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Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	With the CD coming out on Nov 2nd, I figuered you all would link info. Enjoy Music Composed by Eric Serra Label: Sony Classical My Heart Calling (Title Song) Performed by: Noa Track Listings: Track 01: Talk to him (2:31) Track 02: A sword in a field (:49) Track 03: Joan and the wolves (1:18) Track 04: Burying our children (1:33) Track 05: No amen (1:53) Track 06: At one with you (1:12) Track 07: Chinon (1:06) Track 08: Yolande (1:40) Track 09: The messenger of God (2:45) Track 10: Find him (1:21) Track 11: Secrets of a strange wind (4:54) Track 12: To the king of England (1:35) Track 13: Sent by God (1:00) Track 14: Procession to Orleans (1:33) Track 15: Recrossing the river (2:16) Track 16: The tourelles (4:12) Track 17: La Hire's lucky charm (1:51) Track 18: To Arms (5:57) Track 19: Armaturam dei (3:23) Track 20: The Miracle of Orleans (2:02) Track 21: Rex Coronatur (2:48) Track 22: Trial (3:37) Track 23: Anger and Confession (2:04) Track 24: Answer Me (1:15) Track 25: The Repentance (2:52) Track 26: Angelus in medio ignis (2:17) Track 27: My Heart Calling (4:20)—Performed by Noa Total Time: 59:24? (Aprox)--According to some people its 64min, can anyone confirm this? Cover Art: (So I don't yelled at again for postings copyrighted pictures, here's the link) www.sonymusic.com/images/selection/200/66537cvr.jpg Links: Soundtrack Site: www.sonyclassical.com/music/66537/ Music sounds good from the clips on Sony's site. --Crono/Kyp Writer/Director/Producer [This message has been edited by Crono/Kyp (edited 11-03-99).]
posted 11-01-1999 06:04 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	I know we discussed this already, Kyp... BUT FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW: Man... wow. From the clips I've heard, Eric Serra has done a terrific job. For everyone who despises Serra for his scores for GoldenEye and The Fifth Element, well - definitely give this a try. It's epic, it's completely orchestral - it's grandiose and well, I'm definitely getting it tomorrow. Get this, Eric implements some incredible choral work into the score... and believe me, it's powerful and very noteworthy. Definitely listen to this clip: http://www.sonymusic.com/clips/selection/30/066537/066537_01_26_30.ram It's track 26, titled "Angelus in medio ignis." Anyways, check it out. I'm utterly impressed. ~Jeron PS - Also be sure to check out the song from the film, "My Heart Calling..." a hauntingly beautiful song by Eric Serra, sung by "international singing sensation" Noa. I'd say it's more of a vocal that a song, though it does have words. It definitely sets the mood for the score. [This message has been edited by Jeron (edited 11-03-99).]
posted 11-01-1999 07:28 PM PT (US)

Jonathan unregistered	Yeah, I like that track "Angelus in medio ignus" (Angel in the midst of the flames) . . . I particularly like the version written 62 years ago by Carl Orff. Yes, that's right ladies and gentlemen, we have yet another composer copying CARMINA BURANA for his pseudo-Medieval choral music. When will this insanity stop? Why don't they just use the original instead of taking the time to plagiarize it? I just don't get it. (Other than that, I think the disc sounds great. I'll probably buy it, too.) Jonathan
posted 11-02-1999 08:21 AM PT (US)

ScoreLogueVance Oscar® Winner	Here is my long-winded adjective filled review of The Messenger. I saw a screening last week and was disappointed in the film...but loved the music! Too bad about the film as I am a big Luc Besson fan -------- The Messenger is somewhat of a departure for Eric Serra and one he handles deftly. It is unfortunate, however, that director Luc Besson was not up to a fully realized vision of the martyred heroine, Joan of Arc. 1999 has proven to be a year full of cinematic disappointments and yet some of these missteps have amazing compositions (The 13th Warrior, Instinct, Phantom Menace) So follows the formula for Besson's miscalculated mess of a film with visually stunning battle sequences but absolutely no substance that bears its weight on a completely miscast group of actors. The saving grace of the feature is Serra's bold and daring composition that runs a gamut of full bodied emotions and hard driven action. With The Messenger, Serra alternates between heavy handed and tragic war cues to delicately drawn and lush melodic themes bridged together by a fine orchestral performance and the best of Serra's electronic music in years. The Messenger prevails as a first class effort (musically) and draws a vivid musical backdrop for the French peasant girl turned saint. As The CD begins with a sweet young Joan confessing her "voices" at and early age, a breathy theme brings some heart with "Talk to Him." As Joan grows and becomes a legend in her own land (something Besson left out of his adaptation) she is then brought before the King-to-be Charles VII with a fine and slightly atonal "Messenger of God" and "Find Him." Serra brings more diverse sounds to this score than he has ever done in past projects. Large church bells signify the "voice of God" that Joan keeps hearing, and dramatic passages in the young girls travels are always accompanied by strong instrumentation whether it's electronic or orchestral. Serra brings sounds familiar from The Fifth Element, especially in the early battle sequences ("Secrets of a Strange Wind") and one might wish for only Besson's visuals with Serra's music and mute the actors' anachranisisms within the scenes (soldiers tend to enjoy saying "Whatever" in the 18th Century) and the less than stellar script. How Serra chose to end this overbearing film is the real triumph. Without too much sentiment, the composer goes for the darkly tragic ("Anger and Confession", "Answer me") as a ludicrous Dustin Hoffman acts as a surreally inappropriate Grand Inquisitor who more or less becomes Joan's conscious and self doubt about her calling. Serra adapts the famous O' Fortuna but much to the composer's credit as it is quite effective as Joan burns (actual cheering was heard in the auditorium). In keeping with his other scores Serra ends a very emotional and powerful score with a pop song. Israel singing star, Noa sings the final cue, "My Heart Calling." Overall, Serra all but saves the film with his magnificent and broad score that is very appropriate to the colorful life that Joan supposedly led. While Besson's film lacked any heart or care for the subject, it is truly Serra's finest hour. Here's hoping he has more to work with next time. But to Besson's credit, he did allow Serra the creative freedom he needed.
posted 11-02-1999 12:09 PM PT (US)

