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SFT Oscar® Winner	I´ve been hearing from people on this messageboard and other places on the web, that the director behind "The Frighteners" is filming a new movie called "Lord of the Rings." Naturally, this project is of great interest to me, because there has been alot of talk about Danny Elfman scoring it Can anyone please tell me what "Lord of the Rings" is? A fairytale or what? Is it based on a book? Thanks SFT NP: The Omen Complete Score (Jerry Goldsmith)
posted 09-04-1999 04:14 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	Hey there, Me, ever the info guy , has come to the rescue. The "Lord of the Rings" is a well known book series by author J.R.R. Tolkien, who also wrote "The Hobbit." The film, set to launch in 2000, is directed by Peter Jackson (The Frighteners ) As to who is scoring the film, that is still under debate. It could really be anyone. Since it's a fantasy film, I would guess Goldsmith or Horner to score it, but you never, Elman could do it, I just hope, if he does it, Its like "Good Will Hunting." --Crono/Kyp Writer/Director/Producer [This message has been edited by Crono/Kyp (edited 09-04-99).]
posted 09-04-1999 09:31 AM PT (US)

SFT Oscar® Winner	Thanks... But, what is the story of the film? SFT
posted 09-04-1999 09:40 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	Get the book! It's awesome.
posted 09-04-1999 09:42 AM PT (US)

Captain Howdy Oscar® Winner	SFT: Go to this web page: http://godzilla.eecs.berkeley.edu/rolozo/ Its all about Tolkein and his novels. It has hundreds of artworks that appeared in different versions of his books so you can get a feel of the kinds of places and events theyll have to recreate in the movie. For example, check out this artwork from Lord of the Rings and just imagine how incredible it will look on the big screen with real locations and special effects (by the way, this its costing just a tad under what Titanic costed, so it will be the second most expensive movie ever made) : http://godzilla.eecs.berkeley.edu/rolozo/images_nasmith/gondolin.jpg I think Elfman could come up with a great epic fantasy score...like a combination of Batman, Edward Scissorhands and Black Beauty. Personally though, I would like to see Poledouris score it and return to his glory days of Conan and Flesh & Blood. Oh well, guess we'll just have to wait and seee. NP: High Road to China (****.5/5)
posted 09-04-1999 10:22 AM PT (US)

SFT Oscar® Winner	If the movie is going to be anything like the artwork on that site (thanks Captain Howdy) I have a feeling that it is going to be a magnificent film. Just think of it! Of course, without a good script, even the best special effects won´t do any good. But I have a feeling that it will be Is the book really as good as everybody says it is? I REALLY, REALLY hope that Danny will score it. It would be terrefic! SFT
posted 09-04-1999 11:10 AM PT (US)

Dan Brecher Oscar® Winner	SFT, Dude, READ THE LORD OF THE RINGS TRILOGY (3 stories together quite possible making a bigger book then the bible)!!! The score for the films REALLY needs to be something special... Dan (UK)
posted 09-04-1999 12:55 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	Dan's right. The novels are great, worthy of film production. Now, if only they would take the 4 Dragonlance Chronicle books and make them info movies. Or is that a job for me? --Crono/Kyp Writer/Director/Producer NP: Deep Blue Sea: Trevor Rabin (RATING PENDING)
posted 09-04-1999 02:41 PM PT (US)

Lancelot Oscar® Winner	Only if you leave the fourth one out.
posted 09-04-1999 03:48 PM PT (US)

pietari Oscar® Winner	I´m sure I read somewhere (FSM message board?), that Jackson has said that Elfman won´t be scoring this film, because his style is wrong or something (understandable). Not too sure if this is a fact or rumour. Personally I hope Trevor Jones would score this, he´s absolutely perfect for this here
posted 09-04-1999 06:09 PM PT (US)

S Smith unregistered	Ooh. Trevor Jones is a good idea. I loved "Merlin."
posted 09-04-1999 07:45 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	I third that! Great idea. It would give him the opporunity to apply his merlin/gulliver's travels/mighty experience to the big budget, big screen, big story type movie. What a canvas to paint on! Jeron
posted 09-04-1999 11:23 PM PT (US)

