heyday -- must've been at least a dozen of em).
Around 1984, there was a 10-LP set of Masaru Sato scores, one LP of which was devoted entirely to Kurosawa. That one sold out immediately, and I never could track it down.
And around 1980 or so, Victor Records was allowed to rerecord suites from RASHOMON (side one) and SEVEN SAMURAI (side two). Varese reissued this to the US market on both LP and CD -- but I DO NOT recommend this rerecording, it's just nowhere near what it should be. In many spots it barely sounds like the same music.
Kurosawa also authorized, around the same time, a "Drama LP" of SEVEN SAMURAI, which was mostly music against dialogue, but did have some cues with little dialogue or sound effects. This has never been reissued, as videotapes have made it irrelevant. (Kurosawa was also very touchy about letting his stuff come out on videotape.)
Finally in 1992, he buckled and allowed a five-CD box set to come out, covering all his films from the beginning (SANSHIRO SUGATA, 1942) to the next-to-last (RHAPSODY IN AUGUST, 1991). None of these scores are complete, but the SEVEN SAMURAI suite is a briskly arranged 20 or 30 minutes. It's not a long score to begin with; I didn't feel anything important got left out. Problem is, you'd have to find the entire box set to get it, and it's long out of print.
The box set also includes incomplete suites from various Masaru Sato scores for Kurosawa; these were expanded upon in a later 1993 series of Masaru Sato "Best of" CDs. One of these was an all-Kurosawa double CD. Between that and the box set version, one could probably assemble a complete YOJIMBO (among others).
YOJIMBO and its sequel SANJURO are terrific; of his film-noir pieces, most people point to HIGH AND LOW, but I way prefer THE BAD SLEEP WELL. And you can't go wrong with STRAY DOG (some of which was actually "ghost-directed" by Kurosawa's chief assistant director and future GODZILLA creator, Ishiro Honda).
posted 01-16-2000 03:07 PM PT (US) 
Chris Kinsinger

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Rocco. . .YOU DE MAN!
posted 01-16-2000 04:48 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Ayyyy, what'm I here for...
posted 01-16-2000 04:50 PM PT (US) 
Chris Kinsinger

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H Rocco's Mission From God!
posted 01-16-2000 05:04 PM PT (US) 
Marc Flake

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Have the Seven Samurai LP. Rocco's right.Marc
posted 01-16-2000 07:37 PM PT (US) 
Floyd Pepper

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Wasn't RAN also a Kurosawa-film?
I think a CD of that score is still available... (can't think of the composer, though)floyd.
posted 01-17-2000 04:05 AM PT (US) 
Swashbuckler

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"Ran" was indeed a Kurosawa film; the music was composed by Toru Takemitsu, and is available on a French Milan CD (those ugly "Film Music Collection" albums). Highly recommended blood and thunder score.
posted 01-17-2000 12:26 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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On the recent American CD of Toru Takemitsu's music, there is a perfectly serviceable suite -- virtually ALL the music, I think -- from his sparkling little score to Kurosawa's DODES'KADEN (1970).If you're looking for something in the style of SEVEN SAMURAI (by Fumio Hayasaka), however, you will be disappointed by the RAN score. Which is not to say you wouldn't LIKE the RAN score, but it's way more subdued. But it's probably the easiest to find, whether in Japanese, American or European issues.
Toru Takemitsu also scored RAN, his second of the two collaborations with Kurosawa. (After he broke with Masaru Sato, post-1965, Kurosawa tended to favor Sato's more flexible pupil, Shinichiro Ikebe.)
posted 01-17-2000 06:39 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
