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    Topic:   Why do we listen to film music?

     Norman McCay
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    I feel like this is the first time I have actually expressed my reasons for listening (although you don't really need one), but I have often wondered if others listened to film music for the same reasons that I do. So here it goes.

    Simple reason? It's just plain good.

    The psychological/philosophical reason? To feel and experience sensations that I would not ordinarily feel during an average person's life, and that would be mine. What do I mean by that? Here are some examples. How of us actually go into war and fight thousands and thousands of medieval Brits to obtain our freedom? How of us can yield the lightsaber and feel the Force flowing through us? How many of us can wear a cape and be faster than a speeding bullet? How many of us have had a Hollywood love story? And how of us actually faced a dinosaur? I think most of you understand my point. Now I am not saying that none of us ever will go through some of those things (if anyone can fly and possess the Force, PLEASE get a good Superman movie made!! Oh yeah, and save the world while you're at it...), but for people like me, chances are slim to none.

    I can cry, laugh, get angry, become excited, be in love, be inspired, and basically feel what it's like (to the nearest authenticty) to be a character in a fantasy world. In a sense, film music brings to me the emotions that so many people and particularly cynics in society are devoid of. I feel extremely enlightened. The music takes away all my sorrows and worries and I become immersed in that musical state of mind.

    I love film music. I love it to death. I have even gone so far to arrange a playing of my collection at my own funeral (no I am not dying). Call it obsession or whatever you wish. But I love film music.

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    posted 09-19-1999 12:02 PM PT (US)     

     SFT
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    I agree completely. Filmmusic is a truly uniqe thing and a completely absorbing experience...

    At my funeral I wan´t to have "The Grand Finale" from Edward Scissorhands played... How morbid.

    SFT

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    posted 09-19-1999 12:18 PM PT (US)     

     Aaron R. Brown
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    I like to listen to film music because I like classical concert music. Another reason is that the film music of today will be tommorrow's classical music! Film music cover the full scale of human emotions, unlike a lot of pop music.

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    posted 09-19-1999 12:58 PM PT (US)     

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    I listen to them because I really don't like anything else. For some reason I just so, I can't explain it.

    --Crono/Kyp
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    posted 09-19-1999 03:03 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    I'm like Crono - I just can't explain my undying love for this music. I rarely listen to anything other than a film score - nothing appeals to my emotions the way film music does.

    ~Jeron

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    posted 09-19-1999 05:20 PM PT (US)     

     James
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    I'd like to explain why I listen to film music, but if I tried, it would just seem like a cut-and-paste of Norman's explanation. He expounded it so precisely that I can't think of anything to add.

    James

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    posted 09-19-1999 06:50 PM PT (US)     

     Jonathan
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    I'm going to go out on a limb here, and possibly stir up some controversy. But, after all, what good is a message board without a little controversy every so often?

    What you are all responding to is the unique ability of music to touch emotions inside that no other medium has the power to evoke. It is not, however, unique to film music. It is at the core of all western art music (what we normally call "classical music"). The feeling you get when you hear those opening strains of STAR WARS or BATMAN or STAR TREK:TMP is the same feeling that a great Beethoven or Mahler symphony can evoke.

    What is the difference then? (Here comes the controversial part . . .) The difference is that film music is slightly more accessible, more immediate, for two reasons.

    First, you have a set of visual images (is that redundant?) to go with the music. When you respond to the theme from STAR WARS, you are not just responding to the music, but also to the grandeur of the whole 8 or 9 hour STAR WARS movie experience. The music conjures those feelings.

    You may say, Yes, but sometimes I buy a score by Jerry Goldsmith or John Williams or Danny Elfman before I have even seen the movie, yet I still love it. That is because of the second reason, which is that film composers consciously write in a more listenable, visceral style, with less of the long term development and musical architecture that characterizes standard classical music.

    That is the reason that many of you may have tried to listen to a classical piece, only to be disappointed that you didn't "feel" the same reaction. On the surface, the two styles seem to be similar, and indeed, they are. Film music is an outgrowth of the dramatic, romantic music that was written for most of the operas of the nineteenth century. However, those pieces take a little more understanding and patience to reveal their treasures.

    Whereas, the appeal of movie music is much more apparent on the surface, after just one listening. If it sounds like I'm saying that film music is a little shallower than standard classical music, I guess I am. But I don't intend that to be the insult that it sounds like.

    My point is that good music is good music -- film music is tied to the movie that spawned it (consciously or not) and it must reflect those emotions. Concert music (or "classical music" if you prefer) is entirely self-contained, requiring the listener to participate a little more actively in its development.

    As for me, I love both.

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    posted 09-19-1999 08:55 PM PT (US)     

     S Smith
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    Because ALMOST everything else out there is a bunch of crap. That's an over-simplification.

    I agree with Jonathan. Film music is accessible. To put it very simply: it's a every-man's classical music.


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    posted 09-19-1999 11:21 PM PT (US)     

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    I guess I want to respond somewhat to what Jonathan said in his post. I listen to both classical and movie music. And can say that I get the same feelings from both. There is just somthing about the sound of a room full of insturments working together that makes me smile. I do agree with you though that there is a certin amount of attachment to music do to visual images. But I guarntee you if you go out and pick up a copy of Holst's, "The Planet Suites," and listen to the very first track, "Mars, the bringer of war," it will knock your socks off and you will be charged up. And with this CD I had no preconcieved(SP) ideas or images when I bought it.