SFT Oscar® Winner	pietari, I´m not sure where you got that piece of info, but so far, Jackson has been saiying that he´d really love working with Danny again on LOTR...I don´t really see how his style could be wrong for this movie. I mean, when you see what he did with movies like Batman and Edward Scissorhands it should be obvious to anyone that he is the perfect choice. Just think about it: The beautyfull, yet darkly gothic music from Edward Scissorhands and Nightbreed, plus the power and energetic drive of Batman and Black Beauty. How could anyone NOT wan´t Elfman to score it??? From what I have come to learn about J.J.R. Tolkiens books, they are highly original and imaginative adventure/farytales. I would really hate to see it ruined by just another "epic" score from Goldsmith, Horner or Williams. LOTR needs sometihng different. Not just because they are special stories, but also becuase it is about time we got something new from this peticualar genre...and I am sure Eflman can provide it. That being said, I really think Jones would be a good idea too. And maybe Poledouris...I just hope the job does´nt go to Michael Kamen or Zimmer. SFT [This message has been edited by SFT (edited 09-05-99).]
posted 09-05-1999 01:47 AM PT (US)

pietari Oscar® Winner	I´m quite sure that I got the Elfman info from Aint-it-cool-news. They are usually reliable on these matters. Sure, Elfman would be good ih he was still composing in the early 90´s style, but seeing as he isn´t, I can understand where Jackson is coming from. I do agree that Kamen would be a bad choice [This message has been edited by pietari (edited 09-05-99).]
posted 09-05-1999 02:20 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	I still say Trevor Jones!! and I beg your pardon, another "epic" score by Goldsmith or Williams would be spectacular. SFT, I respect your love for Elfman's music. I think it's great he has a fan as dedicated as you. Don't get me wrong, I just bought Sommersby - great score. I've got about 15 of his cds, so it's not like he's a "bad composer" in my eyes. Anyways, I don't want to get into any kind of debate - though as much as you demand respect for your Elfman liking (and for his music), I think it was a bit out of bad taste to criticize Goldsmith or Williams. We'd be extremely lucky if they scored it. Any film score fan knows that. Peace out, Jeron
posted 09-05-1999 01:40 PM PT (US)

robin4 Oscar® Winner	Wow guys, I'm sick for a couple days and I miss all of this! LOTR is one project that I have been waiting for ever since I read the book, and I have been wondering who will score it. My choices would be: 1. Horner 2. Poledouris 3. Goldsmith Now, I usually wouldn't promote Horner, but when I read the books all that I could listen to was Willow, a perfect fit. So I would only want him to score it if it was to that calliber. Poledouris, of course would be awesome if it was like Conan and Goldsmith could make a 13th Warrior-like score. I just hope that whoever does it makes it huge and beautiful. Here's hoping. P.S. These books are probably my favorites. They are awesome. Anyone who hasn't read them should run out and get them then lock themselves up for a couple of days and read them. They are that good. P.P.S. Oh yeah, I agree, Kamen and especially Zimmer would not be right. But I would also have to say that Elfman wouldn't be the best becuase he hasn't really done something of this scope. Just watch me eat my words when I listen to Sleepy Hollow. [This message has been edited by robin4 (edited 09-05-99).]
posted 09-05-1999 05:12 PM PT (US)

S Smith unregistered	All I can say is, they'd better have a really good screen play, really good acting, and a really good score. And it should go beyond good. It should be great. The "Lord of the Rings" cycle is/can be an extremely profound story. It should transcend all of the nonsense currently being put out. "LOTR" is deep and goes way beyond the story itself. Many people call it an religious allegory, much like C.S. Lewis' "Chronicles of Narnia." What I'm getting at is, everything about this movie has to be special. My bet is that there is a no-name composer out there that could truly do an awesome score for this film, if only given a chance.
posted 09-05-1999 11:23 PM PT (US)

pietari Oscar® Winner	I think Jackson and co. are going all out on this one, most of the casting has been done with some great results (Ian Mc Kellen etc.) If you want more updates on the films you should check out Aint-It-Cool-News. It seems like they are getting info on this daily. As of a no-name composer, what about Harald Kloser? (composer of the 13th Floor).Given the chance I think he could come up with something special
posted 09-05-1999 11:29 PM PT (US)

SFT Oscar® Winner	Jeron, If I offended anyone in my previous post, I apologize. I know it sometimes seems like I don´t care for any other composer(s) than Elfman, but that is really not the case. I love Goldsmith and Williams work but not what they have come up with recently. That´s all. I mean, they just are´nt as good as they were 20-25 years ago. And you´re right, we should´nt get into a debate about it; but just to set the record straight: Goldsmith and Williams are superb composers. I just don´t think either of them should score Lord Of The Rings. SFT NP: The Game, Howard Shore [This message has been edited by SFT (edited 09-06-99).]
posted 09-06-1999 03:04 AM PT (US)

