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      Laurence of Arabia vs. Dr. Zhivago (Maurice Jarre)

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    Topic:   Laurence of Arabia vs. Dr. Zhivago (Maurice Jarre)

     Ted
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    First off, let me say that I'm young and have just seen probably the two most spectacular films ever created (go David Lean.) Which score do you think is better?

    Laurence of Arabia, in my opinion, has a much better theme than Zhivago. However, Zhivago has many more different tracks, all of which are fantastic.

    Which, in your opinions, is a better score?

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    posted 04-19-1999 04:35 PM PT (US)     

     Hector J. Guzman
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    I'm not going to say which is better, but I love the two of them, I recently bought a CD called "Lean by Jarre" from a concert I saw a long time ago on PBS with Mr. Jarre conducting the Royal Philharmonic, some of the best music written for the cinema!

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    posted 04-19-1999 06:21 PM PT (US)     

     Scott
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    A tough one no doubt but I would go with Arabia since the walz in Zhivago is a little too Europeon for me.

    Scott

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    posted 01-06-2000 02:25 PM PT (US)     

     James
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    I'm going to have to go with Doc Zhivago, simply because it gets inside me more tha Lawrence. I love both scores, no doubt, and Lawrence is loaded with awe-inspiring moments but my favorite genre is romance, and Zhivago simply takes romantic music to new heights (at least it did at the time).

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    posted 01-06-2000 08:10 PM PT (US)     

     Audacity
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    I'm with Scott, I think Lawrence of Arabia is the better of the two. I don't own Doc Zhivago yet though.

    Audacity

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    posted 01-07-2000 04:42 AM PT (US)     

     Marc Flake
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    These were my first two soundtrack buys. Actually, my mother had bought Dr. Zhivago, so it was hers.

    They are really two different genres. Epic romance and epic adventure. My loyalty to each could be swayed by how I felt at the time I cast my vote.

    Thinking back though, I'd have to say the Zhivago is the better of the two. There is a greater use of leit motif, with a greater variety of themes woven throughout the score.

    Marc

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    posted 01-07-2000 11:25 AM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    Tough question!

    I love both scores so much but I think I've got to go with Lawrence as edging out Zhivago. Zhivago has the more elaborate writing, but Lawrence means EPIC to me. Both films use their themes a bit too much but that isn't Jarre's fault. He had time constraints on Lawrence and insistent producers on Zhivago. Jarre won Oscars for both of these scores but as Zhivago became the biggest selling soundtrack at that time, Jarre's reputation as a serious composer declined--he was seen as a tunesmith. Producers used Zhivago's success to pressure other composers to write similar scores that could double as score and record seller.

    I think these are both great films as well and it's encouraging to know that someone young can still find them great.

    [This message has been edited by Lou Goldberg (edited 29 January 2000).]

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    posted 01-29-2000 12:45 AM PT (US)     

     MWRuger
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    To me they are very different and hard to choose a Best. Lawrence stirs the soul, while Zhivago stirs the heart. Lawrence is an epic story whereas Zhivago is a personal story set against an epic backdrop. Having said that I guess I go with Lawrence because I make a better connection with it.

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    posted 01-29-2000 02:10 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    LAWRENCE (not "Laurence") is probably the more interesting of the two scores. One problem I have with ZHIVAGO is the rather syrupy nature of "Lara's Theme," as played over and over again -- Jarre had written numerous different themes before Lean seized on "Lara" and then deployed it throughout the picture.

    On the other hand, in Jarre's self-conducted JARRE BY JARRE in 1987, he proffered a really lovely arrangement of "Lara's Theme" that cleared up some of my irritation with it. (Although my favorite cues on JARRE BY JARRE were certainly from PARIS IS BURNING and VILLA RIDES.)

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    posted 01-29-2000 03:16 PM PT (US)     

     Rang
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    LAWRENCE OF ARABIA easily. That's one great score. I do like "Lara's Theme" from ZHIVAGO, but that is it. The rest of the score just doesn't connect to me at all.

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    posted 01-29-2000 11:27 PM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    Don't hate me for this Rang........

    But my favorite parts of the Zhivago score aren't Lara's Theme but themes like Revolution and Tonya's Arrival at V.

    I'm impressed with the Lawrence=Soul and Zhivago=Heart analogies. I think the point of Zhivago is that real revolutionary action isn't social and political it's when you break the rules putting personal happiness before social convention. I think Lawrence, which begins with Lawrence's death and ends with Lawrence's dismissal, is a warning to the ego that having success does not mean being omnipotent. One is about the heart, the other about the soul--that people can pick this out in the music is just another confirmation of Jarre's talent.

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    posted 01-30-2000 03:11 AM PT (US)     

     Cole
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    You really cant compare these two scores - but then everyone has allready said that. I tend to be more of an introvert and so I feel drawn more towards Zhivago rather than the outgoing music of Lawrence. Each score is an example of film score perfection in the time in which they were done. it is such a tough call. Lara's them - Lawrence? What are you going to do, snuggle up by the fire or drive through the city streets at dangerous speeds? That is the only way to decide which one is better.

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    posted 01-30-2000 11:26 AM PT (US)     

     Rang
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    Lou, don't hate me either. My problem with ZHIVAGO is that some pieces sound like improvisational noise, such as the overbearing "Overture." I actually don't own the soundtrack, so maybe I'll check the film out again sometime rethink my opinions. They can always change.

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