    Plus it doesn't hurt that alot of these classical CDs can be purchased for around 3 to 6 dollars and are usually 65+ minutes of music.

    dave

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    posted 09-19-1999 11:55 PM PT (US)     

     Sean Bires
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    I agree with most of the ideas and opinions, and I just wanted to throw in something too...

    I listen to it because I just find it... so... brilliant. It must take tons of talent and skill to command such an intimidatingly vast amount of instruments, and make it translate emotions. People complain about how "Gattaca" had almost no instruments other than strings. Screw that, for lack of a better word. That soundtrack was great because it displayed the emotions of the film so powerfully.

    Also, the soundtrack must translate the atmosphere and setting of the film. Soundtracks like "Sphere", "Blade Runner", "Dark City", and "Ghost in the Shell" did this perfectly and skillfully.

    This is also why the only, well, "band-that-appeals-to-a-lot-of-teens" band I listen to is Nine Inch Nails. I turn on the radio, and hear an interview where the band, "Smashmouth", mentioned they created their latest album in one week. ONE WEEK??? Really. Smashmouth can kiss the movie-orchestra's ass. Such unoriginal garbage compared to a film score...

    [This message has been edited by Sean Bires (edited 09-22-99).]

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    posted 09-20-1999 07:26 AM PT (US)     

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    I listen to film music for a few reasons. One - I just love the music. The orchestra, the emotion, the excitement, there's really no other music out there that's as broad as soundtrack music is, except maybe classical. And some soundtracks I love to listen to to relive the movie. Although I absolutely love the Star Wars Trilogy music for the music alone, there is also the visuals which just stick in your head. Like playing the movie back. I'm sure we could all go on and on about it, so I'll just leave here.

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    posted 09-20-1999 07:58 AM PT (US)     

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    Jonathan brought up a very good point, and so now I will bring in the next segment in my discussion....

    Yes, it's true that film music is easily accessible when compared to classical music. But the funny thing is, the only reason that classical music is less appealing to me is because of its length, and with impatient folks like me, it's quite difficult to sit through the whole passage waiting for some emotional cue. It's unfortunate that I have little patience....but that's me in general anyway.

    One of the genres that I still listen to is contemporary jazz. I think we have brought this up before, so I won't go into details about it. But musicians like Dave Koz, Jonathan Butler, Pat Metheny, David Foster, and great legends like John Coltrane and David Sanborn have stirred up this genre of jazz that are short and sweet. This kind of music doesn't have to provoke some pre-set image in my mind, as I piece my own images to Ronny Jordan's "Tinseltown" or Pat Metheny's "Last Train Home."

    One of the best scores that I have ever heard is Toys, by Hans Zimmer (thanks Jeron). I heard the score through Zimmer's Follow Your Dreams collection. However, to this date, I have yet to ever see the movie. Why? Because I didn't want the movie to ruin whatever impression that I have set for the music already. Call it ignorance, but when I hear the score to Toys, I think about a lot of things that I can relate to my own life in general, various aspects of real life, and these kinds of scores compile into "the score" to my life. Kind of like a soundtrack for myself. If "I" were to have a soundtrack, scores like Toys would be "me." This is the reason why I prefer anything that's labeled a "soundtrack/original score." I know what the movie Toys is about, and I know that I might even like the music better after watching the movie, but I don't want to risk of "putting an image" (what film music is SUPPOSED to do, I guess) to Toys because I fear of losing my first impression and my emotional attachment to it. I don't know if anyone understands this, so I will just leave it up for everyone's own interpretation.

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    posted 09-20-1999 09:19 AM PT (US)     

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    While I agree with most of what has been said, it seems to me that some of us are behaving like the folks out there in regards to anything other than film music or classical. I mean rock, pop, hipp hop or whatever, is not automatecally bad or junk, just because I might not like it. I listen to rock, pop, alternative once in a while, although listening to soundtrack scores defentely takes up most of my time, but I don't discount anyone liking rap or what have you.
    I mean, if we label everything besides film music as junk we are doing the same thing so many of us have had to endure, people telling us listening to film music is crazy and a waste of time, just because they did not like it or, more oftern than not, did not understand it.
    I love movie music, I live for it, if someone else doesn't like it, well...they're loss. I hate rap, if someone likes it, oh well...perhaps my loss ( I doubt that though).
    Anyway I'm rambling here, one more thing though.
    I dissagree that to listen to film music always will create memories of the picture. I have listened to Star Wars of ET countless times. Sometimes I allow scenes from the movie to invade my mind and create pleasurable memories. More often than not however, my imagination takes a complete other direction and images are created that are sometimes memory and oftne pure fantasy. I guess I create my own movies in my head through film music, what a rush.
    And if it weren't for film music and star wars in paritcular (thank you John Williams) I would have never grown to love classical music.
    So, I guess that's why I listen to and collect soundtracks.
    Sorry this was so darn long

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    posted 09-20-1999 12:03 PM PT (US)     

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    I listen to score for the same reason I listen to everything else: it appeals to my ear. Sometimes it's because I really like the movie that it's from, other times it's because certain themes help me relieve stress or get my emotions reved.

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    posted 09-20-1999 08:37 PM PT (US)     

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    Any music that can stir emotion inside of you with a few simple notes without the aid of words or lyrics is pretty special. That's what makes film music great, how much can be accomplished without words. The true art of music is making the listener feel the music...and the best music does exactly that.

    How many people who downloaded duel of the fates in mp3 format don't remember hearing that and feeling the hairs raise on the back of your necks just a little because of it's sheer intensity. Forget heavy-metal, give me strings! Give me choir!

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