Dan Brecher Oscar® Winner	Ooooh now Trevor Jones, there's a thought! I like the sound of that too, and also yes, Goldsmith or Williams! Dan (UK) NP: The Horse Whisperer -- Thomas Newman (***/***)
posted 09-06-1999 08:05 AM PT (US)

Scorro Oscar® Winner	Obviously there is a lot of talent out there that could do justice to LOTR. Recently it's occured to me that there are just more good composers these days than there are good movies to compose for. I'm sure LOTR would be regarded as a plum assignment. Composers I would like to be seen given the job: 1)Poledouris: would produce an awesome score. 2)Debney: plenty of capability to score an epic. 3)Davis: Warriors Of Virtue was great!
posted 09-06-1999 10:23 AM PT (US)

Aaron Collins Oscar® Winner	Isn't there cartoon movies for the Lord of the Rings? I know there are movies for the Hobbit, but I believe there are some for LOTR too. Anyone know? And if there is, who scored those? Who would I like to score this movie? John Debney- he needs a big movie thrown at him, the big movies he does get don't have a huge canvas where Debney can get really creative. He takes some mediocre movies and gives them awesome scores. John Williams- I would love to see him get this movie, but it most likely will not happen. He has a lot of big movies coming up that will take some time. Poledouris- He would do great on this movie. His scores are very ritualistic and this movie needs a ritualistic score. Goldsmith- If he does score it, I hope he puts a lot of depth in it, opposed to 13th Warrior or Mummy. He can create an awesome score. Mancina- I say why not! He has never had a movie similar to this. I would love to see what he could do with it. He is a drummer, so he can probably come up with some great ritualistic beats. Aaron Collins NP: Warriors of the Silver Screen *****
posted 09-08-1999 09:18 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	Yup, there was a 1978 cartoon (if I recall correctly). I remember being mesmerized by the film as a kid - and yes, the score is great too. Don't jump back and run when I told you who scored it, but it was Leonard Rosenmen. Intrada released this score, and it has a great theme and very epic feel (as it should. It DOES resemble his theme and style for Star Trek IV, which no matter how many say it's a horrible score, I find it quite enjoyable. Check out all the details on this version of the film at IMDB. Here's the link: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0077869 ~Jeron [This message has been edited by Jeron (edited 09-08-99).]
posted 09-08-1999 01:33 PM PT (US)

MWRuger Oscar® Winner	I hate to rain on anyone's parade but I would bet money that it will be a talented unknown who will do the scoring. Why? (You ask. You know you will) Well, because whoever does it is committing to a three picture deal that will tie them up for a while. That is why they are using as few big name actors as possible. The shoot alone is scheduled for three years! Budget. The last budget I saw was like 75 million for all three pics. There is no way they can afford Williams or Goldsmith or Horner. It will be someone who we would rate as promising because he did a few scores that were pretty good. Somebody like John Ottman (But it won't be him becuase his best bud is doing X-Men.
posted 09-26-1999 09:16 PM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	All right, the bad speller is back , first off, the LOTR is an amazing novel, read it several times. The animated version, which covered the first and half of the second book, kinda bombed at the box office. It was critizised by many (incl. yours truly) for overusing the rotoscoping technique. The director was Ralph Bakchi (I know misspelled). The score was very good indeed. SFT, you are so loyal it reminds me of the morons who still support Clinton. Ohh Scott, how could you... Anyway, my choices would be... Williams (surprise, surprise) Goldsmith (what else is new) Jones Elfman (just for you SFT) who else...let's see...hmm...how about McNeely (did a great job of Shadows? SFT, about the changing styles of Goldsmith and Williams. These two are so good, they could change their style in a scond and create a score for this movie that would kick butt. I by the way disagree that they are not as good as they used to be. My hunch about the project, I doubt it will be any worthy of the book. In fact I have my reservations that it will be any good at all. The facts surrounding this film disturb me to no ends. Before anyone says,"well the studio is supporting it big time", really, what do these burocrats know... Again, those are just my wacko opinions... Yours truly, Mr. I can't spell for... Scotty
posted 09-27-1999 07:49 AM PT (US)

Captain Howdy Oscar® Winner	MWRuger: I think you have your facts a little mixed up. The budget of the first movie alone is $190 million, the second most expensive movie ever made. Combined budget of all the pictures has been estimated by producers and such working on the movie as around $650 Million. I'm sure they can afford pretty much any composer working today. Hey, maybe the'll hire EVERY composer working today....that would make and interesting score. NP: Bruce Broughton: Double Feature *****/5
posted 09-27-1999 09:26 AM PT (US)

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