Dan Brecher Oscar® Winner	The begining of Track 26 reminds me of that GREAT cue from Elfman's Batman, when Bats dries Vicky through the forrest (SFT, little help, whats the title of that cue?). Sounds great, will certianly get this on import. Dan (UK) PS: The movie sucks? Nooooooo [This message has been edited by Dan Brecher (edited 11-03-99).]
posted 11-03-1999 06:43 AM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	Because of Jeron and ScoreLouge Vance, I bought the cd and am listening to it now. Track 16 The Tourelles is playing right, right now and it is powerful. Has a very slow and constant beat, almost as if danger is approaching you. Thus far I'm glad I got it. Might do a review of it if I have time and you guys don't beat me to it. Scott BTW: Thus far it seems that all the tracks are fused together. In other words there are no breaks between the cues. THAT I don't like too much. Hold, just noticed a break . Okay, so there are SOME breaks and others cues run into each other. Interesting. [This message has been edited by Scott (edited 11-03-99).]
posted 11-03-1999 07:37 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	Hey Scott- I'm glad to hear you bought the score. I was disappointed when CastorTroy told me #Soundtracks voted it the most uninteresting score this year. I really don't agree - I fully agree with Vance's comments on the score. It's one notch above the rest Serra has done, and his manipulation of orchestra and fusion of electronics make this a very interesting listen. It's a very thought provoking score. Castor told me he didn't recognize any real themes. Personally, I think the score is pouring with themes - they are just subtle and well fused into the tapestry Eric has created. On a more serious note, not to offend ANYONE - I think this is a score suited for mature listeners, not just those looking for themes that are as easy to listen to as Superman or Star Wars... or the Mummy for that matter. ~Jeron
posted 11-03-1999 12:58 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	I just opened this soundtrack and am listening to it now. It has some stirring moments, that's for sure. I am on track 16 as I type this - I can only wonder if anyone's ever heard Serra's The Professional (aka Leon)? I find that score remains Serra's best. I was wondering if this Messenger score would match or perhaps even beat up on The Professional, but it hasn't. This one's still very interesting - to me, I hear Serra trying something new in his scoring technique. He's a fun composer to follow through the years.... PeterK NP - "The Messenger" by Eric Serra
posted 11-03-1999 06:59 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	I'm still waiting to see the movie first. Nice to see you again PeterK. Hope your well. --Crono/Kyp Writer/Director/Producer [This message has been edited by Crono/Kyp (edited 11-03-99).]
posted 11-03-1999 07:06 PM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	Jeron, the last statement you made about mature listeners: You took the words right out of my mouth. Scott
posted 11-04-1999 07:42 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	Is it a complex score? That why you guys say that? --Crono/Kyp Writer/Director/Producer
posted 11-04-1999 07:51 AM PT (US)

Audacity Oscar® Winner	This is an awesome score, thanks to all you guys who gave it good reviews and for Jeron who twisted my arm to purchase it. Audacity
posted 11-04-1999 09:52 AM PT (US)

Hasta Oscar® Winner	Well this is definitely an old thread, thought I'd comment as I just got the score. I'm baffeled at all of the positive comments here, this score simply isn't very good. I like some of Serra's work (The Fifth Element was unique and fun), but this is simply unfufilled potential. It's slow, uninteresting, bland, and even irritating at times. The orchestrations are poor, the themes aren't very inspired, and the song at the end is awful. The score isn't without it's moments, but overall I'd be hesitent to give it more than /**... This certainly isn't the best to show off Serra's talent, but rather the lack there of. Mature listeners? Eric Serra? (laughs) NP: Fly Away Home (Isham)... Now this* is a good score.
posted 11-26-2001 10:13 AM PT (US)

HadrianD Oscar® Winner	I had forgotten the reason why I bought the CD in the first place. THough I should have gotten it used though. Some great, out of the ordinary Serra, choral passages and nothing much to listen too. Like the end song but that's pretty much it. The Carmina Burana rip off is very evident, but I guess, and obligatory when it comes to the movie. Try getting the good cues on Morpheus or something because you won't need the other stuff.
posted 11-26-2001 02:12 PM PT (US)

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